Ganjagrowergu
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That is roughly the size of the buckets for my autos. They are only on day 2. Hoping to get away with once per day feeding later in their lives,, but my environment is dry and hot so I just roll with the punches
These are what I am using and I like them pretty well.
Ganjagrowergu
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That's the one I have the DCA in. Lol. Love me some dollar tree
Oh me too! You gotta love the Dollar Tree!
These are what I am using and I like them pretty well.
I've tried many sizes and shapes over the years, tho not that exact type. Tall can work.
If it were in my garden, I'd go with a pretty good size res... maybe 4" up.
You might be beyond the perlite wicking zone... maybe. If you are, you'll end up with a touch longer main root between the top of the wicking zone where it will spread out and behave normally.
It'll take 'em a long time to drain when fertigating... just a normal drawback of a larger pot.
I'm not sure you're gonna see any benefit over the more traditional 5g format... but you go baby!
Not sure I understand. These are small waste baskets like you would see in a bathroom. It is probably 1.3 gallons in size and less then 11" tall.
OH GAWD!
Sorry... I read 1.5ft tall.
Geez.... damn stoner.
I see why.... the black pot behind it I just assumed was a 5gal like a few I have in my world.
Thank you for pointing.... again.... the green input is high.... but I'm still certain this means I need more!
Sorry... I read 1.5ft tall.
Geez.... damn stoner.
I see why.... the black pot behind it I just assumed was a 5gal like a few I have in my world.
Thank you for pointing.... again.... the green input is high.... but I'm still certain this means I need more!
Ganjagrowergu
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Thank goodness mine don't rely on perlite. Lol. My coco cap just becomes a solid root mass, not sure if it is good or not, but the crops have been tasty.
KeifKeith
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Hey Tead!
I'm a 5 gallon bucket lovin guy, I grow my best plants in old pickle buckets. I don't use a tent right now, but I can jam 8 - 5 gallon buckets is a 2x4 tent and get some wicked yields from 8 square feet with a lot of light. 16 inches is the max I've found that perlite will wick without a big root mass, your numbers add up. If the root mass fills the 5 gallon bucket, it will wick and root to within two inches of the rim in super coarse perlite.
Peace
Keith
Lazarus13
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I've noticed the past 2 times growing in 3.5gal trash cans that, when i pull them, the roots are a bit sparse in the top few inches. So I'm definitely seeing the wicking cap in action. This time I'm going to sprinkle just a bit of vermiculite in the top 1/3 of the perlite to see if the extra bit of moisture up there will help promote a little more upper lateral root mass. Hoping it doesn't all just filter down through the perlite after a few waterings. Opinions?
Hey KKieth!
I've done the 5gals before. Lemme go measure my prev veg space... plus I could use a bowl.....
OK... man... there are more measuring tapes than bongs on my back porch 4 to 3... just bad policy.
The old grow area was functionally 2ft x 2.5ft. Running a SoG from that space was tiiiiiiight. Add a 5gal to the mix and you end up stacking things and getting very creative. The new space is 3ft x 4ft. This translates to 5sq ft to 12sq ft. and doesn't even address the increase in height.
Now... Tead can play with some bigger toys and grins ear to ear every time he peeks in. He's had a real hard time keeping the bloom room filled and just needs the machine to stabilize and start pumpin out the various creations I feed in.
I've done the 5gals before. Lemme go measure my prev veg space... plus I could use a bowl.....
OK... man... there are more measuring tapes than bongs on my back porch 4 to 3... just bad policy.
The old grow area was functionally 2ft x 2.5ft. Running a SoG from that space was tiiiiiiight. Add a 5gal to the mix and you end up stacking things and getting very creative. The new space is 3ft x 4ft. This translates to 5sq ft to 12sq ft. and doesn't even address the increase in height.
Now... Tead can play with some bigger toys and grins ear to ear every time he peeks in. He's had a real hard time keeping the bloom room filled and just needs the machine to stabilize and start pumpin out the various creations I feed in.
I really wanna see/hear how it goes. I've got a big bag a verm as a toy... plenty of plans but wanna see what happens.
Does this count as an opinion?
Ganjagrowergu
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The cap on my hempys are 2-3" thick. Its something like 75%coco 15%perlite 10%vermiculite, that is my best guess at ratio. The entire cap just becomes solid root mass. The rest of my Hempy is aquarium gravel.
I believe that a 50/50 perl/verm would act similarly without the coco. I plant directly in the final container, so that probably makes a difference too. Sorry, stoned rambling.
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I don't have vermiculite laying around. Hmmmm......something to amend. I do have coco, so I'll track down the vermiculite. I've been thinking all evening about the suspccess you're having, and I'll be trying a specialized mix on one next run to see if it'll get the autos stronger.
I watered the baby again, and this time I did it the easy way.
