First High Brix Grow

[PurpleGunRack]

Any InFlux soon?

I'm working on it the first prototype is ready and I posted it in the DIY thread a while back, but here's the pics.
I totally changed the frame design for the next prototype to a much simpler and easier to build design which also makes it possible to move the strips individually on the frame so the light can be intensified or spread out, not that this lamp needs to be intensified at all

H inFlux 2x2 Prototype A

• PurpleGunRack
• Jul 1, 2018

H inFlux 2x2 Prototype A

• PurpleGunRack
• Jul 1, 2018

H inFlux 2x2 Prototype A

• PurpleGunRack
• Jul 1, 2018

H inFlux 2x2 Prototype A

• PurpleGunRack
• Jul 1, 2018

H inFlux 2x2 Prototype A

• PurpleGunRack
• Jul 1, 2018

H inFlux 2x2 Prototype A - Sonoff app screenshot (AC side)

• PurpleGunRack
• Jul 1, 2018

 

[CraZysWeeD]

Ok, I'm sorry I've missed that! Looks very good. Fun to se your results with it. But I think you will do great with these lights too... How much more efficient than the older samsung series are they?

 

[PurpleGunRack]

Ok, I'm sorry I've missed that! Looks very good. Fun to se your results with it. But I think you will do great with these lights too... How much more efficient than the older samsung series are they?

@3000K
F-series single row 560mm strips - 76 LM561C diodes - $0,209 per diode

H inFlux L06 560mm strips - 88 LM301B diodes -> 4,76% higher efficacy - $0,279 per diode = 33,5% higher cost

H inFlux L04 560mm strips - 64 LM301B diodes -> 5,95% higher efficacy - $0,289 per diode= 38,3% higher cost.
(1,13% higher efficacy than L06)

Still need to do some more temperature testing, but iafter running for an hour it stays below the nominal performance temperature @200w AC without any extraction/airflow around it.

However, the bulk discount is better for the H inFlux than the F-series, it's definitely still worth getting the F-series, especially in large builds where the 1120mm strips come in handy.

 

[CraZysWeeD]

@3000K
F-series single row 560mm strips - 76 LM561C diodes - $0,209 per diode

H inFlux L06 560mm strips - 88 LM301B diodes -> 4,76% higher efficacy - $0,279 per diode = 33,5% higher cost

H inFlux L04 560mm strips - 64 LM301B diodes -> 5,95% higher efficacy - $0,289 per diode= 38,3% higher cost.
(1,13% higher efficacy than L06)

Still need to do some more temperature testing, but iafter running for an hour it stays below the nominal performance temperature @200w AC without any extraction/airflow around it.

However, the bulk discount is better for the H inFlux than the F-series, it's definitely still worth getting the F-series, especially in large builds where the 1120mm strips come in handy.

The efficiency pays of in the long run then.

It's great you perform these test so people know whats more efficient than the other when buying. It's not always the specs from the supplier holds up to what they promise. Especially when dealing with so small differences. How do they hold up in the longer run or haven't you got there yet?

Everything here on the other side of the strait melts away right now... Crazy temps.... had my worst night ever this one. Just kept waking up and was swimming in my bed... It's so hot the ac can't get it down to more than max 24C in my apartment.

 

[PurpleGunRack]

It's like any other tech thing, new shit cost more but last longer


There's a difference between efficacy and efficiency.

Efficacy = Lumen per watt - electrical efficiency - MUST be compared to LEDs of same CCT, ie. you can't compare 3000K to 4000K.

Efficiency= Actual photosynthetic efficiency, very complicated to truly measure, PPFD average across a given surface area per watt is probably the closest you can get to a single number describing efficiency of a light source.

To really measure this we need a better understanding of both plants and light, we could do a rather complicated equation putting in energy consumption, growth rate, brix levels, flowering time, yield, cannabinoid profile, terpene profile etc., but strains and phenotypes are different so it doesn't add up, you can't compare the yield of a landrace sativa to a modern hybrid, then you need a factor for every strain and phenotype which is practically impossible...

When you're supplied by Samsung Semiconductor you get stuff that does what it says on the tin, no middle man, no greedy LED pushers, just electronic parts.
Not growing with H inFlux yet, just messing around with builds and stuff


Well, so far it'd just simple testing, I'm saving up for an Apogee 520 Quantum Sensor so I can measure the 400-700nm photon flux density.
Comparing is very easy, it's just using Digi-jkey's parametric search and you get a nice overview of different units, then just apply simple percentage calculations.
Just checked the 4000K F-series vs H inFlux and it has 9,8% higher efficacy.

