Slimm's Urban Hang Suite

[slimm]

wow, your new digs sounds great!

15' ceiling?

nice timing with some breeders reintroducing stuff like Columbian Red and Acapulco Gold

70/20 perlite/coco, OK, what's the other 10%, or are you rollin' one just like the other one? lol

love your hempy mods, can't wait to see them. Have you ever seen the self-watering pots they have at Wally World under the "Misco" label?

They are very easy to bottom water and I've seen some nice plants grown in them. They keep the roots out of the res and so maybe the prills would work better in that setup with bottom-watering?

rock on slimm

I think I was delirious with anticipation! 80 / 20 is what I was thinking.
Buckets, all kinds of them... I have been surprised by the number of hempy like products entering the home gardening market. I have not tried the Misco pots but it seems like they may keep more water in the reservoir than hempies which allow more media in the reservoir. It's nice that you can look right into the Misco reservoir. Seems like they might work well for ganga.

I use bato buckets for cannabis because they are square, they have a notch for the drain, and they are the perfect size (unless growing trees). For house plants I like these because they have a more spill-proof reservoir. They are cheap, look nice and come in many shapes, sizes and colors. Those smart-pot-hempy hybrids I created for a few of my plants are working quite well. I lift the pot and if there is no water sitting in the res then I water them the next day. For outdoors I like the 200 gallon smart pots but have not had the pleasure of working with them yet.

 

[Setting Sun]

Actually, the brand I was thinking of for those self-watering pots is "Mainstays", not Misco, but both companies are carried by Walmart.

I got 10 used bato buckets on ebay including the elbows, so those are an option too. The dude selling them forgot to peel off some labels that said stuff like "grandaddy purps" and "n.y. diesel", lol.

The 200gal smart pots would cost a lot to fill with pretty much anything except real dirt, lol.

 

[slimm]

Actually, the brand I was thinking of for those self-watering pots is "Mainstays", not Misco, but both companies are carried by Walmart.

I got 10 used bato buckets on ebay including the elbows, so those are an option too. The dude selling them forgot to peel off some labels that said stuff like "grandaddy purps" and "n.y. diesel", lol.

The 200gal smart pots would cost a lot to fill with pretty much anything except real dirt, lol.

Lol, that's funny that the labels were left on the batos you bought. They may use them for house plants in Europe but I bet no one uses them for anything but cannabis in the states.

The Mainstay buckets are the same as Misco. I would cover the reservoir opening with a flap of panda film to keep light out. I wonder if the ice cream cone shape is good or bad for cannabis. It may be good; more room up top where it is needed for lots of air roots. I may buy a couple and try them.

Yeah it would cost around 250 bucks to fill one with #4 perlite; 7 x 4 cu foot bags at 36 bucks per bag. I'm not sure that is very expensive given that one 200 gallon pot can produce 10 pounds or so. I will be using real soil for those large smarts - I have no problems with soil, as long as it is kept outside where it belongs.

 

[slimm]

The hardest part of cannabis growing...

...waiting for them to finish.

These plants are pumping out more trichomes. They look done. One of them has about 5 male flowers just barely showing. Leaves are curling and drying up. Growth has nearly stalled. Calyx are becoming swollen. Hardly any water being taken up. Pistils are browning.

Yet there are still only a few amber trichomes: 5% - 10% is an aggressive estimate. Tomorrow if I can, I will post some trichome pics.

 

[Setting Sun]

hmmmmmm, what are you thinking of giving more credence to, the trichs or all the other signs of the plants being done?

I guess unless you're aiming for a head high, waiting a bit longer wouldn't compromise anything.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

These hempy buckets will be modified to have a removable nutrient charge and a watering tube to facilitate bottom up watering. I will post a write up with picks soon as some have expressed interest.
Time to:

Slimm, bring it on

I am very interested in your removable nute charge. I'm using Osmocoat, but it would be nice to be able to get it out if I had to... especially for finishing.

