H00k Almost Shitz Brix: One More LOS First, Girlz 2018

[NorCaliwood]

Believe it or not,,, I really liked the Cannon Power Shot better than the Rebel. It was soooo much easier to use,, and had good quality pics. Even the Power Shot's macro seemed better to me. Stupid me,, I use to carry my camera around while it was still attached to the tripod. Which caused the plastic around the bolt hole to crack and fell apart. But when I looked at prices I thought that the Rebel wood be an upgrade? And prices of the Power Shot were close to the Rebel.

DUH... Live, learn,,,, Die and forget it all anyway.

Yea those COBs were the way people in Malawi Africa use to store and transport,, even used as an amount, when selling their product.

The closest I've been to smoking a COB was smoking a true Spliff from Jamaica. It was rolled in a corn husk and tied together with the husk strings. Wasn't aged in it. But sure made the smoke smooth and sweet.


GL and Keepem Green

 

[TheFertilizer]

Hey dr. h00k saw your Panama x Malawi in the Plant of the Month thread, nice work!

I was wondering though, how you think it stacked up yield wise versus other strains you grew?

When I ran it, I wasn't really impressed with the yield, but I think it was something I did really, since ACE listed it as its most heavy yielder. What do you think?

 

[Neiko]

Hey dr. h00k saw your Panama x Malawi in the Plant of the Month thread, nice work!

I was wondering though, how you think it stacked up yield wise versus other strains you grew?

When I ran it, I wasn't really impressed with the yield, but I think it was something I did really, since ACE listed it as its most heavy yielder. What do you think?

I ran the other version, the Malawi x Panama and it yielded excellent. Both of those strains yield really well so maybe it was an environmental thing for ya?

 

[dr.h00k]

...Thanks Fert...it was an average yielder for me...but, definitely the potential is there...I let her do her thing, had I topped her or put her in a bigger pot(she was in a 7), I think I could have improved yield...she could possibly be a candidate for an encore performance next spring, but not sure quite yet...just so many damn strains!......cheerz...h00k......

 

[TheFertilizer]

I ran the other version, the Malawi x Panama and it yielded excellent. Both of those strains yield really well so maybe it was an environmental thing for ya?

Yeah I am fairly confident it was something I did. I tried my own soil mix and a poorly thought out scrog. I wanted to try the Malawi x Panama too but ended up with the PM cause they said it was such a high yielder, plus I liked the look of the bud on their site.

...Thanks Fert...it was an average yielder for me...but, definitely the potential is there...I let her do her thing, had I topped her or put her in a bigger pot(she was in a 7), I think I could have improved yield...she could possibly be a candidate for an encore performance next spring, but not sure quite yet...just so many damn strains!......cheerz...h00k......

Yeah I know what you mean, the Panama x Malawi was the first strain I grew that I paid good money for and that was from a reputable breeder, so I was kind of hoping it to serve as a test because it was supposed to be such a high yielder, I knew if I didn't yield more off it than I usually do then it's probably something I'm doing and not the genetics

So yeah was just wondering how it stacked up for you against other strains, thinking maybe ace was embellishing a little on the yields. Any strains have you strains rent yield better with similar grow conditions?

Still it was pretty fantastic smoke, I ran two cycles of it back to back it was so good. I wish I had the patience to cob. Maybe if I wasn't yielding so crummy each cycle. I just need to move to a better place where I can run a grow light that's not a glorified night-light lol

 

[dr.h00k]

Ha!...just realized, re- reading, that I made a mistake...it was grown in a 15 gal., even so, given some topping/training and a dialed in environment, could surely double output...I have enuff' light, but I can struggle at times to keep environment stable due to temp/RH swings, without breaking the bank...

The PE and Caramelo are good yielders this year, and last year Purple Mexican was a standout...I prefer a # of strains to reach a quota I have in my mind(2#'s), rather than some huge plants...I'll get just over 40 zips this season including the 3 auto's I started the season with...next run, I think I'll be downsizing a tad, and going with 2 or 3 auto's to start and only 6 photo's instead of the usual 9...might have to bump my game up a notch to reach my mark...but that's part of the fun......cheerz...h00k......

 

[TheFertilizer]

Ha!...just realized, re- reading, that I made a mistake...it was grown in a 15 gal., even so, given some topping/training and a dialed in environment, could surely double output...I have enuff' light, but I can struggle at times to keep environment stable due to temp/RH swings, without breaking the bank...

The PE and Caramelo are good yielders this year, and last year Purple Mexican was a standout...I prefer a # of strains to reach a quota I have in my mind(2#'s), rather than some huge plants...I'll get just over 40 zips this season including the 3 auto's I started the season with...next run, I think I'll be downsizing a tad, and going with 2 or 3 auto's to start and only 6 photo's instead of the usual 9...might have to bump my game up a notch to reach my mark...but that's part of the fun......cheerz...h00k......