Yeah, crazy summer I really miss the rain that hurts your face and wearing a jacket in July

 

[CraZysWeeD]

It's a bottomless subject with growing indoors and what lighting to choose. It's gotten more komplex since led made an entrance.

I noticed that the specs on the 4Ks was some better than 3Ks. I'm satisfied with my logic boards but I'm going to build some new light for vegging and cloning. Haven't decided what yet and these new H inFlux seems like a good choice.

It's always nice to cut out middle men, I guess that's the reason why all of us are growing. Middle hands in our business are always greedy. So if we can cut out more of them even better. These strip builds they have started with is great. Much more simpel to put together than it was a few years ago when you got a few zipbags with diodes and was forced to weld all together your self.

Your build looks great, how does it perform in the heat? Do you think it would be able to keep up growing with it in this heat? I shut down the third logic board the other day and the climate got instantly better but still hot in the tent. 30-32C right now. I have an ac but I need it my self. I'm melting away. Still a night with no sleep. Think I'm going to run naked in the rain when it finally get here. We got so many forest fires right now ravaging. It seems like more than half of them are man made... Idiots. They should have the 3" hose right up their alley.

Hope to se more soon from you build and maybe some growth under it?

 

[PurpleGunRack]

Beeing able to build a light of our own is the greatest thing to come along since we where able to grow our own weed
Strips are so nice and simple to use, even compared to COBs they're much simpler to build with and don't need any soldering or heavy heatsink.
I really like how they are able to fit perfectly in anything from a PC cabinet to a big warehouse, no other optoelectronic unit is that versatile.

My SoG grow is running at night, so it stays below 28C with 540w worth of QBs runnning.

Sucks with the forest fires and people not caring,,, without forests your country would be like our, only with lighter beer, weirder food and insane political correctness

I started a pheno hunt grow recently and intend to grow them under a mix of blurple and H inFlux, maybe I'll have a full tent of H inFlux when they're ready for flowering, but I doubt it - I'm pretty swamped with shit at the moment so not a lot of time to build..

 

[CraZysWeeD]

Yeah, I'm loving this diy leds also and their versatility. Easy to expand and to dim down if you don't need full power. I turned off one logic now because I only have four plants left right now and in hope for the temps to go down.

Going to take a break now for a month or so and moving the operation to another closet witch I will be able to fit two 60*120 tents. One for bloom and one for mothers and cutlings. So I'm really keen on those H inFlux strips for the mother/clone tent.

Also got a lot of stuff going on... Does it ever calm down or is life suppose to be like this?

 

[Phenoman]

Welcome

It's just what's recommended for High Brix, actually we have some of the cleanest tap water in the world here, test results are posted online and only mechanical cleaning of the ground water is used, but in the city the pH is rather high and I'm supplied from different sources so the pH fluctuates, it's just to follow the regiment and eliminate some variables

I'm really into the high brix movement myself, what a great thread. I agree cleanest water possible. I used to use tap water but have switched myself to RO after moving Downriver Detroit.

Loving the high brix science!

 

[Phenoman]

What he said ^^^^^ I would try and get a lower going then you get a second chance later if it don't work out.

Update on this, been a while.
My first cut survived and I revegged the budded top without issue. half a tray of cuts in flower now
EDIT: turned out to be a winner by every definition. loudest lime/pine fuel monster i've grown or smoked to date. Her sister slightly stronger but this one will be entered in the cup for shiggles.

Thanks again everyone!

 

[Phenoman]

It's like any other tech thing, new shit cost more but last longer


There's a difference between efficacy and efficiency.

Efficacy = Lumen per watt - electrical efficiency - MUST be compared to LEDs of same CCT, ie. you can't compare 3000K to 4000K.

Efficiency= Actual photosynthetic efficiency, very complicated to truly measure, PPFD average across a given surface area per watt is probably the closest you can get to a single number describing efficiency of a light source.

To really measure this we need a better understanding of both plants and light, we could do a rather complicated equation putting in energy consumption, growth rate, brix levels, flowering time, yield, cannabinoid profile, terpene profile etc., but strains and phenotypes are different so it doesn't add up, you can't compare the yield of a landrace sativa to a modern hybrid, then you need a factor for every strain and phenotype which is practically impossible...

