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Is this leaf septoria? If so, what should I do?
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Standard bud washing advice from the DocBud thread is three 5 gallon buckets with room temp tap water. 1st bucket is 1/2 cup baking soda and 1/2 cup lemon juice. The other two buckets are plain rinse water.
You dunk and swish the branches without hitting the sides or bottom, shake them off, and hang them on a line with a fan on them for a few hours to drive off the bulk of the water. Then proceed as you would have if you hadn't washed them.
I use just plain water these days but I'm only spraying castile soap and BT. If I were using other sprays like spinosad or Safers Soap Spray I would use Doc's recipe.
It is in the first several messages of the thread and the rest of the thread is refinements and suggestions for other ways of doing the washing. The link is to what is probably the #1 thread on bud washing......
https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/bud-washing.200881/
I definitely don't recommend that first post in the bud washing thread as it recommends the hottest water you can stand. That's definitely not a good idea for your flowers, which is why I summarized the best info for Lovie above.
Now that you mention it I do remember that happening which is why I recommend closer to room temperature.
Anything wrong with my summary above?
Nope. Pretty much my current method. I do a 1 part peroxide to 3 parts water for the first stage and then the way you do it for the next 3.
Thinking about it, what I do is like your method except maybe the drying with the fan. I put the wet buds on window screens and have the fan directing the air above the buds and not right on them so it is a gently moving of the air. This part takes about 15 to 18 hours to hit that dry stage that I like; at least most of the time. I have had to go almost 24 hours several times when I first started since each time is always a learning experience.
I'd stay clear of screens since that's exactly what folks use to kief their plants. I also want the wash water driven off a lot faster than you do to make sure no rot takes hold.
Also I believe H2O2 is really only recommended for plants with active PM at harvest.
That is what I have read myself. I do it just to be on the safe side since I have been running an indoor perpetual since November of 2017. And with the outdoors being the way it is I just believe that there are living PM spores just blowing in the wind and will be on those plants no matter what I do.
I have had just one jar of buds go bad in all these years. That took place a couple of years after the harvest. I could not see anything on the buds but they had an off smell the first time I noticed something not right. I checked several times over a week or two and always felt that something was not right so tossed the stuff and moved on.
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My harvested my plants I had in the tent a week ago. Before harvesting them I took them while still in the planters, stuck them in the tub and rinsed them thoroughly with the shower head, pointed fans at them and set up a humidifier overnight and the next morning I harvested. It had been a while since I had sprayed them with copper fungicide but since they were in a tent and never received rain I thought it was best to give them a good rinse.
It finally stopped raining. The sun is supposed to come out tomorrow but the daytime humidity is supposed to be in the high 70s until Saturday. My one plant that received no light interference is getting harvested tomorrow. The rest need more time.
It finally stopped raining. The sun is supposed to come out tomorrow but the daytime humidity is supposed to be in the high 70s until Saturday. My one plant that received no light interference is getting harvested tomorrow. The rest need more time.
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What's PM?
Powdery mildew.
Dustin84
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I've got a "the soap and Chernobyl" I already harvested the bulk of, left most of the popcorn buds to grow. Partially going back into veg. I'm going to let it go and see what it looks like when it finally gives out
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I've found fresh bud tends to be really harsh as it is breaking down.
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This forum has been so great for me. Even though I still managed to make some painful mistakes I don't think I would have made it to harvest without it. Thanks 420 Magazine!I think this goes to my photos. Haven't posted many yet. I'm going to pull my first hydroponic attempts to make room for the newer going into flowering. For being newer to growing and just learning I think I'm doing well.
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I used @Sativa1970 method of flash drying. My dad tried it as soon as it came out the oven and more the next day. He said it wasn't harsh. He said the first day, straight out the oven had a green, homegrown taste but it was good the second day. No green taste and wasn't harsh.
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I have a couple more questions on the bud washing. When I was looking at the thread on bud washing it kept saying RO water........what is RO water? And am I supposed to wet trim before washing or just remove the big stuff? I was also wondering if I shouldn't add a capful of bleach for the mold.
I have been wondering if I should go ahead and wet trim. I have read that wet trimming helps preserve trichomes and prevent mold, but the quality tends to be better when you dry trim because something with the way the chloroform breaks down. I am wondering if anyone has tried both ways from the same harvest to have an accurate comparison. I have a lot of weed to trim. I got a bowl trimmer yesterday but I am guessing it won't work on wet weed. That is going to be a lot of trimming if I do it wet but with the mold I am encountering I am wondering if it isn't the safest way to go.
I have been wondering if I should go ahead and wet trim. I have read that wet trimming helps preserve trichomes and prevent mold, but the quality tends to be better when you dry trim because something with the way the chloroform breaks down. I am wondering if anyone has tried both ways from the same harvest to have an accurate comparison. I have a lot of weed to trim. I got a bowl trimmer yesterday but I am guessing it won't work on wet weed. That is going to be a lot of trimming if I do it wet but with the mold I am encountering I am wondering if it isn't the safest way to go.
Sativa1970
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RO is Reverse Osmosis water. Almost distilled water. Just a blank canvas so you are not adding more impurities. Decent tap water should work just fine. You want to defoliate before you harvest. Easier to get that harsh "home grown" taste from chlorophyll out of the bud. Also less to deal with and dries more even. Anything that has no sugar crystals gets cut off right before harvest.
I tried using the wash method once. Two mowi clones grown and harvested side by side. One defoliate and hung. The other defoliate then washed. Gently lowered into each 70 deg bucket and soaked for a few minutes. Baking soda and lemon ( 1 tsp per gallon) in the first bucket. Strait water in the next two for rinse. Hung the branches on a line with a fan moving and exhausting air until ready for cure. The washed bud has almost no flavor and lost a lot of its potency. I know a lot of people swear by the method so there must be some devil in the details I missed. Never had the need or desire to attempt it again. Closest I get is cold water to strip the trichs when making bubble hash. If you are concerned abought mold in the buds bubble hash may be a solution for you.
When drying you will get the advice that when a branch snaps clean with an audible pop it is dry. Never understood that description. I have tried a branch that sat on a potting bench for a year and it wouldn't snap. If you push a bud towards the base of the plant and it pops off into your hand it is dry and ready for cure.
I tried using the wash method once. Two mowi clones grown and harvested side by side. One defoliate and hung. The other defoliate then washed. Gently lowered into each 70 deg bucket and soaked for a few minutes. Baking soda and lemon ( 1 tsp per gallon) in the first bucket. Strait water in the next two for rinse. Hung the branches on a line with a fan moving and exhausting air until ready for cure. The washed bud has almost no flavor and lost a lot of its potency. I know a lot of people swear by the method so there must be some devil in the details I missed. Never had the need or desire to attempt it again. Closest I get is cold water to strip the trichs when making bubble hash. If you are concerned abought mold in the buds bubble hash may be a solution for you.
When drying you will get the advice that when a branch snaps clean with an audible pop it is dry. Never understood that description. I have tried a branch that sat on a potting bench for a year and it wouldn't snap. If you push a bud towards the base of the plant and it pops off into your hand it is dry and ready for cure.
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I never tested my water but I drink it straight from the tap all the time and I am okay. Our well is only 4 or 5 years old. I know we have a lot of minerals in our water because of the amount of scrubbing I have to do to keep my shower walls from turning green from the calcium deposits......and I guess it makes a certain smell when mixed with hair bleach because my hairstylist always comments on it when I get my hair done. Would the mineral deposits be of concern?