SubCool Supersoil In SIPs With EWC, CBD Autos For Aspergers

[CBDMed]

I've never seen a clear bucket here!

It is crazy here! Even the solo cups are clear!
This is what I used to start my seeds in back before SIP's!

 

[CBDMed]

Just to say thank you to Shed and Bluter for the advice to put the Auto CBD 1:1 (Crack CBD Auto) in glass jars. I'm not exactly sure what that does, but Wow that is tasting smooth!


I should give credit to GeoFlora as well as to whoever bred the CBD 1:1. That is quite the bouquet of flavors. (Too bad it is so expensive to import!)

Some day when there is budget again, I think to collect some photo seeds. It grew in auto form without any kind of mold or rot. Very pleasing. A+.

 

[CBDMed]

Ok, it looks like I will try to put a clone room in action for photo clones on the next grow.

How strong of a light do you ideally want?

 

[InTheShed]

How strong of a light do you ideally want?

Not very strong at all. A desk lamp will do just fine.

 

[CBDMed]

Not very strong at all. A desk lamp will do just fine.

 

[CBDMed]

Just an update on the Malawi cob, that was close enough to 3 months
I opened one bag of two test cobs of older NL Auto CBD weed that in truth I was not sure would even ferment, because it was old and brown (long story, but it was the Salted Soil grow).
It fermented just great, and it tasted much better than I thought it would. That was a nice smooth-as-silk body high.

Lab tests cost $75 each here, and I would hypothetically need two tests, and I do not have $150 for twp tests right now, but I could feel the CBD in the test sample, so as far as I am concerned (speaking only for myself), I feel cleared to put CBD into the cob.

 

[CBDMed]

Oy...
Two of the girls seem good size, but many of the rest of the plants seem a little small.
I did not have any problem with this same soil for either of the two Crystal Auto CBD Regulars that went up on the roof. They grew very vigorously and nice colors until they got taken out with mold. (I put almost all of it into the cob, but the little tastes that I had before tasted excellent!! Kind of a blueberry haze!


Only two things come to mind that I did differently this time.
One is I put a bit of DynoMyco in the hole with the seeds.
Two is, someone recommended that I plant the seeds dry to increase vigor and health, and then water them in. Only, the germination rate was terrible, and the plants are small.
I did have one time before when my plants were just small and I do not know why, so it is not necessarily the DynoMyco, but I'm also sure it is not the super soil, because those two rooftop autos did great.

I noticed on the last grow that I put a variation of "spikes" or "layers" in two test buckets, which I called "dollops".
Both Test buckets grew very small, maybe 1/3 of the other girls.
The only thing is that there was a signifocant amount of fertilizer in those "dollops", whereas in contrast, these autos only had a few grains of DynoMyco in the whole, and a thin layer of it at the bottom of the "starter-cup hole."
The intent was to give the root system fertilizer, to help it grow. I did not in advertently make the plants "lazy" because they were able to find their food easily?

I'm wondering if the thing is to mix the DM more or less uniformly through the soil, and not put any kind of fertilizer cache or depot at all, and see how we do, but I am wide-open for suggestions.

 

[InTheShed]

I am wide-open for suggestions.

I suggest that it has nothing to do with the dynomyco and much more to do with the genetics. If the plants aren't small because of some visible deficiency or pests and the lights are the same over all of them, then they're expressing themselves as best as they can. Autos can show a variation in size across the same strain, as they are not just a cross of a number of parents but need to maintain the ruderalis (autoflower) genetics as well.

 

[CBDMed]

I suggest that it has nothing to do with the dynomyco and much more to do with the genetics.

If the plants aren't small because of some visible deficiency or pests and the lights are the same over all of them, then they're expressing themselves as best as they can.

Autos can show a variation in size across the same strain, as they are not just a cross of a number of parents but need to maintain the ruderalis (autoflower) genetics as well.

This is the same soil that I used for those two Blueberry Crystal Top Tao plants on the roof that grew great.
Only, with this batch of seeds, after almost a month, I have only one Afghan Mass XXL that seems like a good size, and good development. I expect she will give a nice yield.

This is delicious cheese (delicious candy). She seems a little short and squat, maybe a little more Indica? Just not enough growth.
I would prefer to see her touching the sides of the container, but I do not know that I would necessarily pull the plug, if it was just her that was slow.

Everyone else seems small. For example, this Delicious Cheese is wayyyy too small to be throwing pistils! (This one will get plucked for sure.) There are several this size.

I also have four buckets where I replanted with Charlotte's Angel CBD Automatic. It is still too soon to tell if I should keep them, or pluck them-- but for a sativa, I do not see a lot of growth yet.
This is the best looking one.