Yeah see with my setup I haven't even taken more than 6 out of a 4x4 tent. Sucks, just not enough light, too much electricity used for cooling The Panama x Malawi I only got like 4 ounces off of a 5 pot 5gal scrog. Pretty piss poor performance

 

[dr.h00k]

Yeah see with my setup I haven't even taken more than 6 out of a 4x4 tent. Sucks, just not enough light, too much electricity used for cooling The Panama x Malawi I only got like 4 ounces off of a 5 pot 5gal scrog. Pretty piss poor performance

...ouch!...definitely room for improvement...what are you using for light? and true watt output?...there must be some sort of balance Ya' can reach without putting yourself beyond fiscal responsibility......cheerz...h00k...

 

[dr.h00k]

...ahhh...silly me...right there in front of me...you run the T5's right thru flower to supplement the the CMH?...you could run some 5000 or 6500K Cfl's, or cheapo LED's,to supplement, to see if that helps...or if your budget allows, some DIY Q boards would give you light without a lot of heat...cheerz...h00k......

 

[TheFertilizer]

...ahhh...silly me...right there in front of me...you run the T5's right thru flower to supplement the the CMH?...you could run some 5000 or 6500K Cfl's, or cheapo LED's,to supplement, to see if that helps...or if your budget allows, some DIY Q boards would give you light without a lot of heat...cheerz...h00k......

Nah I've never used the T5 for supplemental lighting, but considering it this go around. I have two 4x4 tents side-to-side and I keep the T5 in one that's mean for veg'ing/cloning so that I can cycle, but it's literally NEVER come to fruition where I can actually get a perpetual cycle going, so I'm considering just using the T5 for more light. Generally I have it running alongside the flowering light so it won't mean more electrical overhead.

Only problem with that idea is then I won't have a place to keep a mom of this ATF to run with next cycle. But after going 2 full cycles with the PxM I found that I had a stronger desire for variety, so I'm leaning pretty heavily towards using it for more light this go around and then just running something new next time. Plus, then I can use my other 4x4 tent to dry out this outdoor harvest I have coming up.

I wish I could do some Q boards! My budget is pretty crummy, the $200 for my CMH was both a bargain and an investment, so I think that's probably the best I can do lighting wise. Beyond that, I think my RH is another big factor, it's pretty much constantly below 50% even when the tent is packed. I live in a desert :/

 

[TheGreenYeti]

I run a 315 CMH in my 4x4 and I am pulling at least 2 zips off of each plant I have under it. I flower 4 plants in 7s at a time under it and the best plant I pulled put out 3.5 zips. My Q boards do a good amount better as far as yield goes most of the time. It really depends on the strain though. The best I have done is a little over 7 ounces out of a 7 gallon pot. That was only once though. I have seen my typical yields under those lights reach about 4 zips a plant though which is better than the 2.5 to 3 zips I had been getting under my cmhs

 

[AngryBird]

Flap, flap... Juuuust flying by and....
Lots of bugs but nice shots.

 

[TheFertilizer]

I run a 315 CMH in my 4x4 and I am pulling at least 2 zips off of each plant I have under it. I flower 4 plants in 7s at a time under it and the best plant I pulled put out 3.5 zips. My Q boards do a good amount better as far as yield goes most of the time. It really depends on the strain though. The best I have done is a little over 7 ounces out of a 7 gallon pot. That was only once though. I have seen my typical yields under those lights reach about 4 zips a plant though which is better than the 2.5 to 3 zips I had been getting under my cmhs

Ouch, well I guess I can stop considering my lighting the limiting factor. I'd be real happy with that much yield, but I haven't even broke 2 ounces a plant.

I have only ever done a 7 gallon pot once though. I probably could have got a better yield out of it if I hadn't defoliated all the flowering sites on the plant I had in it. But now days my back and wrists are too messed up to even tolerate my 5 gallon buckets :/

 

[TheGreenYeti]

Ouch, well I guess I can stop considering my lighting the limiting factor. I'd be real happy with that much yield, but I haven't even broke 2 ounces a plant.

I have only ever done a 7 gallon pot once though. I probably could have got a better yield out of it if I hadn't defoliated all the flowering sites on the plant I had in it. But now days my back and wrists are too messed up to even tolerate my 5 gallon buckets :/

It has taken me a while to get things fairly well dialed in. I was getting only an ounce and a half a plant at one point. What are you growing in for a medium? I used just promix with fox farm nutes for a while and did pretty well. then I went to Advanced nutrients and did awful, then I tried osmocote plus in PM and then I finally started running the kit. My first round of kit plants yielded terribly but it was more because I rushed them along than anything.

