Papay/Jungle Wreck and "living dead"

Really goes by high you like once tricomes start changing colors ... I prefer the head high minus couch lock if i can help it so harvest when they are 50 % or more cloudy all cloudy is better but some plants wont let ya bring them that far cause they get prego and stuff LOL Now on plants i cut when they were mostly cloudy i still noticed some couch lock in buzz ....maybe that is strain itself...but those are looking good...more than smokable :yummy: now grow some bigger with same buds...and you'll be smoking :roorrip:
Day i change to 12/12 I start counting ....Some are able to calculate by stretch period when harvest days is.
 
This is the problem I am having, I don't know if this is still a pH prob.
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I could be wrong but it look like some other problem then ph. I have in my vine the same problem but the stuff I use will be to strong. I don't know if it can be water down and do the same job. I will ask around for help and what to use from profesionnel people. I just print the picture to bring with me I will try to do it fast. Can you grade my food on ganja edible. If you go to Hardware store slash garden they have a big book with all the answer really cool.Thanks
 
Thats not good. Is that nut burn? not sure hope someone can give you a proper solution to that problem good luck.
 
Man sisco, that doesn't look good...it kind of looks like a minor problem I have had but mine did not get nearly that bad.

If your pH levels have been fixed fairly recently I'd say that you could still be seeing signs of the damage done before via nute lockout and whatnot. On the other hand if that problem has been fixed for more than 4-5 days and it's getting worse I'd say it's a deficiency but not due to lockout (doubt it's due to an excessive nutrient but is possible).

Is the mottling starting on the edges and working in to the center of the leaflets or does it just appear randomly? Did it start on the lower leaves and work its way up? If it started at the bottom and moved upwards you should be able to narrow your problem down to mobile elements (like nitrogen, but this does not look like nitrogen or phosphorus deficiencies) rather than immobiles (such as calcium).

I will say that looks a lot like a manganese deficiency (look almost half-way down, they show a pic of this during flowering which I believe that plant is in too):
Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

Manganese (Mn) Micronutrient and Immobile Element

Manganese Helps enzymes break down for chlorophyll and photosynthesis production, as well as it works with plant enzymes to reduce nitrates before producing proteins.

Having plants that are deficient in manganese can turn the young leaves into spotted (mottled) yellow and or brown areas on young leaves. Dead (Necrotic) yellow spots form on top leaves, while the lower older leaves will or may have gray specks and or spots. Symptoms can include yellowing of leaves while the leaf veins can stay green. Can also produce a chequered effect. As the plant gets newer growths the plant will seem to grow away from the problem, that’s why the younger leaves may be unaffected. On the top of the leaves, brown spots can appear. While the severe areas of the leaves turn brown and wither. Parts Affected by a Manganese deficiency are: Young leaves.

Too much Manganese in the soil will cause an iron deficiency. The blotchy leaf tissue is caused by not enough chlorophyll synthesis. Your plants will seem to have very weak vigour caused by the excessive amount of manganese.
 
Can you grade my food on ganja edible. If you go to Hardware store slash garden they have a big book with all the answer really cool.Thanks
Thanks for trying to help Peace, I would love to check out your food, I don't know where to go, is it in this site? What hardware store do you go too... I never seen a book in mine, but I have been thinking my problem stems from aluminum sulfate. I must have used too much and that would be the thing to fix. But what do I know.

Thats not good. Is that nut burn? not sure hope someone can give you a proper solution to that problem good luck.
I, don't think it is, I havnt used any thing other that that Espurma and fulvic along with that alum. sulfate. Thanks for checking in though, I sure do appreciate any help or comment.

Man sisco, that doesn't look good...it kind of looks like a minor problem I have had but mine did not get nearly that bad.

If your pH levels have been fixed fairly recently I'd say that you could still be seeing signs of the damage done before via nute lockout and whatnot. On the other hand if that problem has been fixed for more than 4-5 days and it's getting worse I'd say it's a deficiency but not due to lockout (doubt it's due to an excessive nutrient but is possible.

Is the mottling starting on the edges and working in to the center of the leaflets or does it just appear randomly? Did it start on the lower leaves and work its way up? If it started at the bottom and moved upwards you should be able to narrow your problem down to mobile elements (like nitrogen, but this does not look like nitrogen or phosphorus deficiencies) rather than immobiles (such as calcium).

