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[CBDMed]

It is nice to wake up to a garden in bloom!
This is the West Wing:

And this is the east wing:

They do not stink too much yet, but it is still early.
The humidity is still in the mid-70% (but it is better than the 80%+ and 90%+ that it was).

I'm hoping it will come down to mid-60% but we will see.

I am a little concerned because these are mainly Indica girls, but I put the indicas next to the fans.
We just have to get through to the first crop in maybe seven or eight months, and I am sure we will get that much, so it is a good feeling!!

With this nice new clone and seed starter room, I think I should try to pop beans, so that they are already established when they go to the greenhouse.
Then we can have a summer grow with beans I already have.
Then when the mold resistant beans come in, we will be set for winter.

Happy day, thanks, everyone!
I am on my way to medicine...

 

[CBDMed]

Hey @Azimuth,

Cloning is really hard until you find some way that works for you then it becomes routine.

I clone in perlite as well, but I spray my clones twice a day about 12 hours apart and keep them out of any direct light. You can read how I do it in my sig if you want more detail. I've tried a lot of different ways and the cup of water always took the absolute longest of anything I've had success with, and by a lot.

How long did the cup of water take?
And did they all make it?
(I just lost some more perlite clones.)

 

[Azimuth]

Hey @Azimuth,


How long did the cup of water take?
And did they all make it?
(I just lost some more perlite clones.)

Was a month or more if I remember and they didn't all make it and the ones that did looked a bit ragged.

 

[CBDMed]

Just keep 'em in a warm room. The weather is so mild here in Hawaii, I can keep mine in the greenhouse. But I have actually thought of doing the cloning in a room in the house.

Hahaha, you could probably stick a 2x4 in the ground in Hawaii, and it might grow!

I'm gonna cut to the chase here... it sounds like you want 1:1 indica, yes? The problem with that is 1:1 severely narrows the field, which is why I always say grow both high CBD (type 3) and high THC (type 2), and then mix them in the grinder. If you fold in the fungus/mold resistance into that equation, it makes even more sense.

Hahaha, we are hoping to move to a farm greenhouse setup.
I was thinking that Type 1 (all-THC) is more likely to "disappear" than type 2 (1:1).
(Haha, except this is my stash we are talking about here!)

 

[CBDMed]

Was a month or more if I remember and they didn't all make it and the ones that did looked a bit ragged.

Oy...
Sounds like I need to figure out the perlite ones, or else I had better just plan on seeds (which is probably the reality anyway, because I am out of time, and deadlines are coming up again, so I need to shift now).

Woof. About clones, once we shift to the greenhouse, the gardener will know all about how to take clones, so all I really need is to get the seeds I want, and tell him which ones and how many of each.
(Bummer for me, because I love this stuff, but I am always out of time.)

Probably I will want to talk with him about optimizing the soil also.
The last we talked they were planning to do an all-organic in-ground grow (basically a mess of goat manure, chicken manure/compost, sheep manure/compost, and worm compost). I like that, but I would also like to add whatever nutes will make it kick and produce (volcanic rock dust, myco, trico, and whatever nutes and amendments are needed. It is a pretty thick clay).

I will probably need to start talking with some growers who know in-ground.
I would LOVE to do GeoFlora topdress, except it is an arm and a leg to fly it in here.
It is a farm setup, so they will want to think cheap.
The easy thing might just be to make sure they prep the planting holes good, and then tell them to topdress with Dude's Terp Tea Bloom (and let it go at that).
I have lots of neem oil I can give them for the vegetative phase.
They are supposed to finish with it in about a month.

 

[cbdhemp808]

Hahaha, you could probably stick a 2x4 in the ground in Hawaii, and it might grow!

I would say with most of the local shrubs and trees, you can actually cut off a branch, stick it in the ground, and it would grow. Even just a branch pruned from a tree and fallen on the ground and forgotten... come back a while later and it will be sprouting.