 

[dr.h00k]

...When I look back at when I first stated journaling here, back in 15', when I was still in major hillbilly mode, I was getting decent results...I was running 6 T5 54watt ho's and a bunch of various watt CFL's overhead...a couple fluorescent tubes for side light during veg...come a couple weeks after flip, I'd fire up some 70 watt HPS wall packs...total wattage was just over a 1000...could have prolly yielded more, but I way overcrowded that room...13 girlz in 5 gallons......

...over 2 years, I picked up cheap led's as I put aside some extra cash, to be able to experience at what a lot of peep's were moving to...20/20 hindsight, I would have been better off to put the money aside and wait for the next best thing, which currently seems to be the Q boards...I'm gonna have to replace one light or do without, or see what I still have in my hillbilly box of goods, as one of the led's failed right near the end...
...guess what I'm saying, is if you can get more light in there, things can only get better...cheerz...h00k......

 

[Pennywise]

Hey if you can get cobs for a good price grab them, they still rock a tent big time.

 

[TheFertilizer]

It has taken me a while to get things fairly well dialed in. I was getting only an ounce and a half a plant at one point. What are you growing in for a medium? I used just promix with fox farm nutes for a while and did pretty well. then I went to Advanced nutrients and did awful, then I tried osmocote plus in PM and then I finally started running the kit. My first round of kit plants yielded terribly but it was more because I rushed them along than anything.

I've had the best results at like 1.5 oz per plant in Happy Frog with GH and FoxFarms nutrients. Then I switched up to EarthJuice, got a little less, and finally last two cycles I tried some water-only soil mix I threw together that was roughly based on Clackamas Coot's mix. It didn't do way worse, but I didn't get the mix just right so I had a lot of issues, and I think that's where the yield suffered. But honestly I don't really care for mixing and cooking soil, I had a vermicompost bin going over the summer but it went sour--little 18 gallon stink bombs I'm waiting until winter to empty. So I went back to basics and I'm doing Happy Frog and GH again.

I've been really interested in that osmocote, was thinking about doing it in perlite hempy buckets, but just decided to go back to what's got me the best results and what I'm more familiar with. Helped that Happy Frog is dirt cheap here.

...When I look back at when I first stated journaling here, back in 15', when I was still in major hillbilly mode, I was getting decent results...I was running 6 T5 54watt ho's and a bunch of various watt CFL's overhead...a couple fluorescent tubes for side light during veg...come a couple weeks after flip, I'd fire up some 70 watt HPS wall packs...total wattage was just over a 1000...could have prolly yielded more, but I way overcrowded that room...13 girlz in 5 gallons......

...over 2 years, I picked up cheap led's as I put aside some extra cash, to be able to experience at what a lot of peep's were moving to...20/20 hindsight, I would have been better off to put the money aside and wait for the next best thing, which currently seems to be the Q boards...I'm gonna have to replace one light or do without, or see what I still have in my hillbilly box of goods, as one of the led's failed right near the end...
...guess what I'm saying, is if you can get more light in there, things can only get better...cheerz...h00k......

Yeah, that's why I'm thinking I'm going to throw the T5 in there to supplement things. Not sure how to hang it though. Side-by-side with the CMH, or hang it up vertically next to them so the sub-canopy can get more light.

 

[NorCaliwood]

It has taken me a while to get things fairly well dialed in. I was getting only an ounce and a half a plant at one point. What are you growing in for a medium? I used just promix with fox farm nutes for a while and did pretty well. then I went to Advanced nutrients and did awful, then I tried osmocote plus in PM and then I finally started running the kit. My first round of kit plants yielded terribly but it was more because I rushed them along than anything.

I've tried a million ferts,,,, and I just went back to the industry standard,, the 3 part GH flora series. With some Kool Bloom and a dose of cal mag or two during transition to help with the stretch mode.. Growing kids need strong bones... And it's cheaper than most ferts,, costing 80 bucks for 3 gallons.

LEDs have come a long way,, and may be perfect for a tent were you don't have alot of overhead space. From what I have seen so far,, least for my growing area,, it wood cost 1,000's of dollars to light properly,, to do what I do with a couple big HIDs.

 

[nivek]

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...Thanks Nivek(I always want to say Kevin...)..

well i'll be,, i never ever noticed that before,, that blows my previously blown mind,,

 

[nivek]

...guess what I'm saying, is if you can get more light in there, things can only get better...cheerz...h00k......

absolutely,, bright light mighty right about that

i am researching rebuilding my flower room and had a 5 x 5 room in mind, still do,, scanning 'timber' web site they bragged about outfitting a 5 x 5 room for about 1500 deneros

i thot that a bit pricey,, well, honestly,, cheapo me,, i thot a lot pricey

my mars 300 has seen better days too with 4 bulbs out,, guess i need to work on my soldering some

but we do what we can and have a kick doin it,, cheers hooker

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• nivek
• Oct 13, 2018
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