Ganjagrowergu
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I don't have vermiculite laying around. Hmmmm......something to amend. I do have coco, so I'll track down the vermiculite. I've been thinking all evening about the suspccess you're having, and I'll be trying a specialized mix on one next run to see if it'll get the autos stronger.
I watered the baby again, and this time I did it the easy way.
Thank you for considering my endeavors as a success. Your opinion means a lot to me, you are SweetSue after all.
Now that I have people asking me for advice, I wonder what advice to give. Everyone's environment is so unique and what works for me may not work for anyone else, or it could work for everyone.
Thinking of 50/50 gravel/perlite mix and sticking with the "cap" because I really love the root development on top. My one gallon pots of gravel weigh about 10# dry
, I am glad I only have 2.... Depending how big these devils get, I may scale back to half gallon.I just spent an hour figuring out how to word something so simple. Damn sativas.
I'd want to retain the ability to raise/lower my lighting. I know this could be worked around by way of adjusting the height of individual plants, but still.
I suppose the proper(?) way would be to fabricate a duct connector where the fans are and another one connecting to the other vents. I've mentioned before how much I hate Gorilla tape, lol, but I'd probably end up using that as part of my kludge.
I'd probably want to toss the internal fans of the LED fixtures I've encountered into the nearest dumpster and use a real air-mover, and then do some real fabbing on the case. But, yeah, I could see the world's most adhesive duct tape playing a big part in my
LOL. Be my guest; the phrase has been around for decades and I'm certainly not the originator of it. I'm surprised you haven't heard it. Is everyone in your area (a) Not poor and (b) Not a hillbilly? It's pretty much describing... everything in my neck of the woods (which is more like an armpit of the woods).
If you use two-liter bottles, you can probably talk someone into letting you have (or buy, cheaply) some of the plastic carriers. They hold eight bottles each, although you don't have to fill every hole if you do not wish to use such a dense spacing. Helps a bunch. Doesn't prevent someone deciding to yank a plant out of the container, I guess, but that probably doesn't happen all that often.
If you're using something different for a container, you could always glue a thin piece of wood (et cetera) that has a larger area than the container to the bottom. That'll provide increased stability, although it could cause other annoyances.
Stop pouring those girls shots, LMFAO!
You don't want to come home one evening and see 'em passed out in the bathtub.
You can lollipop any strain. See: SOG, lol.
I've used a perlite/vermiculite mix before. Up to a 50:50 mix, but more often less vermiculite than perlite (didn't seem to take all that much vermiculite, to be honest - and I figured it was occupying air space between the pieces of perlite, so I tried not to overdo it). I suggest you try no more than 25% vermiculite.
As in all things, YMMV, of course.
Heh.
It's easier to create a smoking device than a fully-delineated tape measure. I'd guess that, if you were lost in the woods with a lid but no bowl, bong, or papers...
...you'd still find a way to get there.
I wish for... many things, actually. But in terms of grow room size, I most often find myself wishing for extra height (and that went double for SOGs).
I wouldn't think you'd need any vermiculite when you're running primarily coco coir. I used to cut that with perlite (only) and still wasn't really satisfied with the amount of moisture retention (too much, IMHO). I mean it worked, but I like to be able to add fresh solution more often.
Container size (and plant size) would play a big part, though. A big plant or a small container would mean watering more often in any case.
If you cannot find any locally and really want some, let me know and I'll try to find a way to get some to you. It wouldn't be much, but a little dab will do ya (IMHO). It's horticultural grade, although a good rinsing probably wouldn't hurt, as it's been sitting there in the bag in the basement for some years now.
Err... Don't wait until it gets cold and starts snowing, though. Unless you want to stop by and pick it up. And every Winter I get closer to not having an address, so that isn't guaranteed to be possible.
Ganjagrowergu
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I don't care for coco either. I traded a bag of coarse perlite for a 50 gallon Rubbermaid ,tub and all, overflowing with this stuff. Not sure why the guy had it mixed like that, I favor a lot more perlite. But I had a real hankering to try coco. Then I didn't after i used the GO lineup. I really hate bugs...
I really think that 50/50 perl/verm 2" cap would work as well if not better than what I am using. Soon my coco supply will be gone and I will be able to move on to better things.
I just noticed the link to your DDA and SSDC grow journal. I'm subscribing to that one! (I probably won't end up being able to keep up, but I am interested in seeing both of those strains grown, so I'll make the attempt.)
Good luck on the grow.
Good luck on the grow.
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They'll hold up very well.
Don't be fooled, they'll grow big honkin' stems and develop stabilizing root masses. There will always be a certain flexibility to their stature and they may shift some when you water. Just shift them back upright. @TorturedSoul, I don't have to water daily unless it's a really thirsty chemovar in late flower. So far, in my experience, the every two day scheduling is a keeper, stretching up to every four days when they're seedlings. Even so, I try to get all the hempies done every two days. That way there're no slip ups.
You guys were busy over here yesterday. I missed more than a page. Lol!