Slimm's Urban Hang Suite

Everything sounds awesome there. The extractions stuff is super interesting. Don't blow yourself up. Sounds very good though. I have a friend who's not afraid to do that stuff and he has brought over some treats!

And big grats on having the room dialed in sufficiently to take a break! I've not quite reached that point in my room. Soon I hope.

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Thanks for the update Slimm, sounds like everything is cruising right along! I'll second Papa's comment about not blowing yourself up during resin extraction. Just saw a story on the news where a couple guys literally blew up a shed they were working in, and they're both in very bad shape. Be very, very careful.

And a thought about getting the plants to finish: if you're running out of patience I've had good luck with shortening the lights-on period down to 10 hours on/14 off. I did it over 4 days, half an hour a day, and the plants responded right away with lots of amber trichs. Other tactics include reducing humidity and increasing the spread between day and night temps but neither of these seemed to have as significant effect as reducing the hours of light they get. Of course, your milage may vary.

Looking forward to the harvest pics!
 
I did want to point out here that GH Bloom is not considered a complete nutrient mix. Go to this page and at the bottom, there is a calculator that will spell out what of each nute is in the Flora Series. Just click the button (GH Bloom).

CannaStats - Nutrient Profiles for Cannabis

Micro is included normally which makes up the "Lucas Formula". If you want a single bottle nutrient, I have read that the GH FloraNova Bloom contains everything needed but can be a pain to work with due to the product's consistency. That is why I feel that GH Flora nutes are the easiest to use and obtain great results; though it will require both bloom and micro.
 
Munki said:
I did want to point out here that GH Bloom is not considered a complete nutrient mix. Go to this page and at the bottom, there is a calculator that will spell out what of each nute is in the Flora Series. Just click the button (GH Bloom).

CannaStats - Nutrient Profiles for Cannabis

Micro is included normally which makes up the "Lucas Formula". If you want a single bottle nutrient, I have read that the GH FloraNova Bloom contains everything needed but can be a pain to work with due to the product's consistency. That is why I feel that GH Flora nutes are the easiest to use and obtain great results; though it will require both bloom and micro.
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While everything you say above is accurate, if I'm not mistaken, Slimm is using controled release ferts as base nutes.....Osmocote. So the bloom is a supplemental.
 
You are right DocBud on the nutes. Looking at the Bloom profile, it does supply a Mg component, so if there is an apparent Mg deficiency, I would surmise that it is being bound by another element like Calcium. It isn't a dominant element in Osmocote, but maybe some of the time released forms bind to the active Mg ions in the GH Bloom. Just a guess.
 
slimm said:
Coco is hanging on to them. It has a strong affinity for Mg and an even stronger affinity for Ca.
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Coco has a special chemistry, doesn't it?!? Takes some time to master I bet but rewards the patient grower.
 
I'm not an expert on coco but here are my observations. Coco presents a few interesting challenges to the grower - all are easily dealt with. One is it provides an ideal environment for fungus gnats whose larvae love to eat roots. Gnatrol is very safe, effective and natural control for fungus gnats.

Coco comes from places near the sea where it gets loaded up with sea salts. Unless you buy a high end brand like Canna, you will need to rinse the salt out. Use a TDS meter to know when you are done.

New coco needs to be loaded with nutrients before you put it into use. Since coco really likes to hang on to Ca and Mg (Ca more than Mg) be sure to charge it up with some additional CaMg. Depending on the strain you may need to continue CaMg through out the grow. Some strains only require extra Mg so use epsom salts for that instead of CaMg. Target ph should be 5.5 - 6.0 however you can manage the Ca / Mg balance by adjusting ph. Lower than 5.8, coco tends to give up more Ca. Above 5.8 it gives up more Mg.

Once coco becomes Mg deficient it is hard to get the media balanced again and continued Mg supplementation will be necessary through out the entire life cycle of the plants.

Rather than flushing, coco works better when it not allowed to completely dry out between waterings. Coco takes on a lighter hue when it is dry. Use this visual cue to know that it is probably time to water - you generally do not want to see much of the lighter hue. Coco is very light weight so lifting the pot is an easy way to gauge moisture content.