I suppose if Charlotte's Angels grow in nicely I can replant the other buckets with autos, and continue with aitos for this last grow.
Alternately, if Charlotte's Angels are small, then I could replant with photos, since I have proper light hangers now.

(And even of I do go photo, maybe I could let any good sized girls live in a corner, as the tent will be 24x7 while the photos are in veg anyway?)

 

[CBDMed]

Big sigh
Well, I plucked most of the autos. I left the two biggest ones (one Afghan Mass XXL and a slightly-small Delicious Cheese, and the four young Charlotte's Angel CBD Automatics). The biggest one does not look too bad for 12 days, so I should probably give her a chance.

Big sigh
Part of me wants to put more auto seeds, to get them started.
The other part of me wants to wait and see if I should just put five or six photo seeds, and get this grow on the road.

One question:
I have some Top Tao "auto" seeds, but "Mr. Tao" said they need at least six hours of dark (18/6). I do not really understand that. Is there a way I could understand it?
(I thought maybe I could put his 2m Blueberry Crystal seeds, and his 2m Strawberry Amnesia Haze seeds, and then when they are tall enough I can flip (and if the autos are not finished it does not matter). If they get to 1.5 to 2 m tall, then that should give a pretty good harvest.
We talked about the "semi auto" thing before, and I did not really understand what the deal is. How can I understand it?
Thanks.

 

[InTheShed]

I didn't mean to put you off the autos since any harvest is better than empty pots! I just meant that there are very few auto growers who consistently get photo-sized plants from theirs, and it doesn't seem to be repeatable by many folks who try to follow their methods.

The other part of me wants to wait and see if I should just put five or six photo seeds, and get this grow on the road.

If you have the dark-capability to run photos, why would you ever run autos, especially if you're a medical cannabis user? It would be a much surer bet to harvest your g/day need from a photo over an auto.

I have some Top Tao "auto" seeds, but "Mr. Tao" said they need at least six hours of dark (18/6). I do not really understand that. Is there a way I could understand it?

They might just mean that it does better with a bit less light rather than needing that schedule to flower. Most folks run their autos at 18/6 or 20/4 if only to save money on the electric bill.

 

[CBDMed]

I didn't mean to put you off the autos since any harvest is better than empty pots!

Shed, you did not put me off of autos. From my perspective, you and several others have encouraged and helped me. (And thank you. )

I just meant that there are very few auto growers who consistently get photo-sized plants from theirs, and it doesn't seem to be repeatable by many folks who try to follow their methods.

Well, I appreciate that. Only, maybe I was not clear. Please let me try again.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the last time I grew Afghan Mass XXL Auto, the auto plants were all much bigger at this stage. (I.e., they were all touching the rim of the 5G SIP before they threw pistils.)
It is winter right now here, and last year it was colder. Last year I wanted the lights on 24 x 7 for house heat.
This year is warmer.

SEPARATE TOPIC:

About the "full-size autos", "Mr. Tao" sells several "autos" that he says have a minimal representation of Ruderalis.
He says they get to be 2 m tall after all summer (4.5 months or something).
He claims 5% CBD (which is enough--or at least I will cut him a pass.)

BLUEBERRY CRYSTAL . 5 pcs . regular fast version​

OUTDOOR | INDOOR | GREENHOUSE
Height: 1,5 - 2,5 m
Genetics: mostly Indica
Cannabinoid: high
Harvest: 4-4,5 months after germination
Thanks to the minimal representation of Ruderalis, the flowers are being build already after 16 hours of light and therefore it ripens outside early.

I am a little bit at sea. I know what to think if it is a photo, and I know what to think if it is an auto, but I do not know what to think if "there is a little bit of Ruderalis, but not too much."

If you have the dark-capability to run photos, why would you ever run autos,

It seems like a good question.
I just got dark capability to run photos on this grow. And I was seriously thinking about growing photos on this grow, but then I thought I should use the autos up first, so as not to waste.
Plus last year at this time it was much colder, and I wanted the lights on 24 x 7. (Only this year is a little warmer, so I do not really need the lights on 24 x 7.)
I suppose I could give them away.

especially if you're a medical cannabis user?

Good question.
It is a long story (and hard to explain) but the thought of putting potency to a ruderalis made me smile. (Maybe you would have to be autistic to appreciate it, haha. )

Hmmm.... Well, I have also heard it said that if you are a medical user, you should only ever grow regular photo seeds (and not even clones). Is that the same line of reasoning?
(Or were you thinking mainly about the harvest being larger?)

It would be a much surer bet to harvest your g/day need from a photo over an auto.

As I remember, 5-6 photos used to put out a whopping amount of bud that used to last me all year (I'm not so sure about now.) It would be nice to have 5 foot tall bushes again!
I just got a potential clone room free last week.

