DV8's Deviance

[DV8]

Think I got a proper shot of those purples.

 

[Porky82]

Everything is looking great mate!

 

[DV8]

Everything is looking great mate!

Cheers Porky. Plenty of time for fuckups yet haha.

That Wedding cake sure is a lot closer than the Purple Punch.

Looked over trichs and lower budsites last night, shes definitely close to the zone despite not running her full clock yet.

Im always stuck somewhere between caution and greed.

 

[DV8]

Gonna take that Wedding Cake down tomorrow. Ever seen those baby birds when Mumma bird flies in with a worm?

Yeah well stoners be like that, me the Mumma bird, and the worm weed atm.

2 pound just (finger snap) gone.

I could maybe get a 1/3 more out of her, decisions made. Try for some glamour pics in morning.

Took her fans and larger sugars tonight.

Probs less there than it first looked to me, but what is there is fucking mint.

100 keeping some aside for myself and a rainy day.

If shes a blast Ill be sure to keep her line going for a while yet.

All class and stole my heart. Deserves a single dedicated tent.

See what the testers say first. Not unheard of to look and smell the bomb but come up short in the pipe.


Runtz Muffin has struck a nerve though. I didnt think it was legit, obviously my opinion means fuck all.

Only 1 bag left in rotation, and Im willing to bet its shelf life is short.

 

[DV8]

Got her down.

Ill tidy up some pics, here she was.

Might only go 5oz, in saying that, a killer 5 ozs.

103 days from seed, 47 from flip. Veg under a 150w, flower under a 200W.

 

[Porky82]

Got her down.

Ill tidy up some pics, here she was.

Might only go 5oz, in saying that, a killer 5 ozs.

Looks real good mate!

 

[DV8]

With space free Im going to put some time in veggers, piggybacking the space light and temps of flower tent.

WC clone

PP clone

RM clones x 2

Purple Punch girl all spread out.


RM got an uppot, Ill do the other 2 today and start outdoors genetics.

Its a cracker of a day so completing a few garden projects is on the cards till later this afternoon.

 

[DV8]

Empty tent syndrome

Took 2 clones of Wedding Cake, and 2 of Purple Punch.

Seeds defrosting, Blueberry x 5, Bubba Kush x 1, Tropicanna Banana x1, Regs x 5 (3F & 2M would be ideal).

That would be 14, 9 femmed.

Ill have a look through what else is there in freebies and doubles to add a couple, 10 to grow buddy, males and rest for me.

 

[DV8]

Temps got a bit low last night, my fault for not adding heat. Slipped my mind till this morning seeing 12C on displays.... argh.

They look so sad. Should have a better day today.

 

[DV8]

Newest clones looked pretty positive today. Im no expert, but I get the vibe early if I think they will be strong or not.

These in dirt look great. So much for the failure in the cloner.

Veg girls didn't really bounce back like I had anticipated. Removed ties for now and let them run. Tidied lowers which I never really done in veg before.

Attempting to shape and get exactly what Im after this run, strong, even tops all in the appropriate places.

I think the strong stems and early node knotting is a positive sign. Ive always believed keeping them under an early LST would be beneficial, this run seems to confirm it.

Makes sense, same happens to (general pioneer) weeds, when corrupted early they good woody and thicken up as opposed to thin and spread large.

Although I pulled seeds out, yet to soak and plant. Its less procrastination, more trying to fit everything in a day. Often the girls don't get the attention they should. Today was like that.

Purple Punch is still getting water only, seeing if it improves the taste, cant determine in its the nutes, the fridge dry, or both, but theres always been an aftertaste in my buds.

All I can do is run the variables and see what's what.

I hate not having answers, but the questions never stop. For all the great growers and info on 420 theres some really bad myths that seem to get peddled. Not that I think its malicious, is just hard to know what is good information, and bad information. No answer is better than bad answer Ive found.

Ive resolved to just try and test things to see what conclusions I can draw with confidence, no different with the after taste question. Too big a rabbit hole to ask about, way to many opinions and theories.

Thats the part that annoys me most. I just want details, things growers have tested themselves and the conclusions. So much seems to be blindly regurgitating some unsubstantiated info read somewhere.

