pretty sure if you read the research it developed as the plant spread out from china into russia over the steppes along with ruderalis.
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pretty sure if you read the research it developed as the plant spread out from china into russia over the steppes along with ruderalis.
I have a small, wire mesh kitchen strainer that I set on top of my sprayer to pour stuff through when adding stuff into it. That filters out everything that would clog up the sprayer without having to have filters and mesh bags on each of my various extract containers.
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I use panty hose as a filter. You can stretch it over the top of a bucket, then pour your liquid in. I also make a funnel out of a 1 gal. plastic bottle (bottom cut off), and put a panty hose around that. This can be used as a filter funnel for pouring liquid into a pump sprayer.
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From what I've read, the emergence of CBD is associated with the sativa morphology, and original sativa wild strains are associated with the geographic regions of present-day Europe, Asia Minor (Turkey), and Central Asia (Kazakhstan, etc.) So it looks like the original high-THC indica wild strains from the areas of the high-elevation Tibetan Plateau probably morphed into sativas in Central Asia, then spread westward. The amount of THC (or CBD) may be directly associated with the stresses (or lack thereof) associated with high elevations. And then those adaptations became part of the genome.
I haven't read much info recently about ruderalis, but I recall that it's low-THC and possibly contains some CBD.
I wrote:
More info on cannabis "center of origin" in my post HERE.
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Yes, I have not read the literature extensively, but I am familiar with Chebarkul, which is a Siberian low-potency landrace CBD strain.
They are grown by Khalifa. I think Coffee Shop Seeds is a sponsor.
Chebarkul Siberian Ruderalis CBD Auto Regular Cannabis Seeds by Khalifa Genetics
Chebarkul Siberian Ruderalis CBD Auto is an XXL-sized, highly vigorous auto-flowering variety that produces plenty of trichomes. Villagers near Lake Chebarkul, Siberia, have been using these semi-wild plants to make richly-flavoured, high CBD charas (hand-rubbed hashish). These plants are vigorous, hardy and are fast to flower in the short growing season. Suitable for all climate types.
The likely origins of Siberian Ruderalis are hybridisation between landraces from nearby Kazakhstan with the local Ruderal variety. Such a mix would help to explain the pungent citrusy smell, high trichome production as well as the mild psycho-activity of most phenotypes.
Flowering begins within 2 – 3 weeks from germination of the seeds while plants grow increasingly tall ending up between 120 – 190 cm. during their approx.12 week life cycle. Indoors they can be ‘topped’ up to a couple of times to control height. About a quarter of the plants will display purple/mauve colours.
In order for these seeds to survive the harsh Siberian winters where average January temperatures are -21°C they have a very thick protective shell that serves to prevent early germination before the Spring thaw. Cold treatment, to mimic natural dormancy, or soaking and scarification is necessary for them to germinate correctly. For this reason extra seeds are included in the packs to allow growers to practise this.
In their natural habitat these plants thrive on poor, rocky soil, even more so than other landraces, and need very low nutrient levels. A very light feeding in the second half of their cycle is all that’s required. Yields are medium in size.
The scent/taste is sweet, floral and citrus with pine and spice notes. It has a mild, soothing and relaxing effect.
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4.5–9% CBD, not bad!
non-psychoactive cannabis grows wild all over china. when you go there it grows as a ground cover or invasive plant.
developed in what is essentially russia. the mexican version is related but genetically different, possibly through centuries of isolation.
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For a modern hybrid, I would think that was way low. But for a land race growing and rocky soil with no fertilizer… Yeah, not too bad!
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Interesting. I did not know that. Thank you.
Very good information, thank you
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Update on that HERE.
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I have a semi-educated hunch that the hemp-type sativa (very low THC) dispersed to China from Central Asia through human activity, and this brought CBD to China. Prior to that, it seems it was all high-THC indica there.
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I'm guessing they mean 9% if grown in more-or-less ideal conditions. Which would make it essentially a 10% variety, which is on par with a lot of the modern type III CBDs. There's also a 10-15% range, which I've had some experience with. And then the 15-20% range, which the Sweet Critical CBD I'm growing falls into, and all the strains developed by Oregon CBD (Crawford brothers).For a modern hybrid, I would think that was way low. But for a land race growing and rocky soil with no fertilizer… Yeah, not too bad!
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Just to double-check my math/reasoning, in a 7'0" x 9'4" grow space, how many photos in 5 gallon SIPs?
A reasonable rule of thumb is each plant gets 2'x2' of floor space unless you veg super long. So, 7' wide is 3 plants, and 9' deep is roughly 4 plants, so that would be 3x4=12 reasonably sized plants, fewer if you veg longer for bigger plants.