I will say that looks a lot like a manganese deficiency (look almost half-way down, they show a pic of this during flowering which I believe that plant is in too):
Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial
Thanks for the help Lil N, The spots don't start at the edges they just started as little rust spots and eventually spread to the tips and edges and only the older leafs. I'll try to find a better pic.:thanks:
 
Thanks for trying to help Peace, I would love to check out your food, I don't know where to go, is it in this site? What hardware store do you go too... I never seen a book in mine, but I have been thinking my problem stems from aluminum sulfate. I must have used too much and that would be the thing to fix. But what do I know.


I, don't think it is, I havnt used any thing other that that Espurma and fulvic along with that alum. sulfate. Thanks for checking in though, I sure do appreciate any help or comment.


Thanks for the help Lil N, The spots don't start at the edges they just started as little rust spots and eventually spread to the tips and edges and only the older leafs. I'll try to find a better pic.:thanks:

I ask someone into a garden departement store and he told me He could be your nitrogene . When you bough your soil what was the number on the bag or if you are using fertilizer what is the number. You should go on your first number and it suppose to be around 8 to 10 not higher than that specially living in a hot climat. If you take a leave and rubb it and it smell like amonia it's your nitrogene. The only way is to pour water to wash it away but you can not over water either you need to be carefull. You have some little white spot on your leave is it all over the other leave if yes it's call mili bug I hope I wrote it rigth. He give me a recipe for that mili bug if you need it I will give it to you. It's a home remedy that he give me.
 
Hey sisco I learn that more you use different fertilizer easier to screw up. To much is really bad because you can take it out. I use some good poting soil with all the nutrient it need usully good for 3 month after I use super thrive for the stress and when the flower come out I use super bloom never OD my plant with fertelizer. I will put a journal with my old picture from my green room a soon I have time. Never have picture of harvest because I was sick comming out of hospital and need my medecine both time. Only my last harvest I have picture I try to make dwarf plant and it work. The big book with all ilness of plant, you find it at Lowes, Home depot
 
Hey growing brother ....not sure what that is...never seen it before ...hope someone can help ya ....I don't even have a guess :passitleft:
Thanks Tunes, I hope it isn't gonna be the end of the Papaya.
I ask someone into a garden departement store and he told me He could be your nitrogene . When you bough your soil what was the number on the bag or if you are using fertilizer what is the number. You should go on your first number and it suppose to be around 8 to 10 not higher than that specially living in a hot climat. If you take a leave and rubb it and it smell like amonia it's your nitrogene. The only way is to pour water to wash it away but you can not over water either you need to be carefull. You have some little white spot on your leave is it all over the other leave if yes it's call mili bug I hope I wrote it rigth. He give me a recipe for that mili bug if you need it I will give it to you. It's a home remedy that he give me.
Thank you Peace man, I can't beleive you would do that for me, everyone here has been very nice with me and I only wish to learn and one day help out like you guys. the bags of soil didn't have any NPK, not even the fertilizer... I will do some investigating and maybe find that out, the little white spots are from wood ash that I added that day to help with the pH. :thanks: again for the help my friend. I would like to check on that cannabis food you told me about please give me info on where I can check that out.

Interesting, he did say the bud he tried tasted like ammonia but the description in the above link for excessive nitrogen does not match his visible symptoms.
Yo Lil Neutrino, I thank you for taking the time to help out man. I think that my plant is looking better today... Must be the power of the 420 gang, and all of the good vibes coming from ya. I
Hey sisco I learn that more you use different fertilizer easier to screw up. To much is really bad because you can take it out. I use some good poting soil with all the nutrient it need usully good for 3 month after I use super thrive for the stress and when the flower come out I use super bloom never OD my plant with fertelizer. I will put a journal with my old picture from my green room a soon I have time. Never have picture of harvest because I was sick comming out of hospital and need my medecine both time. Only my last harvest I have picture I try to make dwarf plant and it work. The big book with all ilness of plant, you find it at Lowes, Home depot
Thanks again for the work you have put in my friend, I wish I could have all of you over for a pow-wow:bong::peace:
 
Thanks Tunes, I hope it isn't gonna be the end of the Papaya.

Thank you Peace man, I can't beleive you would do that for me, everyone here has been very nice with me and I only wish to learn and one day help out like you guys. the bags of soil didn't have any NPK, not even the fertilizer... I will do some investigating and maybe find that out, the little white spots are from wood ash that I added that day to help with the pH. :thanks: again for the help my friend. I would like to check on that cannabis food you told me about please give me info on where I can check that out.