Coco can be treated like soil or hydro with respect to watering frequency, just do not try to bridge the two with semi-frequent waterings. Either use a wet / dry cycle as in soil or use a regular hydro watering style. There is no need to drench the top of the media unless you are trying to get transplants to develop air roots (top 1/3 of the root structure). In fact its better to drip in one spot or bottom water and let the media and the plants distribute the water and nutrients.
 
Found a male flower sticking out of a cola today. I'm a week away from chop and I had planned to reveg this plant as a mom.

So, I'm looking for recommendations. Obviously seeded buds are not an issue at this late stage. How should I handle the male flower(s)? Cut them off and ignore them? Can I still reveg and use this plant as a mom or will the clones always give me hermies?
 
Personally, I wouldn't call that a "hermie."

I'd call it survival mechanism and use the pollen to make fem seeds.

some will disagree, no doubt, but it seems like most female plants will do that in response to stress, and maybe that plant needs less bloom time than the others.

would be interesting to see how the trichs are on that plant in comparison to the others.


thanks for sharing your coco knowledge! cut and pasted into my ongoing 420 file ;)
 
Thanks so much Slimm - your coco brain dump is exactly what I was hoping for. I know you described earlier in this journal how you do your bottom-watering method. It didn't make sense then but I think I understand better now. Info to save, for sure!

About the male flower, I'm with SS - I wouldn't call it a hermie. I had a hermie in my last grow and it showed signs of male flowers 4 weeks in to 12/12. I just plucked 'em off and no harm done. If you like everything else about that plant I think she'd be good cloning stock.
 
Well the girls are using less water, growth is slowing and trichomes are at about 10% amber. As soon as I get more amber trichomes I will cut the lights for 36 hours and chop them. Here's a photo of one of my babies. They are short - I'm learning the strain - next time I will let them veg a little longer.

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A few close ups - still no tripod so images are not great.

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Almost harvest time! :yahoo:
 
Hogdady said:
Great pics Slimm! A trichome forest :)
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Thanks Hogdady. I have been having a nice time in that forest! Been pulling a few buds, giving them a two day cure and sampling. So far the smoke is really good for the level of doneness and cure. I think this will be some great smoke - not a bit of harshness and great high. The Jillybean is very up and happy, the EllEssDee is more narcotic and good for nighttime. The only complaint I have is that the plants do not smell all that strong and neither does the cure. Next time out I will be experimenting with a few amendments that I think are going to enhance terpene production.

Setting Sun said:
Very nice, looks like you're getting things dialed in.

happy harvesting bro ;)
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Thanks SS.

It does seem that I have it under control now. This can only mean that it's time to move into a larger space and dial that one in. :) My current space is 6 x 10 and is quite warm all year. The new space consists of a 10 x 15 room and an adjoining 10 x 10. These rooms are much more comfortable temp wise. The ceiling height is about 15 feet so I may grow a monster sativa or two. I'm going to go with a couple of 1k lights for flower in the big room and use the smaller room for veg and supplies. The flower room is going to be set up vertically with 2 - 3 tiers of plants. Buckets will either be 2.5 gal bato buckets or 5 gal homer buckets set up as hempies. Medium will be 70 / 20 perlite / coco. These hempy buckets will be modified to have a removable nutrient charge and a watering tube to facilitate bottom up watering. I will post a write up with picks soon as some have expressed interest.
Time to: :rollit:
 
wow, your new digs sounds great!

15' ceiling?

nice timing with some breeders reintroducing stuff like Columbian Red and Acapulco Gold :ganjamon:

70/20 perlite/coco, OK, what's the other 10%, or are you rollin' one just like the other one? lol

love your hempy mods, can't wait to see them. Have you ever seen the self-watering pots they have at Wally World under the "Misco" label?

They are very easy to bottom water and I've seen some nice plants grown in them. They keep the roots out of the res and so maybe the prills would work better in that setup with bottom-watering?

rock on slimm ;)
 
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