And, 15' ceilings, whoa I could garden wearing my drywall stilts <G>

 

[slimm]

hmmmmmm, what are you thinking of giving more credence to, the trichs or all the other signs of the plants being done?

I guess unless you're aiming for a head high, waiting a bit longer wouldn't compromise anything.

Well SS it's been a stressful week and I saw 5 or 6 new male flowers and freaked out =) I went out, had a couple beers after and a smoke and I feel better about life now.


I will let them go longer. Actually I'm only seeing amber on some of the leaves, the trichomes on the calyx are all still looking pretty white.

One of my plants is not like the others. My Jillybean plants all smell like a mixture of melons, and oranges or lemons. I suspect one of these may not be a JB at all. It has different bud structure; wide at the top and fox tailing rather than spear shaped, a little sparser on trichomes, instead of fruit it smells like greasy fried chicken! It sounds weird but I kinda like the smell. I'm really curios how this one cures and how it will smoke - I have not tried any of it yet. Anyway, this is the only one that has the male flowers. I figure it has to be a bean from another strain that accidentally found its way into my order. The first two pics on this post are the fried chicken pheno, if anyone wants to see it =)

420 mag needs to implement "smell-o-vision"!

I'm still wondering though, at what point are male flowers on a female plant in late harvest considered a problem? Could this have an effect on potency? They definitely detract from "bag appeal" lol.

 

[slimm]

Slimm, bring it on

I am very interested in your removable nute charge. I'm using Osmocote, but it would be nice to be able to get it out if I had to... especially for finishing.

And, 15' ceilings, whoa I could garden wearing my drywall stilts <G>

I will - I'll shoot for next week on this. Otherwise it will be a few since I am traveling in July and I have lots of work to get done between now and then.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

I will - I'll shoot for next week on this. Otherwise it will be a few since I am traveling in July and I have lots of work to get done between now and then.

Great, I'll keep checking in

 

[Setting Sun]

I'm still wondering though, at what point are male flowers on a female plant in late harvest considered a problem? Could this have an effect on potency? They definitely detract from "bag appeal" lol.

Nothin' wrong with the smell of greasy fried chicken, maybe the strain is KFC, lol.

Personally, and I'm sure others will disagree, a few male flowers *late* in harvest would not be something I would consider a "problem."

In my experience, even seeding a bud lightly has had no discernible effect on potency, and if the plant with the few male flowers had genetics I liked, I would consider the flowers a gift, collect them, and use the pollen to make fem seeds by pollinating the plant or making a cross.

Depends on the level of stress it took for the plant to display the trait. If I thought it was a survival response, I would consider the pollen as valuable as gold dust .

On the other hand, if it didn't seem all that much a late bloom, desperate last ditch attempt at survival, I wouldn't want to grow any more fried chicken, lol.

 

[slimm]

Probably stress. I have had my cooling breaker pop a few times resulting in 100 degree temps for an hour or two at a time recently. The fried chicken probably thought it was going back into the fryer!

I see a few more amber heads here and there on all the plants so progress is being made. That said, the fried chicken started stacking more flowers this morning. I figure they must have stalled a few days due to the stressors and now they are over it back to the normal program. Everything makes sense to me now.

I have not gotten this far, in this good shape with previous grows, so I'm a little reactive. I'm sure if the plants could talk they would probably tell me to quit all the fussing and let them do thier thing!

Thanks for all your comments SS.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

In my experience, even seeding a bud lightly has had no discernible effect on potency, and if the plant with the few male flowers had genetics I liked, I would consider the flowers a gift, collect them, and use the pollen to make fem seeds by pollinating the plant or making a cross.

Depends on the level of stress it took for the plant to display the trait. If I thought it was a survival response, I would consider the pollen as valuable as gold dust .

On the other hand, if it didn't seem all that much a late bloom, desperate last ditch attempt at survival, I wouldn't want to grow any more fried chicken, lol.

