Nice looking plant How tall is it from the top of the pot? I can never judge that well.
nekvt
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My guess would be 14-16 inches. I'll measure it next time I open the tent and let you know.
Buck5050
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Here is Panama Powerhouse by Dman's seeds @ Day 42 in perlite/verm GH nutes under EB gen2 LED strips.
Yep.
Probably 100% perlite. I've still got a pretty good size block of coco coir left, and even some calcium nitrate to soak it in after the preliminary rinse to replace much of the salts naturally present in it with calcium so it doesn't steal it from the nutrient solution, but I don't really care for coco, either. I suppose I could break down and mix in 15% to 25% vermiculite, but I probably won't. Just need to estimate how much water it'll consume/transpire per day and figure out whether I can reasonably expect to be able to supply that in one watering per day, maximum. Think about hole height - size of reservoir, basically - both as its own thing and in terms of percentage of the entire container size. Which I'm sure I'll get around to. One of these days when I feel halfway decent. Wish in one hand...
I feel that, with passive hydroponics, the ability to water on a daily basis helps. If the solution sets, that interferes with my ability to pour in fresh that hasn't had the oxygen content used up.
236 grams
.Go BIG on reservoir size, ensure heroic amounts of DO, constantly. Bob's yer uncle.
You can set up an empty bucket for testing before you put any plants in it. That will give you a handle on evap. Plant uptake will start being noticeable when the plant get about 6".
Watering in an SoG is fun... the babies get a few cups and the pots are heavy, then on the other extreme are big plants that feel light as hell 'cause the water's gone. Every watering is an exploration and example of the exact issue you mention. Funny.
nekvt
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It is taller than I thought, 23" when I measured it this morning.
Very nice. See I would have guessed taller. So hard for me to tell in the photos.
I'm thinking more about what the plants will use than in terms of what will evaporate from the container. I haven't done anything resembling a SOG in years. I did do a test with a couple autos (pretty much the first two seeds I came two in the pile) last year to see how they'd interact in a "big sog" (planting at only ~4 per square foot instead of more densely packed), wondering if I allowed them to branch slightly here and there would it let me go dense up top without too much hassle, using the "extra" growth to fill in spots here and there, but... it kind of got skewed when I was starting to get both plants to be of comparable size and then broke off one of them just slightly above the surface of the media
. OtOH, I did learn that I could snap the "top" (everything above the first little set of leaves that appear above the initial cotyledons
) off of some breeder's (don't remember, wasn't one I'd grown before) version of an auto-flowering White Widow, throw it in the trash can, retrieve it the next day, attempt a half-@ss repair, fail, toss it again, and finally stick the bottom back under the light to watch it die - only to have it decide to live, and continue growing. That was the one that I let sit in the Solo cup way too long, because I kept thinking it'd die, but it didn't. Thing had just switched from "hey, there's another female flower there" to flowering in earnest before the klutz move. I finally stuck it into a 2l bottle, and it caught up to the one (different strain) that I'd transplanted much earlier. But I was trying to keep things small, therefore I cannot state that it would have done so if I'd been pushing the other one along. Still, that was a pleasant surprise. I do like to... not so much utterly disregard advice, lol, as to question it a bit. But from what I'd read, leaving one too long in a tiny container would have doomed it to "midgethood" - and when I finally did the transplant, the root mass was pretty solid. Wish I had the means to aerate 24 individual containers; I'd try a hybrid aerated hempy grow with slightly larger reservoirs (for the container size). But that's a dream for someone else's pipe
. These are looking like they'll be normal hempies and the number will be lower (thinking 18, with possibility of early culls shrinking the number a bit more). At the same time, I have this illogical (nonsensical, lol?) urge to take my window a/c electrical (capacity) budget and use it to add lots more light. An early, cool Autumn would be nice. I Anyway, yes. Autos in hempies. Save room for a photo or two to begin (later!) as I'm feeling optimistic about the Fall weather at the moment, and would like to get back to photoperiodic strains at that time, and that would save some time (at the cost of space for the autos, true).
IDK. Just typing random stuff in while I wait for my headache to ebb enough to allow me to eat something.
I pondered many ways to hook up active air to my side venting LED. The winning idea was a PVC pipe (hmmm... when you're a hammer, the whole world is a PVC pipe?) cut in 1/2 length-wise running around the enclosure with an inlet and outlet.... then I decided to do something better and easier... just mounted it outside the space.
You just un-sold me on the idea.... but I do always appreciate a good "Bob's ur uncle"!
Stealin this!
You just un-sold me on the idea.... but I do always appreciate a good "Bob's ur uncle"!
Stealin this!
Ganjagrowergu
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Everyone in Hempy besides my little indica bush.
Something I am noticing as my first group of hempy girls get bigger they don't seem very "secure" in the perlite. Like it wouldn't take much to knock a plant over. I have to wonder how, once you start adding height, branch weight, and bud weight how they'll hold up against these factors.
So you are growing mostly sativa strains yes? And do you go straight to 12/12 lighting with all the plants as soon as they sprout?
I think it's more the bucket stability than anything
My smaller ones tent to be a bit tipsy, a few I have had to tie to the tent side
To heavy if buds is a good thing....lol
Ganjagrowergu
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Yes, they are all swami genetics described as landrace polyhybrids that were crossed with a Columbian red point male, so, pretty much 100% sativa. I started 12/12 from seed, but decided to go 11/13 awhile back and have stuck with it.
My indica doesn't like it much, but she is not a Hempy so.... And I realize she may not even be in the photo, lol
The seemingly empty hempys on the right are my autos. DDA and Devils Crack Auto. Grateful to the person that helped me get these genetics. She is wonderful.
Ganjagrowergu
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One of my reasons for using aquarium gravel... They still get top heavy and need to be tied up, but I haven't had a Hempy spill yet
I'm going to have to give that a try one day. I find the long single cola to be quite fetching to the eye. It has to be a sativa for it to grow like that? Or would an indica grow like that too if put straight into flowering? Also, are you topping the plant at all?
Ganjagrowergu
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With the single cola plants I did no training or topping until they get too tall, then I just bend them over, tie em up when they put on weight. Never grown an untrained indica, not sure why.... I am beginning to top my sativas though, my lights have bad penetration.
I like that, but I think I'm liking the super long fat single colas more. I always top and train everything trying to make more bud sites and open the plant up for more light penetration. But those single cola plants are very cool looking. I'll need to find some regular sativa seeds, look for a nice male, and see if I can't make a bunch of seeds. It might be fun to grow a dozen single cola plants at the same time in my small tent.
Ganjagrowergu
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My least branchy singles were grown in the 20oz containers. Beware of frequency of feedings. In mid-flower I fed 3x daily. But you are right, they are very fun to watch grow in this manner. Trimming is a breeze
I would probably grow in gallon containers to have a bigger reservoir. I have two DDA in hempy right now that are starting to get big. I am noticing there is not much left in the tank on feeding day which currently is every other day. When they're fully grown and in flower I may have to water/feed every day.