They might just mean that it does better with a bit less light rather than needing that schedule to flower. Most folks run their autos at 18/6 or 20/4 if only to save money on the electric bill.

Well, electricity is way cheap here (like $100 for the month, with everything.)
I think the main thing is that I hate to waste seeds--but probably you are right, probably it makes a whole lot more sense to make the switch to photos.
Maybe I could plant the CBD version of Sugar Black Rose. That should have lots of terpenes.

 

[InTheShed]

I suppose I could give them away.

Don't do that! You never know what the weather is going to be like or when they might come in handy again.

I do not know what to think if "there is a little bit of Ruderalis, but not too much."

Sounds like marketing to me. And anyway, it's no big deal to run autos at 18/6 anyway with powerful lights.

(Or were you thinking mainly about the harvest being larger?)

I was really thinking about harvest weights. After drying I make note of the g/day above ground, and folks who have a g/day medical target would be wise to do the same. I am sure that you will average a higher g/day with photos than autos over the course of the year.

I think the main thing is that I hate to waste seeds

Whatever you spent on seeds would be less than if you had to buy cannabis to replace what is lost to smaller harvests.

Maybe I could plant the CBD version of Sugar Black Rose. That should have lots of terpenes.

You should have some Candida seeds within a few weeks depending on how long things take to get down there.

 

[CBDMed]

Don't do that! You never know what the weather is going to be like or when they might come in handy again.

Well, that is true. If my landlady sells the place, I could be back to no-indoor grow room... (I hope not!)

Sounds like marketing to me. And anyway, it's no big deal to run autos at 18/6 anyway with powerful lights.

Yeah. But to be practical I should probably save those seeds also (as they are semi-auto), and switch straight to photos.

I was really thinking about harvest weights. After drying I make note of the g/day above ground, and folks who have a g/day medical target would be wise to do the same. I am sure that you will average a higher g/day with photos than autos over the course of the year.

Oh!
I thought G'day meant you were from Australia

Whatever you spent on seeds would be less than if you had to buy cannabis to replace what is lost to smaller harvests.

Well, that is true. Thankfully I do not have to buy it anymore, because they have some crazy rules here.
You can grow 20 plants per household for yourself, no problem! (Fly to Saturn if you want.) But then you have to get special permission from Bogotá to buy more than 10 g at a time???

(Self-grow = "NO problem, señor!" But if you buy more than 10 g at a time, you could go to prison! )

You should have some Candida seeds within a few weeks depending on how long things take to get down there.

Actually I have lots of photo seeds, but I do not have Candida, and as you say, she got good reviews!
It would be nice to keep her around, also, assuming she can handle the humidity.

 

[InTheShed]

I'm currently testing a canola oil spray for powdery mildew which shows some promise, but I haven't had a chance to test it on anything in flower yet. That will be later this summer after I flip.

 

[CBDMed]

I'm currently testing a canola oil spray for powdery mildew which shows some promise, but I haven't had a chance to test it on anything in flower yet. That will be later this summer after I flip.

I will be interested to hear.

 

[CBDMed]

Ok, well, I will let the two biggest autos live, and right now we are still letting the 4 Charlotte's Angels CBD autos ride. Maybe if the grow room starts to get too crowded I'll put some more lights up and make a separate grow room.

I just took five Deep Mandarin photo fem seeds to the pool for swimming lessons. DM is the CBD version of Sugar Black Rose, so I am hoping it has some phenos.

I also dropped two Peyote WiFi CBD 2:1 for the CBD ratio, and we will see. (Everything was bought through a sponsor.) I did not check for mildew resistance but I guess we will see.

 

[CBDMed]

Probably I guess it would have made more sense to plant a bunch of different stuff and get clones.
I guess instead of buying a dozen you can just buy three, or five, huh?

 

[InTheShed]

How many you need depends om how much time you have! If you have lots of time you could buy one, make a mother plant out of it, and cut clones on an ongoing basis. But if you need to harvest short term then you'd buy as many as you need plants to harvest. Then as they grow you'd cut clones from the ones you want to keep around for the next grow.

Or any variation of that scenario!

 

[CBDMed]

How many you need depends om how much time you have! If you have lots of time you could buy one, make a mother plant out of it, and cut clones on an ongoing basis. But if you need to harvest short term then you'd buy as many as you need plants to harvest. Then as they grow you'd cut clones from the ones you want to keep around for the next grow.

Or any variation of that scenario!

I think I am getting a happy picture, thanks!
I think @bluter mentioned that it is better to take clones from a regular? (Anyway, these should work for the moment.)
So when you take the suckers off, if you want you can put them in Perlite and weak solution under weak lights, and then when you are ready, just put them in soil?
How long can you keep them in "suspended animation" like that before you need to put them in soil or whatever?