When you're supplied by Samsung Semiconductor you get stuff that does what it says on the tin, no middle man, no greedy LED pushers, just electronic parts.
Not growing with H inFlux yet, just messing around with builds and stuff


Well, so far it'd just simple testing, I'm saving up for an Apogee 520 Quantum Sensor so I can measure the 400-700nm photon flux density.
Comparing is very easy, it's just using Digi-jkey's parametric search and you get a nice overview of different units, then just apply simple percentage calculations.
Just checked the 4000K F-series vs H inFlux and it has 9,8% higher efficacy.

Yeah, crazy summer I really miss the rain that hurts your face and wearing a jacket in July

Thanks for this information!
I was all set for QBs, run one 65w in veg since my plants do all the growth in flower now and love it.
want to switch to them, so what is this? A new, pardon my lack of proper terminology, subtrate? construction method?
Anolgous to vNand's memory architecture vs 2D, are we able to surpass the... eh what it is 2.4 micromoles per joule?
I will check out some Google. love the progressive light projects here too Purple

 

[JustMeds]

@Phenoman I am due north of ya about hundred miles. That shoreline ride is a pretty one some times.

 

[Phenoman]

@Phenoman I am due north of ya about hundred miles. That shoreline ride is a pretty one some times.

Yes! My wife and I are planning on going up that way looking for "the farm" .
Part of our plan in the downriver move is to save while sharing space /caring for my mother and purchasing minimum 10 acres right up your way though inland a bit.
We breed Irish Wolfhounds as well I want to expand my cannabis project into a wellness center for the cessation/ reduction or alternative to addictive pharmaceuticals. Hit an unexpected financial snag but I always pop out on top in the end.

Purple! Apologies for stealing the thread! doh! Thanks my friend.

 

[Pjs420]

We breed Irish Wolfhounds

always wanted one of these! Maybe the next dog... atleast Now I know who to ask!

on topic, that light looks wicked purple... The strip lighting reminds me of the fluence lights

 

[Phenoman]

How's it going PurpleGunRack?

 

[PurpleGunRack]

Also got a lot of stuff going on... Does it ever calm down or is life suppose to be like this?

Yeah it's a rat race, and no, I don't think it's supposed to be like that and not a day goes by where I don't think about fleeing to your great forests to live as an off grid nomad

How's it going PurpleGunRack?

Very busy with an intensive maths course, and it's been 15 years since I did the previous level (where I didn't pay attention), so I have to learn that as well.
But that's what I get for getting the idea in my head that I should go back to school at 33

Plants are doing fine, but I'm a bit pressed on the veg side, need to get my mother/clone tent fitted with some exhaust and light, so I can move those into that tent and transplant the seedlings in the veg tent

 

[Phenoman]

Hey, hang in there! You got it.
I went back to school and got my degree in software development at that age.
I was 33 when I went back to school.
Ya, with it being so long ago you basically need to start over and learn the concepts in order otherwise you will be lost.
I used to think I sucked at Math, got bad grades when I was younger, but I think if you are interested or have another bit of motivation it's not as hard as it seems.
That and it needs to be learned in order.
My college courses were done online with some software that has an AI that will learn what you need to work on and focuses on helping you understand the concepts for things you struggle with.
Very repetitive.
Long story long I got an A in both Algebra and "IT Math" (blend of specific Linear Algebra and Calculus concepts related to computing - way beyond what I thought myself capable of).
You are wicked smart, so provided you can stay interested you will kick ass I'm sure.

 

[TheBlaze]

Sorry for my absence bud. I don't get notifications on most of the journals I'm subbed to anymore. Plenty of traffic in here though, so I'm sure I wasn't missed.

Your new girls are looking great!

I always thought you were American...

 

[CraZysWeeD]

Yeah it's a rat race, and no, I don't think it's supposed to be like that and not a day goes by where I don't think about fleeing to your great forests to live as an off grid nomad

I hear ya. I wish it was that simpel. Just in the start of preparing my move to the family farm house. It's by a creek and a forest and all but right now it feels like it's still light years away. Can't trust my body any more like I used too but I hope I can land this. It's been a dream all my life. And man what a grow space I get in the basement there.

Hope you are having a great summer in Denmark and smoke a spliff for me in chriss.

 

[CraZysWeeD]

Very busy with an intensive maths course, and it's been 15 years since I did the previous level (where I didn't pay attention), so I have to learn that as well.
But that's what I get for getting the idea in my head that I should go back to school at 33

Plants are doing fine, but I'm a bit pressed on the veg side, need to get my mother/clone tent fitted with some exhaust and light, so I can move those into that tent and transplant the seedlings in the veg tent

Studied math and automation in that age too. Man it's hard getting up in that seat again. And you see the younger freshmen going at it like it's butter in the sun.