SS, does all hermi pollen produce femmed seeds, or just one that shows late and a little?

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Probably stress. I have had my cooling breaker pop a few times resulting in 100 degree temps for an hour or two at a time recently. The fried chicken probably thought it was going back into the fryer!

Slimm, what kind of breakers are tripping? The new arc fault type are exceptionally sketchy, and some GFIs fail regularly. None of them are made to last forever.

I hadn't thought about it before, but that could be a real problem. Do you know how to swap them out? Keep one hand in your pocket

 

[Munki]

You have some cute little plants slimm. They look yummy! Sorry to hear about the high heat.

 

[slimm]

Beating the heat

You have some cute little plants slimm. They look yummy! Sorry to hear about the high heat.

Slimm, what kind of breakers are tripping? The new arc fault type are exceptionally sketchy, and some GFIs fail regularly. None of them are made to last forever.

I hadn't thought about it before, but that could be a real problem. Do you know how to swap them out? Keep one hand in your pocket

It tripped today again so I shut down the room and put the plants in my new room in front of a window for now. I'll deal with setting up the space with them in it; had planned to set it up after this harvest. It is tripping due to high heat in my current room. I'm not sure exactly why and I don't plan to think about. I'm done with that space!


I'm seeing a bit more amber today. It could be because I used a LED flashlight with my 30x loop. I need to get one of those eyeclopse gadgets.

 

[Setting Sun]

SS, does all hermi pollen produce femmed seeds, or just one that shows late and a little?

Well, again, I wouldn't call a plant that produced a few male flowers late in bloom a "hermie", but I think the answer is yes and no, plants that hermie early and with little or no stress produce pollen that will produce fem seeds, but the "fem" seeds have a strong chance of being hermies also, so the pollen and genetics would not be desirable.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Well, again, I wouldn't call a plant that produced a few male flowers late in bloom a "hermie", but I think the answer is yes and no, plants that hermie early and with little or no stress produce pollen that will produce fem seeds, but the "fem" seeds have a strong chance of being hermies also, so the pollen and genetics would not be desirable.

Gotcha, I've some some Jamaican babies I wouldn't mind getting some fem seeds out of. Might try to make a solitary confinement stress box LOL

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Re: Beating the heat

It tripped today again so I shut down the room and put the plants in my new room in front of a window for now. I'll deal with setting up the space with them in it; had planned to set it up after this harvest. It is tripping due to high heat in my current room. I'm not sure exactly why and I don't plan to think about. I'm done with that space!


I'm seeing a bit more amber today. It could be because I used a LED flashlight with my 30x loop. I need to get one of those eyeclopse gadgets.

Heat could. Overloading is usually the culprit, tho... movin' on is a pretty good fix LOL

 

[Munki]

I was reading in another thread from a member named "mule" that house circuit breakers trip when the wire they protect heat up to about 194 degrees F. Maybe the wires are getting overloaded and in turn overheated?

 

[slimm]

The room I was growing in has a wall to the sun until early afternoon and there is almost no insulation - it gets hot. Since it is such a small room, there is no buffer, so as soon as the AC cools it the sun warms it again and the compressor runs perpetually. The AC iced up a bit which created a huge load on the compressor motor and heated the wire which popped the breaker. This is all in theory anyway.

My new, larger space has more buffering capacity to it than the old room - it has 4 or 5 times the volume, and the room is always in the shade, the ceiling is about 15 feet high and I have my air exhaust at the top where the hot air is. Sounds perfect to me! I may be able to forgo the cool tubes and idle the AC.

Anyone have experience they want to share on ozone generators? I am thinking of venting my exhaust air into a storage room set up with an ozone generator. The room has a window which can be left open so the ozonated air is removed from the building. Risk of ozone in the grow room is mitigated with a reverse flow damper (or whatever that gadget is called) on the grow room air exhaust duct. Does this sound like a good idea? Are these things effective? Are they safe? What are the gotchas?