Quest for 1G/W: 1K HPS Liquid Cooled on a 6' Mover in a 4x8 Tent

[StinkFinger]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Dude.

They really look Stellar!

Sure you don't want to bring the Wheel outta retirement.

Thumbs way up man!
Sf

 

[Setting Sun]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Very cool! Can't wait to see the second story plants .

That is such an efficient use of space. Only downside I can think of is losing some reflected light off the walls, but I'm sure that's *more* than offset by having all those extra plants in there.

Did you punch that hole in the side of the tent for the drain, or was it existing?

Bushmaster, whatever one thinks about it, appears to be very effective in the grows where I've seen it used. In a couple of grows I saw online where it was used in early veg, it produced very stacked, 6" tall, comical looking things . It really seems to stop them in their tracks used right before stretch, however.

Love your journals bro. You got me all motivated to go do some stuff in my room .

 

[OldMedMan]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Looking very good My Friend

I do think that bushmaster is probably gonna be used. They are looking for the ceiling.

 

[The Butcher]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

 

[WeedyMcWeedWeed]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Looking great wheelo. What's all the strains in this? Don't you have GWS? Can I see a close up??

 

[The Butcher]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Have you thought about getting a trellis for the plants. Your going to need it with those monsters. It will at the least keep them in line. I seriously can't wait to see that garden thriving.

 

[Propa Gator]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Not to do a tag team here but... My Cage is an extreme trellis. A key element.

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Dude.

They really look Stellar!
Sure you don't want to bring the Wheel outta retirement.
Thumbs way up man!
Sf

If only I had more room, I could take a hundred clones easy. The wheel would be up and rollin right now if I had the room. no doubt.

Very cool! Can't wait to see the second story plants .

That is such an efficient use of space. Only downside I can think of is losing some reflected light off the walls, but I'm sure that's *more* than offset by having all those extra plants in there.

Did you punch that hole in the side of the tent for the drain, or was it existing?

Bushmaster, whatever one thinks about it, appears to be very effective in the grows where I've seen it used. In a couple of grows I saw online where it was used in early veg, it produced very stacked, 6" tall, comical looking things . It really seems to stop them in their tracks used right before stretch, however.

Love your journals bro. You got me all motivated to go do some stuff in my room .

Thanks bro, I hope the second story makes it in, but i go to flower tomorrow and we'll see how tough the clones can be. . . not good roots on them, I know already. but sink or swim I can't wait any longer. I have the feeling that i didn't line this dual grow up very well time wise. Live and learn right? should have cloned 2 weeks earlier.

The Bushmaster says lots of people do it after the second week of flower so as to not eliminate the stretch, just end it early. . . if these girls get too unruly as I suspect they might, I might have to give it a shot. just know i veged too long already and didnt even switch yet. kicks ya right in the butt. If I use it, i'll do a foliar, not in the res. This way I can isolate the EnG plants and not the aero. Plus it's how I'd want to do it in the wheel and I want experience doing it that way so I can relate it across the board.

Yeah, I cut up my tent. not the first time either. I always plug any night time light leaks though with duct tape when I go into flower. just hasn't been a priority yet. I had an ac on the left, now its on the right, those are the other cuts I made.

Looking very good My Friend

I do think that bushmaster is probably gonna be used. They are looking for the ceiling.

Damn, OMM, i think your spot on. Well find out soon enough.

Looking great wheelo. What's all the strains in this? Don't you have GWS? Can I see a close up??

yeah, just Holy Shit (local) and Great White Shark (GHS). I don't know which is which yet, but they look and smell different in flower, so I'll be able to tell before too long.

Have you thought about getting a trellis for the plants. Your going to need it with those monsters. It will at the least keep them in line. I seriously can't wait to see that garden thriving.

hmm, i thought about a screen, and go scrog at the end here, but not anything vertical. . . I think, well, my hopes are, that it's so crowded in there they will just hold each other up because there wont be any room to flop over. . . I guess i'll just take it as it goes, I've never needed to stake them in the past. i'm not gonna scrog them. I have some 7" trellis on the right half of the walls for the aero, I need some more for the left side. dunno if I'll get any though.

hold on to your hat bro, I have the feeling they are gonna go wild over the next couple of weeks.

Not to do a tag team here but... My Cage is an extreme trellis. A key element.

Awesome prop, had I seen it earlier I would have joined the fun sooner. Lovin the high tech low tech aspect. A bee der.

 

[The Butcher]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

No matter what you do its going to be one green room.

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Finally a day to spend in the room.

ok, so i started a flush yesterday. I ran pure tap water today, tomorrow I will start adding connoisseur, carboload, piranha, tarantula, and Bud Factor X. maybe a little cal mag.

I put the clones into the aero. about 1/2 are showing nice roots and half are not. . . I put them all in, but I have a feeling at least 1/3 will not make it. thats fine anyways, I wouldn't mind every other in the aero.

I also took some clones for next run, and cleared out a bunch of underbrush. I know yous shouldn't top and then go right to flower, but i had to, so i took some of the tallest tops again to try to keep them under control. most of them came from the bottom though.

I had the light on 500w today, and removed the wing. Tomorrow I'll kick it up to 750w, and 1000w on Sunday. Tomorrow night will be the first 12 hour dark period, and off we go.

 

[The Butcher]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Your fine, I wouldn't stress the toping so close to flower. I've done it a bunch of times and the growth went straight to the side branches. Plus I even trim back on day 4 of flowering almost every run and you've seen my colas they are fine. Plus I gotta give you a pat on the back too, cause an even canopy means a better yield. And with the aero going, your ready afor take off.