I was thinking that Type 1 (all-THC) is more likely to "disappear" than type 2 (1:1).

Only if they somehow knew what you were growing, because ya basically can't tell just by looking at the buds. Same even for type 3. If a thief just happened to also be an experienced grower of all 1, 2, 3 chemotypes, maybe, just maybe, he could differentiate type 1 and 2 from type 3... sometimes.

 

[InTheShed]

I find some varieties will root in a cup of water and some won't. Most of mine will root in perlite but it can take a month before they're ready to plant.

I want to read up about silver thiosulfate tomorrow also, so I can make seeds on one branch each.
They will not let me ship any seeds out of the country without expensive licenses, so I just need to make seeds for personal storage, and In case the clones do not work.
What do I do, sacrifice a small cola that gets good light? Or do I spray a small twig?
I think the goal would be to get about 20 good seeds per plant or so.

Most folks will just spray a lower healthy branch to make it easier to get the pollen off without affecting the rest of the plant growing for flowers.

Are you planning on using the pollen from the plant to seed the rest of the plant or a different plant?

 

[CBDMed]

I find some varieties will root in a cup of water and some won't. Most of mine will root in perlite but it can take a month before they're ready to plant.

Yeah, I am just bumming because my second-generation of perlite cups are damping off below the waterline.
I have a new "third generation" of cups that is indoors.
I plan to take them down to the sink to change out their liquid every three days.
I hope they make it! So far only the three latest "third generation" are left. Everyone seems to be damping off.

Well, maybe I need to try putting the stem at or just above the waterline again?
Would that slow up the dampening off?
I do not understand why the plants would not be happy in a cup with perlite and light fertigation water changed out every three days.

Most folks will just spray a lower healthy branch to make it easier to get the pollen off without affecting the rest of the plant growing for flowers.

Thank you!!
That is the answer I needed.

Are you planning on using the pollen from the plant to seed the rest of the plant or a different plant?

I am not sure, I need to research it. I think for the colloidal silver you had to spray one plant and use it on another plant, is that how you do it with silver thiosulfate as well? (No self-pollination?)

 

[InTheShed]

I am not sure, I need to research it. I think for the colloidal silver you had to spray one plant and use it on another plant, is that how you do it with silver thiosulfate as well? (No self-pollination?)

If you spray the whole plant then it's only for pollen, but as long as you only apply it to one branch (and cover the rest when you spray with some sort of barrier) the rest should be smokeable. Another reason to go for a lower branch. Nothing with silver on it should be consumed.

Also, the soil needs to be covered when spraying STS, so I just punch a hole in the middle of a paper plant and cut a slit to it to use when I spray. Once the leaves are dry I remove it.

 

[Azimuth]

Yeah, I am just bumming because my second-generation of perlite cups are damping off below the waterline.

I don't have a water line in mine. I use well hydrated perlite but drain holes in the cup.

 

[CBDMed]

I don't have a water line in mine. I use well hydrated perlite but drain holes in the cup.

Wow. Ok. And then you mist??
And how long does it take you that way?

 

[InTheShed]

I don't have a water line in mine. I use well hydrated perlite but drain holes in the cup.

How often do you run water through to keep it "well hydrated"?

 

[Azimuth]

Wow. Ok. And then you mist??
And how long does it take you that way?

I see roots at the cup sides on 10-14 days typically. I put multiple cuts in a cup, like 8-10 and there's always a range of roots, some great, some even without. I usually give them two more weeks to flesh out the roots a bit more before potting.

The best one or two get potted up, the rest go to the worms.

 

[CBDMed]

If you spray the whole plant then it's only for pollen, but as long as you only apply it to one branch (and cover the rest when you spray with some sort of barrier) the rest should be smokeable. Another reason to go for a lower branch. Nothing with silver on it should be consumed.