Youd honestly think with so many growers, so many techniques, literally decades of combined experience, thered be less guessing and more concrete knowledge based on practical results. Alas it is not always so. Too many untested hypothesis.

Anyhow the best lessons we learn are making the mistakes I guess. Hopefully over time there will be less of them.

 

[Regrowth]

So then what's an example of a 'really bad myth' that gets peddled.
I mean you're essentially testing if flushing makes any difference.
People have surely answered that rather honestly.
Anyway, there's no harm in experimenting and coming to your own conclusion.

Personally, I don't flush and there's definitely no aftertaste in my buds and
I've also smoked bud right out of the fridge, no aftertaste as well.
Sure, the taste isn't as good if you sample before curing but it's not bad either and it only gets better.

But, man, I'm also pretty much an expert at fucking up...
I've botched a lot of curing by having my RH too high or bagging questionable buds that later spoil the rest.
I know moldy weed for sure tastes and smells fucked.
If there's even a hint of ammonia smell I know somethings wrong.
I'm not saying it's that but hope you figure it out, DV.

 

[Trala]

Newest clones looked pretty positive today. Im no expert, but I get the vibe early if I think they will be strong or not.

These in dirt look great. So much for the failure in the cloner.

Veg girls didn't really bounce back like I had anticipated. Removed ties for now and let them run. Tidied lowers which I never really done in veg before.

Attempting to shape and get exactly what Im after this run, strong, even tops all in the appropriate places.

I think the strong stems and early node knotting is a positive sign. Ive always believed keeping them under an early LST would be beneficial, this run seems to confirm it.

Makes sense, same happens to (general pioneer) weeds, when corrupted early they good woody and thicken up as opposed to thin and spread large.

Although I pulled seeds out, yet to soak and plant. Its less procrastination, more trying to fit everything in a day. Often the girls don't get the attention they should. Today was like that.



I hate not having answers, but the questions never stop. For all the great growers and info on 420 theres some really bad myths that seem to get peddled. Not that I think its malicious, is just hard to know what is good information, and bad information. No answer is better than bad answer Ive found.

This isn’t an evidenced based science journal. It’s a bunch of peeps who like to grow and smoke weed.

A myth to one is truth to another.

That’s the thing. You do you. You find out. There are so many variables. Weather; soil; nutes; humidity; seed genetics. There is never going to be one answer that suits all.

Ive resolved to just try and test things to see what conclusions I can draw with confidence, no different with the after taste question. Too big a rabbit hole to ask about, way to many opinions and theories.

Thats the part that annoys me most. I just want details, things growers have tested themselves and the conclusions. So much seems to be blindly regurgitating some unsubstantiated info read somewhere.

Youd honestly think with so many growers, so many techniques, literally decades of combined experience, thered be less guessing and more concrete knowledge based on practical results. Alas it is not always so. Too many untested hypothesis.

Well that’s a broad statement that could be seen as hurtful. See that’s the thing. Opinions are like arseholes in the fact everyone has got one. I’m reading yours right now, don’t like it tbh, and that’s okay lolling! I have gone from growing buds that look like absolute shit to bud that I’m so proud of thanks to the mentoring I’ve had in this forum.

I was taught with real kindness, and for the most part that’s what this place is about. Helping each other based on our beliefs, whether it be true, tested or myth. It comes from a place of good to help others.

I think every time you see a plant in here that looks mint you have your proof.

Anyhow the best lessons we learn are making the mistakes I guess. Hopefully over time there will be less of them.

Just keep it in perspective Deeve. You’re not curing cancer here. You’re growing weed with mates.

It’s meant to be enjoyable.

 

[DV8]

So then what's an example of a 'really bad myth' that gets peddled.

Thanks for replying mate.

Two personal examples, just from my perspective. And in this language matters.

Never top an auto, it will stunt growth.

Seedlings need higher RH, or they will die.

Neither have I found to be correct, and yet passed off as irrefutable at times.

Im not saying there's not something to these myths, what Im saying is how things are presented matters. Using words like 'will' .

I mean you're essentially testing if flushing makes any difference.
People have surely answered that rather honestly.

Seems to be sticky to discuss haha.