Yo Lil Neutrino, I thank you for taking the time to help out man. I think that my plant is looking better today... Must be the power of the 420 gang, and all of the good vibes coming from ya. I

Thanks again for the work you have put in my friend, I wish I could have all of you over for a pow-wow:bong::peace:


Don't worry you are doing great. I was in the same spot then you last years. My advantage is that I took a year off because of my health and studies how to grow and did different test from what I found on the web. My problem was too much info, I got all freak out for nothing. When you start that can be confusing for you. That why I believe using sticks necessary fertilizer and not OD my plant. Do the basic and learn from that. You are on your way and doing great. We learn from are mistake I learn allot. I am lucky I have the best room for that. Now I love my home. I believe you should stop adding all can of stuff in it, just pour water on your papaya anything else. It will clean it away. If I can help you in the future it will be my pleasure. I wish people did that to me when I start growing and didn't know 420 either thanks for 420 and their great job. That why I like to help other people that he way the world should work. Peace:peace:
 
Don’t worry you are doing great. I was in the same spot then you last years. My advantage is that I took a year off because of my health and studies how to grow and did different test from what I found on the web. My problem was too much info, I got all freak out for nothing. When you start that can be confusing for you. That why I believe using sticks necessary fertilizer and not OD my plant. Do the basic and learn from that. You are on your way and doing great. We learn from are mistake I learn allot. I am lucky I have the best room for that. Now I love my home. I believe you should stop adding all can of stuff in it, just pour water on your papaya anything else. It will clean it away. If I can help you in the future it will be my pleasure. I wish people did that to me when I start growing and did’t know 420 either thanks for 420 and their great job. That why I like to help other people that he way the world should work. Peace:peace:

I appreciate the talk and the help man I think I am going to do some more reading on it and set up a little better for next grow... I need to get a JOB so I can move back to Cali. and use my inheritance of land in the middle of tumble weed and coyotes...
I cut Mari and Dora down last Monday, She looks like a small branch off the bottom side of Lil Neutrinos plant... LOL I prob. have an eighth out of that when it dries, I have it hanging in a closet where its nice and cool and dark.

I had to look under the soil for signs of anything, and I found a few white or silver looking bugs just zooming around I noticed that my roots where very thin and not allot of hairs coming out of the roots.
After seeing the bugs I caught one and took a pic. of it but its is so small my camera can't focus well enough to make a positive ID. I, then was scared of the other two in veg. so I had to flip and shake the plant away from the pot to look at what is going on and I saw more bugs but these were different color almost brown but very light brown..
I had a neighbor that owed me some money come thru last week... only a hundred bucks which my accountant said I can use only for my grow... That day I was at walmart with my kids... I only had 50 bucks left after 20 min. in that place...Kids come first no matter what...
So with the last Ulysses S. Grant I had I was bouncing back and forth between a ph tester or a trio pack of FF nutes....
The ph tester will have to wait just a little more. I decided to take my Jungle Wreck and My Papaya to the next level.... thats if the F@#$ing bugs don't kill them first..
I need to upload pics tonight.
Oh yeah and the clones look like crap. They look dead after 12 days in the soil... I decided that my first will be a lesson to me.. i will not do this again until I have every base covered and I learn more about different growing methods.
I put my last two plants in the top part of the closet and will be finishing those two in the next couple of weeks while fighting the bugs. Maggie and Elvira are under Lst now and I measured both today. Elvira has been FIM and I have a good looking bunch coming out of her top, So I snapped this one too, this accidental pulling apart at the crotch of the 4 new branches... I just said F#@$% it and let it the way it is... UUUHHHHH..... Sorry about the rambling I guess I should also say that Dora got smoked up today.... I'm very light headed and stay stuck on any thing that I'm doing.. I love it! It hung in my closet for 5 days and it was only about the size of a joint after I sipped her down and dried it in the oven for 5 minutes.
OK I'm gonna look for those pics while listening to some good music. :Rasta:
 
Well I guess the pics are gone off the chip... I must have had the (erase after completed) ON! That was over 2,000 pics of my first grow gone...
So here are some of my girls getting ready for their scrog grow.
I will let them veg. for another couple of weeks so the nutes get to work on the both of them. I have taped the feeding chart on each plant so I don't forget where I am at.
I started with 1/2 a tsp. of grow big and 1/4 cup of big bloom. On the feeding schedule it shows week 1-12 and what the feeding is for each one of those weeks, but on the right hand side of the schedule it says to feed every other watering... Is this confusing to any one else?
I also did a mix of 1/4 tsp. grow big for foliar feed, I am planing on misting 2x a week...

Well these here is Jungle wreck which by the way is smelling skunky, the pic. with the green zip tie is the spot that I split it in half almost. It has been about 4 days since it happened and it is still looking good.
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This is Maggie the last Papaya
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