I can do two small plants in 2 gallon containers in a 3'x1.5' space, but your 5 gallon SIPs are obviously bigger.
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Ahhh, right! Thanks.
Yes, the vertical component... would that be important??
(Yes, I need to give some more and better information.)
Yes, I am thinking to veg long, so they can get tall. (Not as tall as CBD hemp, but long.)
Realistically speaking I probably have about 5'10" between the top of the buckets, and the bottom of the lights (without jumping through hoops).
I think these are all supposed to be Indica/sativa hybrids, so they should not be too tall.
I am thinking to let the tallest one get about maybe 2-1/2' tall and then flip.
The target for this first grow is maybe 5 - 5-1/2 foot tall total height from the top of the bucket to crown cola tip (more or less). And if I have to supercop, I have a lattice framework to tie it to.
My goal is that the supersoil be just barely spent, so I expect to have to add topdress near the end. I have some leftover GF and Roots Terp Tea Bloom (plus GLN Sweet Candy in case things really get rowdy
).Years ago when I first started growing, I grew plants in 5 gallon (later 7 gallon) fabric pots. I grew them maybe 5'6" tall on average, and they were pretty big! I am just guessing that they were like maybe like 3-4 feet across? Not sure really, but bushy.
I probably did not trim them correctly, or train them correctly, or anything like that. And as I recall, there was a lot of what looks like nitrogen deficiencies in the end (but that's fine near the end). (I had no clue about supplementation or proper training back in those days.)
(I think this time I want to follow the @Krissi Carbone method, and just have 8 main colas, and trim it for just those eight colas, but I still think the plants are going to get at least a little bit wide!)
I was thinking something like six or seven big bushes.
I guess I am debating with myself whether or not I want to try for a seventh in that space, or just six big bushy girls (with big hair, ha ha!
)I have six beans up. One is a rescue girl who seems to be resting a bit before she takes off. I guess my real question is whether or not I want to plant a seventh bean, or not.
For full disclosure:
Partly it is an experiment to see how big of girls I can get with 3.75 gallons of original strength super soil.
My hope is that the Nutrients will just start to run out near the end, so that I have to supplement, so that the super soil is good and spent this time, before I go to remix it.
(For future batches, I may want to mix the soil stronger, but for this original batch, not.)
I just checked the sixth girl, and her color is good. She just isn't doing much yet. She is still in the Coty phase. I propped her up with a big piece of Perlite.
She just has not taken off yet.(I planted another bean three days later than her, and she is already taking off, moving beyond the Coty's and is already in veg.
I think I should give the girl with the Perlite pillow another week, but I do not want to miss my time window.
I hope I am making sense, and I hope I am providing better information this time.
Check the documentation with your lights as there maybe a recommended distance from the lights to top of your plant, so you'd add that to the calculation to determine when to flip.
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Wow, thanks for telling me that! I read the documentation as best I could, but it did not give a minimum distance.
Hmmm....
Only to comment from my position of LED-NOOB ignorance, I get the impression that there are much more powerful (read: much more desirable) lights out there that can give the girls TOO good of a suntan (Mars Hydro, etc.).
I went with these inexpensive lamps mostly because I could afford the shipping (haha, but seriously)--however, for full disclosure, they are probably not the bomb. (Think Chevy and VolksWagen, rather than Porsche or Maserati, haha.)
So, I have maybe 5'10" from top of bucket to top of lights with the EASY hanging method, and maybe 6'2" if I jump through a small additional hoop (with the SLIGHTLY MORE WORK hanging method [AVOID it!! Lol.]).
Based on your comments, maybe I should AIM for about 5'--and then I can supercrop if I miss my guess.
Thank you, Azi!
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Ok, I was thinking about this. Thank you for good food for thought.
These are two autos that are just starting to go into flower. I was able to train seven colas to the outside rim before letting them turn upwards, and now they are starting to flower.
This is Afghan Mass XXL Auto, who I believe is sativa dominant (but only 3% CBD).
And this is Delicious Cheese (Delicious Candy), which I THINK is indica dominant, but she made her little arms to the sides of the bucket (but just barely). One cola is a little short, but no matter.
The 5G bucket is about 1' in diameter.
I guess my question would have to be, if try to shoot for @ a 5' tall overall height, with seven or eight colas growing STRAIGHT up, and I try to cut out / cut off any-and-all side branching, about how wide will the plants probably get at 5' of height?
Will they still be only 2'x2' across? Or will they more likely be closer to 3'x3'? Or about how wide might one expect such a plant to get?
I hope I am asking clearly, and that my meaning is understood. Thank you