But what Im really after is finding out why my buds have an after taste. I have zero idea is there is even a correlation between running nutes to harvest and aftertaste, and running water only and any effect on after taste.

Equally the drying process. Fridge vs other methods.

So far it seems anecdotally that neither are the root cause.

Last lot of buds went to traditional air dry method, not finished yet so I guess time will tell.

Anyway, there's no harm in experimenting and coming to your own conclusion.

Personally, I don't flush and there's definitely no aftertaste in my buds and
I've also smoked bud right out of the fridge, no aftertaste as well.
Sure, the taste isn't as good if you sample before curing but it's not bad either and it only gets better.

Cheers Regrowth, we can eliminate these two variables, or at least say its my errors in technique.

But, man, I'm also pretty much an expert at fucking up...
I've botched a lot of curing by having my RH too high or bagging questionable buds that later spoil the rest.

I feel into the trap once. Hate to lose weights, but worse when they fuck the good buds. I just bin everything Im not 100% on now.

I know moldy weed for sure tastes and smells fucked.
If there's even a hint of ammonia smell I know somethings wrong.
I'm not saying it's that but hope you figure it out, DV.

All interesting things to think about.

Honestly there's a huge drought on supply and so noone is making a loud complaint, its just me trying to produce the highest quality.

Be nice to know what Im doing that seems to be causing a bad after-taste though.

Thanks for trying to help get to the bottom of it mate, I'll have to spend some more time trying to figure it out.

I still have some things to try if this dry turns out the same. And theres the Purple Punch on a water only run to air dry to see if theres any improvement.

If the PP goes the same way Ill shrug it off as something too hard to identify and isolate and focus back on the things I can control.

 

[Absorber]

Temps got a bit low last night, my fault for not adding heat. Slipped my mind till this morning seeing 12C on displays.... argh.

They look so sad. Should have a better day today.

Nice looking buds man

 

[Regrowth]

I just bin everything Im not 100% on now.

I toss anything sketchy and freeze the rest to use for edibles.
I know some people might not agree with that but they didn't spend the time growing it.
Eating a bit of mold isn't really comparable to inhaling it either but I don't know, I'm not a doctor lol.

be nice to know what Im doing that seems to be causing a bad after-taste though.

Plants have been looking great though, DV.
What's the aftertaste comparable to? What nutes are you using?

 

[Mars Hydro]

Think I got a proper shot of those purples.

beautiful

 

[DV8]

 

[Absorber]

Looking good

 

[DV8]

I toss anything sketchy and freeze the rest to use for edibles.

Oh yeah? Every trim I think to myself I should do something with the smaller buds and trim.

My daughter introduced me to edibles, near fucking died the first time haha, still laugh at myself about that.

First class way to go though, my favourite.

I know some people might not agree with that but they didn't spend the time growing it.

I hear that mate.

Tra said it to me first, and I often repeat it. Anyone just paying cash for the end product really can't appreciate just how much went in to it.

If it was priced at effort, would be worth double!

Eating a bit of mold isn't really comparable to inhaling it either but I don't know, I'm not a doctor lol.

Been curious about this. In a former life Mrs was qualified food standards certified.

She just shook her head. I reckon giving it a good cook would be 99% safe, she tells me that some of the spores of certain types will fuck you up though.

Plants have been looking great though, DV.

Cheers mate. I think they've been pretty good. Starting to trust the process on the last few, have my routines fairly organised.

Would love more time to spend on them too though.

What's the aftertaste comparable to?

Its like a harshness right at the end of exhale, it kind of lingers in the mouth and tongue. Its hard to describe the taste, but its unpleasant.

What nutes are you using?

Cyco soluable Grow & Bloom.

Closest thing that anyone would recognise is MC, totally different manufacturers, but very similar use and application.

I did use a different product before that. I was always wondering just how good it was.

@Trala has a comparison journal of the old one going right now. Personally I blame her for spending 100s of dollars on nutes that sit in my cupboard waiting for spring vegetables lols.

Also, are you still growing Regrowth? I haven't seen a (current) journal.

 

[DV8]

Nice looking buds man

beautiful

Thank you both for stopping in with some nice words.

Its something I should do more for others, as it always makes me smile.