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Your fine, I wouldn't stress the toping so close to flower. I've done it a bunch of times and the growth went straight to the side branches. Plus I even trim back on day 4 of flowering almost every run and you've seen my colas they are fine. Plus I gotta give you a pat on the back too, cause an even canopy means a better yield. And with the aero going, your ready for take off.

yes sir, today was day 45 of veg, and I advanced my timer's off cycle to 12/12. It would be nice to induce with a 36 hour dark period, but with the size of the clones, I don't think I will.

even if the majority of the Aero's die, due to my rush on them, it'll still be nice to run the 10 or so I think have a really good shot of surviving, just to get some experience with the aero, also to see what kind of numbers they will produce. I think any clones that make it through week 1 will have a fighting chance. . . some will be dropping like flies throughout the week though.

Pics in a few.

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

update:

this is the last day of veg. DAY 45 FINAL VEG. here are a couple of the EnG.

All Nice and trimmed up under the skirt:

what did i do with all that trim? glad you asked, the undesirable got tossed, some got:

I retired the fridge for the summer. i need all the juice for my main room. Designing a 3 stage setup for flower veg and clones. See if I can get a cycle going like McB, But not 1/2 and 1/2.

Here is what the clones looked like going into the AERO. I would say that about a dozen or so had roots this size or bigger. The rest had a root or two to nothing on them. I flushed the EnG for a day, and ran the aero with pure H20 for a day at 500w.
today i turned it up to 750 and upped the nutes to about 500 ppm above nominal tap. I will slowly kick it up all week till I at least get to half strength of the calculator.

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Here is the second tier. . .it's a raggety bunch to say the least. . . i expect half or less to make it.

a couple, like this one (A8), are already goners.

A24 A25 goners? not looking too good for them.

there are some nice ones along the wall.

added a little bit of noise back into the garden. at least it's good aeration. the aero is i guess aero/nft at the moment since it runs 24/7. I have a 300 gph and a 550gph pump on it now.

 

[LotzOfTrycs]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.



The aero is going!!!!!

 

[The Butcher]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

So its on from here on out. Let the countdown begin!! 1G or Bust

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

The aero is going!!!!!

Finally!!! seems like it took forever!

So its on from here on out. Let the countdown begin!! 1G or Bust

45 Days of veg, if I was all setup and on a cycle, i could have almost harvested in the veg time alone!! lol, I am realize how inadequate g/w might be at defining efficiency. g/w/time will be a more revealing stat.

1 g/w or bust though.

Feels good to finally have a harvest date zeroing in. Looking at July 10-11.

 

[TorturedSoul]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

I am realize how inadequate g/w might be at defining efficiency. g/w/time will be a more revealing stat.

I guess you could figure it thusly:
Efficiencycannabis = Grams in a year ÷ Total kWh used.

But that hardly seems fair to sativas.

It does, however, lend itself to figuring in things such as ballast losses, fans, pumps, timers, aeration devices, light movers, et cetera.

But... where do you insert gasoline for runs to the hydro store, shipping amounts, your labor, and all the rest?

Still want to define efficiency, lol?

Some people give up and go with the slightly simpler formula:
IF consumption < production THEN Efficiencycannabis = YES ELSE back to the drawing board

1 g/w or **** though.

<SHH!> Don't use that word, lol.

Wishing you continued good luck.

 

[WheeloFortune]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

I guess you could figure it thusly:
Efficiencycannabis = Grams in a year ÷ Total kWh used.

But that hardly seems fair to sativas.

that would be good for an annual efficiency report, but my grows are so different from run to run, the average probably would not reflect each grow or the over all efficiency of my room. . . that would be a great measure for someone like McBudz, whos on a nice consistent cycle.

It does, however, lend itself to figuring in things such as ballast losses, fans, pumps, timers, aeration devices, light movers, et cetera.

But... where do you insert gasoline for runs to the hydro store, shipping amounts, your labor, and all the rest?

well, i would put these under financial efficiency, not grow efficiency. Still important to any grower or business, but not exactly what I want to maximize. . . its like comparing printers, you have page per minute, and price. both important to look at, but if your business is printing, price may not be a consideration if a high PPM is needed.

Still want to define efficiency, lol?

Some people give up and go with the slightly simpler formula:
IF consumption < production THEN Efficiencycannabis = YES ELSE back to the drawing board

A nice guideline again, but yet again seems woefully inadequate. by this measure, If I smoke a gram a day, and cycle a grow every other month, If I grow with 2000 watts and get 100 grams, my consumption is indeed less than my production, so my room is efficient enough. BAH! .05g/w is not something i can get down with regardless of how much you get or smoke.

I guess g/w/hour has to be the best measure. Just wish it was the standard, because if I pull 1g/w with a 45 day veg, and someone else pulls .75 g/w from a 7 day veg who is using their resources more efficiently?

damn it, yes I still want to define it. It's the only way to compare, and I want to do it as accurately as I can.

 

[Propa Gator]

Re: Quest for 1g/w: 1k hps liquid cooled on a 6' mover in a 4x8 tent.

Net wgt/power/time is not the best mark of efficiency for most. I like this:

IF consumption < production THEN Efficiency cannabis = YES ELSE back to the drawing board

The real deal is using ones' resources at hand for best result. These are different for everybody. For me, space available is my most pressing limiter so I've gone vertical. If an outside grow was feasible, that would be MUCH more efficient.
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