Dankman_420
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Here's my Chernobyl and the old seeds. Hopefully I get a decent male. If they germinate 
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Jackalope
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Is anyone here reading that has Chocolate Critical? I know some were sent out I just forgot who got them.
These plants are looking so good. I think I am going to be able to give this hybrid a thumbs up. With everything I know about both strains I can't see things going too wrong at this point. I still have hermies to worry about. What I don't have to worry about is growth. There is hybrid vigor just like there should be. I am seeing 2 different pheno's so far. Short and tall. The tall pheno is as tall as the Liberty Haze now and those plants are 2 weeks older. All plants have good internode spacing even the taller one.
T2 is a great plant also. One big thing that is confusing me a little. Mother plants carry plant structure for the most part. That falls right in line with the hybrid of Tangilope x Tahoe Og female I have. It looks just like Tangilope did. T2 looks different. It looks a lot like the male JC 2 I used to pollinate Tangilope. I am not sure if this means JC 2 was very dominate or not. I know I am seeing a few weird leaves and polyploidal traits that Jack the Ripper had. I love learning new things about growing and breeding. I am pretty sure T2 and Tangilope are going to teach me something. I sure hope I realize it when it happens LMAO.
These plants are looking so good. I think I am going to be able to give this hybrid a thumbs up. With everything I know about both strains I can't see things going too wrong at this point. I still have hermies to worry about. What I don't have to worry about is growth. There is hybrid vigor just like there should be. I am seeing 2 different pheno's so far. Short and tall. The tall pheno is as tall as the Liberty Haze now and those plants are 2 weeks older. All plants have good internode spacing even the taller one.
T2 is a great plant also. One big thing that is confusing me a little. Mother plants carry plant structure for the most part. That falls right in line with the hybrid of Tangilope x Tahoe Og female I have. It looks just like Tangilope did. T2 looks different. It looks a lot like the male JC 2 I used to pollinate Tangilope. I am not sure if this means JC 2 was very dominate or not. I know I am seeing a few weird leaves and polyploidal traits that Jack the Ripper had. I love learning new things about growing and breeding. I am pretty sure T2 and Tangilope are going to teach me something. I sure hope I realize it when it happens LMAO.
Good observations Jack.
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Jackalope
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Are you going to regenerate her Dankman? If so then you could mother it, clone it. and work on it a few ways. Selfing it would be one of those choices. That plant looks good enough to carry any male rather well. TGA is another of the people that has solid enough genetics to do random breeding with. With Jack the Ripper and Space Queen being the minimum for what could come through in males. Plus a huge upside if you get a great male.
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I'm hoping to get a male and do a open pollination in a spare bathroom I have. It has no heat ducts and it's really small. Seems like a good spot to control the pollen. If it doesn't work out I will try sts maybe
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Jackalope
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Be careful going from one place to another. That and don't worry about a few extra seeds where they are not supposed to be. As long as there is not tons your good.
That is how I ended up with T2. If I would have known how much I was going to like Tangilope I would have pollinated a whole branch with the JC 2 male. Like a Idiot I decided not to. I took my time to decide not too LMAO. Even though I pollinated 5 other plants . I missed the best one.
Because of being sloppy I now have about 8 T2 seeds.
That is how I ended up with T2. If I would have known how much I was going to like Tangilope I would have pollinated a whole branch with the JC 2 male. Like a Idiot I decided not to. I took my time to decide not too LMAO. Even though I pollinated 5 other plants . I missed the best one.
Because of being sloppy I now have about 8 T2 seeds.
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Jackalope
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Holy Grail is coming!!!!! That's great. I never knew how much I wanted it till I looked at it when checking for replacements LOL. Everything should be on its way by the end of the day. The UK order is the only one that may not be here by the time I start new seeds. They have a month to get here. There is a good chances I will have everything here to choose from when I do.
Good thing I have plenty choices. I have no idea of what I am going to start yet. Only thing I know for sure. They all are going to be strong. Crown Royal will still top the list if I grow a regular strain. I just don't know if I am going to do a regular strain. I should I know. I really want male pollen of some kind for the 2 The New plants I am planning. I plan to try something with every single seed of this hybrid just in case.
I have not grown Blueberry in years. Lots of hybrids of it but never the real deal. Plus when I did grow it it probably wasn't DJ Shorts Blueberry. That is why the Crown Royal has so much appeal. They talk more of the Blueberry coming through in the hybrid than the G.G. #4. Because of this I am looking at this hybrid as a Blueberry and a indica. I hope the G.G.#4 shines through and brings more THC. Other than that all this hybrid needs to be is Blueberry.
I know only one thing for sure. I ordered too many different strains and have made choosing quite difficult LMAO. I can't get them all in the line up no matter what I do.