Also, the soil needs to be covered when spraying STS, so I just punch a hole in the middle of a paper plant and cut a slit to it to use when I spray. Once the leaves are dry I remove it.

Asesome, thanks!
I planted two or more of everything, but it is the tropics, seeds happen.
Some of the girls I only have one of. However, it would be great to take seeds, because they were very robust in veg. And I want seeds for sure on the sativas.
Cookies and Cream 1:1 is good for seeds either sativa or indica, because it is mold resistant.
I am really waiting to see which of these Indica's survive.
If a given strain makes it through flower, then I want to keep the seeds. But if it does not make it through flower, then we will forget that strain and move on.

 

[Azimuth]

How often do you run water through to keep it "well hydrated"?

Maybe once a week. I think some dry down is helpful in springing new roots to go looking for water.

What I don't want is for tender new roots to dry out as they'd die. So, it's a balance.

I mist the leaves twice a day though and some of that ends up dripping into the perlite along the way.

 

[CBDMed]

OK, I thought if I'm going to put those cuttings in perlite I'd better do it now while they're still young. (I think they are only one day old.)
I have 3 cups that I started using the Bluter method, and I will try to follow that regimen. They were cut and then put in a Blacher cup in a second floor room where the temperature is fairly constant. It is not super warm, but it's not cold either. Maybe 71 or 72 Fahrenheit.

I have these other cuttings, and if they do not always root in water either, then I thought I should drill some holes in the bottom of some solo cups so that water does not stand in the bottom.

Then I put in a thin layer of perlite to hold the stems just above the drain line, in case it is standing water that is a problem in my environment.
I tried to space them a little bit with my free hand, not super successfully but space depart a little bit, and then just backfilled with wet perlite. And then tap to settle everything, and drain off any excess water.

I hope I do it correctly. If it is not then it is seeds. Here it is with the three existing ones from the Bluter method.

Now mist them twice a day?
Then I put in a thin layer of perlite to hold the stems just above the drain line, in case it is standing water that is a problem in my environment.
I tried to space them a little bit with my free hand, not super successfully but space depart a little bit, and then just backfilled with wet perlite.
I hope I do it correctly. If it is not then it is seeds.
Do you use soap at all? Or just BTI water?

 

[Azimuth]

Now mist them twice a day?

Yes, that's what I do.

 

[RhastaBlasta]

OK, I thought if I'm going to put those cuttings in perlite I'd better do it now while they're still young. (I think they are only one day old.)
I have 3 cups that I started using the Bluter method, and I will try to follow that regimen. They were cut and then put in a Blacher cup in a second floor room where the temperature is fairly constant. It is not super warm, but it's not cold either. Maybe 71 or 72 Fahrenheit.

I have these other cuttings, and if they do not always root in water either, then I thought I should drill some holes in the bottom of some solo cups so that water does not stand in the bottom.

Then I put in a thin layer of perlite to hold the stems just above the drain line, in case it is standing water that is a problem in my environment.
I tried to space them a little bit with my free hand, not super successfully but space depart a little bit, and then just backfilled with wet perlite. And then tap to settle everything, and drain off any excess water.

I hope I do it correctly. If it is not then it is seeds. Here it is with the three existing ones from the Bluter method.

Now mist them twice a day?
Then I put in a thin layer of perlite to hold the stems just above the drain line, in case it is standing water that is a problem in my environment.
I tried to space them a little bit with my free hand, not super successfully but space depart a little bit, and then just backfilled with wet perlite.
I hope I do it correctly. If it is not then it is seeds.
Do you use soap at all? Or just BTI water?

Gotta be careful with dem roots once you transplant

 

[CBDMed]

Gotta be careful with dem roots once you transplant

Hi Ras!
I'm just trying to get them to give me some roots! They all keep dying on me!

 

[CBDMed]

It's just insane how big how fast these Afghan mass XXL autos get (foreground)!
I planted them like a month after the shorter Indica photos and they are already taller!