Icetech's First Grow Durban Poison & Jack Herer In Soil, QB LED, 2019

[Usherwood]

Some like the transplant some don't she will b fine I'm sure. I water heavy the nite before I re pot my plants seems to make transfer a little smoother. Can't wait to see pics happy growing

 

[Icetech]

Some like the transplant some don't she will b fine I'm sure. I water heavy the nite before I re pot my plants seems to make transfer a little smoother. Can't wait to see pics happy growing

Doh, forgot to take pics (weed...) will tonight, it all seems happy now. Will keep the watering thing in mind next time

 

[Icetech]

Took a pic last night.. the plants are doing well (the yellowing on the bottom leaves is from hitting them with nutes early, all new leaves have been great.. One thing i don't get is, these things seem to be growing more bushy than upwards.. If i have read right that just means plenty of light and not stretching to reach it? That Durban on the left is only about 4" tall but i swear i see 3 nodes already.. when i should i start LST? and when you LST you don't top?


P.S. the light messes up the camera on my phone, both plants are a nice happy green..

 

[farside05]

You are correct. Nice bushy plants and tight node spacing is indicitive of good lighting. You'll be thankful of that. Growing indoors in tents, we don't have unlimited headroom for mega tall plants. I top my plants around the 4th node and LST (bowl train) too. You don't have to top in order to do LST and vice versa.

 

[Icetech]

You are correct. Nice bushy plants and tight node spacing is indicitive of good lighting. You'll be thankful of that. Growing indoors in tents, we don't have unlimited headroom for mega tall plants. I top my plants around the 4th node and LST (bowl train) too. You don't have to top in order to do LST and vice versa.

Thanks, the light is 20" from them and i just wanted to make sure that tightness was correct very happy with buying this light so far. I still don't get the difference between LST and Bowl.. they seem exactly the same...

 

[farside05]

Bowl training is just a type of LST. With bowl training you pull the branches to the outside edge of your pot (or edge of the bowl so to speak) and tie them off. Spreading the plant open so light goes down the center of the plant easier. I just started it in mine if you hop over to my grow you may get the idea, although I don't have any close ups. A more traditional version of LST is to bend over the main stem. As long as you are manipulating stems/branches by tying them off to something, and not cutting or crushing the stems, it qualifies as LST.

 

[Icetech]

Bowl training is just a type of LST. With bowl training you pull the branches to the outside edge of your pot (or edge of the bowl so to speak) and tie them off. Spreading the plant open so light goes down the center of the plant easier. I just started it in mine if you hop over to my grow you may get the idea, although I don't have any close ups. A more traditional version of LST is to bend over the main stem. As long as you are manipulating stems/branches by tying them off to something, and not cutting or crushing the stems, it qualifies as LST.

Ahh.. k.. i thought LST was main stem also, and yeah i watch the perfectsun guys videos and was gonna do bowl.. just waiting for them to grow a bit more Will check out your grow.

 

[farside05]

The 'perfect sun guy" is LEDRF on this forum. He's an exceptional grower and has a number of excellent articles and videos.

 

[Icetech]

The 'perfect sun guy" is LEDRF on this forum. He's an exceptional grower and has a number of excellent articles and videos.

Yup, thats why i watch his vids, i had no idea he is on this forum.. just ran into his youtube channel when doing research..

 

[Usherwood]

Took a pic last night.. the plants are doing well (the yellowing on the bottom leaves is from hitting them with nutes early, all new leaves have been great.. One thing i don't get is, these things seem to be growing more bushy than upwards.. If i have read right that just means plenty of light and not stretching to reach it? That Durban on the left is only about 4" tall but i swear i see 3 nodes already.. when i should i start LST? and when you LST you don't top?


P.S. the light messes up the camera on my phone, both plants are a nice happy green..

Looking great

 

[Icetech]

So.. this is Day21 from taproot. not so happy about growth so far. but at least they look healthish (the burn on the Durban's leaves is from me using nutes too early.. new growth looks happy.
P.S. i got a lumen meter.. it says 3200 at canopy.. not sure what's good or bad... read one site saying you want 50000 lumens.. All i know is the lights are fucking bright and i see blue spots for awhile after working in there..

Durban poison

Jack Herer... I swear it's not growing upwards AT ALL.. it's just getting to be a tiny bush..

 

[Usherwood]

What lights u have they may have been stunted from nute burn. Ill look for picks if i can find of my jack grow. I know I had a hard time keeping those small and bushy so u may have a stunted plant

 

[Icetech]

qb 250w and yeah. i hit it with nutes way too early, both plants are on straight water for a while... it looks nice and green and super healthy.. it's just a shorty

P.S. does stunting still grow bushy just not tall? seems it would slow down all growth..

 

[farside05]

P.S. i got a lumen meter.. it says 3200 at canopy.. not sure what's good or bad... read one site saying you want 50000 lumens.. All i know is the lights are fucking bright and i see blue spots for awhile after working in there..

Lumens or Lux? Most of the cheaper meters (like the one I have) are lux meters. I'll run mine at a height that produces about 50,000 lux during full bloom. More like 20-30k at the stage/height you're at now. I'm just entering bloom and am at 40k. Over here is an article I got from Royal Queen about using a lux meter. Article

 

[Icetech]

Lumens or Lux? Most of the cheaper meters (like the one I have) are lux meters. I'll run mine at a height that produces about 50,000 lux during full bloom. More like 20-30k at the stage/height you're at now. I'm just entering bloom and am at 40k. Over here is an article I got from Royal Queen about using a lux meter. Article

Yeah, i realized that after i posted.. i believe the one i got can do lux or lumens, and there is no way it's 3k lumens.. will check when i get home thanks

 

[Icetech]

k.. yeah my meter was set wrong... 30-32k lux which i'm happy with.. the lights are a few inches farther away than i would like but the plants will get there soon enough. (wires from the driver to board are as far as they can go)

 

[farside05]

Yeah, you're good at that stage with 30k lux.

 

[Usherwood]

They should still stretch up and grow nice just gonna take a few to get back to it. I'm kinda anti nutes I use fish shit during veg think it impossible to o.d your plants with it. I use a bit of cal- mag every other water. During bloom just hi brix and bone meal hi brix is molasses for the most part bone meal I topdress in before watering. Might not grow the biggest buds lol but always great and no chem. Just trying to throw ya some ideas I see a lot of over feeding on grow sites. Good soil good environment good light and just a touch of food and bam

 

[Icetech]

Gave them some water with nutes last night (half strength) and i swear that durban grew 2 inches over night, i bent the main stalk over 90 degrees and tied it down.. starting the bowl The Here still short but looks super healthy. waiting for it to take off..

 

[Icetech]

K... took some pics this morning, my first time bowl training, hope i did it right.. think i might have went too early though
The Durban

And the Herer bush.