Good thing I have plenty choices. I have no idea of what I am going to start yet. Only thing I know for sure. They all are going to be strong. Crown Royal will still top the list if I grow a regular strain. I just don't know if I am going to do a regular strain. I should I know. I really want male pollen of some kind for the 2 The New plants I am planning. I plan to try something with every single seed of this hybrid just in case.
I have not grown Blueberry in years. Lots of hybrids of it but never the real deal. Plus when I did grow it it probably wasn't DJ Shorts Blueberry. That is why the Crown Royal has so much appeal. They talk more of the Blueberry coming through in the hybrid than the G.G. #4. Because of this I am looking at this hybrid as a Blueberry and a indica. I hope the G.G.#4 shines through and brings more THC. Other than that all this hybrid needs to be is Blueberry.
I know only one thing for sure. I ordered too many different strains and have made choosing quite difficult LMAO. I can't get them all in the line up no matter what I do.
I’ve grown DJ Blueberry and it didn’t have blueberry anything! Lol
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Jackalope
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New update from minutes ago. Looks like the UK order should make it. The method I choose ended up being their fastest shipping. I choose it because they guaranty delivery. Fast is cool too LMAO.
For fun let me see if I can pick a line up.
The New, Humboldt
Holy Grail Kush, DNA
Bag of Oranges, Useful Seeds
Ghost Train Haze, Rare Dankness
Blue Fire, Humboldt or Barney's Farm
Crown Royal, Second Generation.
I wasn't going to use the C.R. on this list. It made it back in on its own merit. I needed indica and berry. This works for both. I am also going to try and not grow 2 by the same breeder. The Blue Fire could be changes easily depending on who made it.
For fun let me see if I can pick a line up.
The New, Humboldt
Holy Grail Kush, DNA
Bag of Oranges, Useful Seeds
Ghost Train Haze, Rare Dankness
Blue Fire, Humboldt or Barney's Farm
Crown Royal, Second Generation.
I wasn't going to use the C.R. on this list. It made it back in on its own merit. I needed indica and berry. This works for both. I am also going to try and not grow 2 by the same breeder. The Blue Fire could be changes easily depending on who made it.
Looks like a solid line up, GTH is an excellent sativa
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Jackalope
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The Blueberry part is not really what I am looking for. If I get Blueberry flavor fine. I do know that the strain itself adds good flavors. I like all the flavors from Blueberry hybrids that I have grown so far. It is also a good indica. I do tend to like Purps over Blueberry. I am hoping that will change this time. If not no big deal as I know the Blueberry part will bring the indica. I guess what I'm saying is there is a pretty good chance this hybrid won't suck LOL.
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Jackalope
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I was wondering how to grade that one Pennywise. I have smoked it before but that was years ago. I was pretty sure that pheno I smoked was in the hybrid range. That is a big thing. Too much sativa can be a problem.
That is also why I dropped the Strawberry Lemonade. I am pretty sure the Bag of Oranges is going to be sativa. The Thing I don't know is how good these genetics are. I have never run Useful genetics. That helps keep it on the sativa side. Strains that are not very strong end up being in the daytime smoke pile.
How up the high from Ghost Train Haze is going to matter in the end.
That is also why I dropped the Strawberry Lemonade. I am pretty sure the Bag of Oranges is going to be sativa. The Thing I don't know is how good these genetics are. I have never run Useful genetics. That helps keep it on the sativa side. Strains that are not very strong end up being in the daytime smoke pile.
How up the high from Ghost Train Haze is going to matter in the end.
It’s a very clear up high, just a slight indica body to it. Good day time med.
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Jackalope
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Great. It is always nice when a Haze acts like a Haze LOL. Haze is another name they throw out there to impress people. The world would be a much better place if Haze's were haze Og's were Og and of course Kush should be Kush LMAO.
I know but everyone is out to try and make a buck.
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I have a question about LED lights. Like I mentioned the single light doesn't seem too bright. Plants are growing good so far. Last night my plants were 15" from the light. I left it as is because I was actually wanting to lower it some.
Internode spacing in that tent are extremely short on both plants. I am pretty sure the light is not too high just because of that fact. The dealer said 18" for flower. For no other reason than my brain is telling me that isn't enough light. I keep wanting to lower it.
Any suggestions?
Internode spacing in that tent are extremely short on both plants. I am pretty sure the light is not too high just because of that fact. The dealer said 18" for flower. For no other reason than my brain is telling me that isn't enough light. I keep wanting to lower it.
Any suggestions?
I’d just let the plant grow up to the light.
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I mount my Timber cobs as high in my tent as possible, and let my girls grow to the light. Right now I have some SourBananaSherbF2’s that finished their stretch at about 12in from the light and are doing fine. No light stress or burn plus the nice part about Timber rigs is I can dim it down if their to close since my light can’t go up any higher. So you should be just fine at 16in, just keep an eye on them.
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Thanks guys. That will help a lot. I still have a couple inches to go up if I need.
Second seed order showed up. I got Cal-I Orange as freebies. At one time I would have been happy about this. I tried the C-99 from this company right before the real C-99. LMAO they were not even close. Not even the same strain as far as I can see. It even had a indica high. This is another company that sells their own strains. They sell that same crap C-99 that they gave me. Good thing I don't count on freebies or I would never use this company again. All other breeder packs from them have been fine so I will use them again.
Now on the good side. I found out the Gogi Og hybrids I got from JBC were made by a up and coming breeder. Great time to try them. If you are trying to build a reputation. I would guess you would start with pretty damn good genetics. The one that caught my eye was Agent Orange #2 x Gogi Og. I guess the guy is on IG @respectgenetics. I don't do the IG thing so I won't be able to check him out. Still this is a lot different than 3 crap female seeds. Lots of difference between the freebies from these 2 companies. Both orders were around $350
One sent 3 female seeds with their company name on them.
The other sent.
2 5 packs of regular hybrids from a new breeder. The one I mentioned earlier and a Blueberry Hash Plant #3 x Gogi Og
2 packs of Nor Cal regular Stardawg x Jesus Og.
Big difference between the 2. I got last years Snowdawg #3 from JBC. While I wasn't sure about this strain to start it smokes fine a did well.
Uk order has shipped. More freebies coming from them. Like JBC they tend to send freebies from known breeders. They listed the freebies that are on the way. They don't list them to start because their promo's change a lot. They give you the promo's for they day they ship the order. Here is what I got from a order over $500. DNA must have had a good promo. I got 4 free Kosher Kush female seeds. I would have been real happy if they weren't the freebie for Holy Grail Kush LMAO. They give it to me now that I order a stronger Kush lol. I also got 20 female Stardawg from Black Skull seeds.
What the hell is Stardawg? Why does everyone have some kind of seeds with that name? Must be good with all this hype.
I don't know anything about Black Skull. I will need to check into them. 20 female seeds sounds like a lot. Not really with as much as I spent. This company gave feminized strains under their name for a few years than stopped. These seeds were the same quality as the Southern Oregon Seeds free female seeds. These are the ones I saw the same traits as the S.O.S bad plants. I don't grow them anymore. Before that it was like it is now. Freebies came in breeder packs and you can check them out. They still might be crap but at least you can do some research on them.
Second seed order showed up. I got Cal-I Orange as freebies. At one time I would have been happy about this. I tried the C-99 from this company right before the real C-99. LMAO they were not even close. Not even the same strain as far as I can see. It even had a indica high. This is another company that sells their own strains. They sell that same crap C-99 that they gave me. Good thing I don't count on freebies or I would never use this company again. All other breeder packs from them have been fine so I will use them again.
Now on the good side. I found out the Gogi Og hybrids I got from JBC were made by a up and coming breeder. Great time to try them. If you are trying to build a reputation. I would guess you would start with pretty damn good genetics. The one that caught my eye was Agent Orange #2 x Gogi Og. I guess the guy is on IG @respectgenetics. I don't do the IG thing so I won't be able to check him out. Still this is a lot different than 3 crap female seeds. Lots of difference between the freebies from these 2 companies. Both orders were around $350
One sent 3 female seeds with their company name on them.
The other sent.
2 5 packs of regular hybrids from a new breeder. The one I mentioned earlier and a Blueberry Hash Plant #3 x Gogi Og
2 packs of Nor Cal regular Stardawg x Jesus Og.
Big difference between the 2. I got last years Snowdawg #3 from JBC. While I wasn't sure about this strain to start it smokes fine a did well.
Uk order has shipped. More freebies coming from them. Like JBC they tend to send freebies from known breeders. They listed the freebies that are on the way. They don't list them to start because their promo's change a lot. They give you the promo's for they day they ship the order. Here is what I got from a order over $500. DNA must have had a good promo. I got 4 free Kosher Kush female seeds. I would have been real happy if they weren't the freebie for Holy Grail Kush LMAO. They give it to me now that I order a stronger Kush lol. I also got 20 female Stardawg from Black Skull seeds.
What the hell is Stardawg? Why does everyone have some kind of seeds with that name? Must be good with all this hype.
I don't know anything about Black Skull. I will need to check into them. 20 female seeds sounds like a lot. Not really with as much as I spent. This company gave feminized strains under their name for a few years than stopped. These seeds were the same quality as the Southern Oregon Seeds free female seeds. These are the ones I saw the same traits as the S.O.S bad plants. I don't grow them anymore. Before that it was like it is now. Freebies came in breeder packs and you can check them out. They still might be crap but at least you can do some research on them.
Dankman_420
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Kosher kush AKA Jew gold is a solid strain. I'm on my 4th run of it crossed with tangie ( 24k gold ) . That's a great selection Jack 
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