Thank you Gee.
Is this for the first watering of the plants in their 5 gal bags? I worry about drenching the autos because they don't have any time for recovery from water shock. Are you saying that I must wet the entire pot with one deep watering to run off? Won't that be too much for the youngsters? Won't their roots get cold? My usual practice would have been to water in a circle, the diameter of the plant from leaf tip to leaf tip. However, I realize that doesn't rehydrate my LOS. Also, a lot of that water would fall straight through I think.

Cool, I'll play with this and see how I go.

Ok so after one hour I must empty the excess from the saucer right?

No recovery time = panic stations. I can't afford to yellow.

yep yep.
No, just if you see yellowing or starvation symptoms starting. With new soil on it's 1st run in the hands of a capable grower it's usually a calcium thing, so if they start to look hungry and it has you scratching your head because they shouldn't be, usually a good pot drench fixes it by homogenizing calcium into the soil, but if they never look hungry just keep growing😊
 
No, just if you see yellowing or starvation symptoms starting. With new soil on it's 1st run in the hands of a capable grower it's usually a calcium thing, so if they start to look hungry and it has you scratching your head because they shouldn't be, usually a good pot drench fixes it by homogenizing calcium into the soil, but if they never look hungry just keep growing😊
My soil is reconditioned, so not on its first run. I made sure that it was squeezably moist when I up-potted the plants. Now I am not sure what technique to use to maintain the soil moisture. Do I water right up to the edge of the pot when I make my circle around the plant? That would make sense to me but I'd hate to be wrong and drown them.
 
My soil is reconditioned, so not on its first run. I made sure that it was squeezably moist when I up-potted the plants. Now I am not sure what technique to use to maintain the soil moisture. Do I water right up to the edge of the pot when I make my circle around the plant? That would make sense to me but I'd hate to be wrong and drown them.
Oh sorry, for some reason I thought it was 1st run. Just water like you normally would for a baby in a big pot, around the leaf line. This grow is going to be even better than I thought🥰. For some reason I thought you bought some commercial soil and ammended it yourself. This should be a great run! 2nd run is usually spectacular.😎
 
Oh sorry, for some reason I thought it was 1st run. Just water like you normally would for a baby in a big pot, around the leaf line. This grow is going to be even better than I thought🥰. For some reason I thought you bought some commercial soil and ammended it yourself. This should be a great run! 2nd run is usually spectacular.😎
Gee man, I hope you don't mind me putting you on the spot. I am not sure how to judge the right timing for first watering. When I stick my finger in the top few inches of soil it comes out slightly moist, barely noticeable but there. My feeling after what I have learnt in your thread, is that the carbon in the soil is still holding moisture and the plants have plenty at this stage. However, I must also take into account that evaporation through the cloth pots is a factor. I was wondering if I should give them each about 300 ml just to wet the soil around the roots, and so that it can spread out. What do you think? This is what they look like now.



 
They look pretty happy to me. I like to run mine a bit on the drier side, as in as long between waterings as I can, when they are young and building roots, but not to the point that they are dry and stressed. Do you have a picture from above? They look very happy. The one has a slight bit of serrations pointing up, not badly, but I wouldn't turn the ligjts up any stronger just yet, and that little bit of saw tooth is fine it will pull the roots out and make them move water better. If you are worried just give them a small drink. 300ml in a big pot isn't much so that should be A-OK, maybe right out at the drip line and a little bit right at the trunk. It will dissipate quickly in a big pot. Trust your gut, and if that mottling comes back then wait a bit longer next time. They look very happy right now🥰
 
They look pretty happy to me. I like to run mine a bit on the drier side, as in as long between waterings as I can, when they are young and building roots, but not to the point that they are dry and stressed. Do you have a picture from above? They look very happy. The one has a slight bit of serrations pointing up, not badly, but I wouldn't turn the ligjts up any stronger just yet, and that little bit of saw tooth is fine it will pull the roots out and make them move water better. If you are worried just give them a small drink. 300ml in a big pot isn't much so that should be A-OK, maybe right out at the drip line and a little bit right at the trunk. It will dissipate quickly in a big pot. Trust your gut, and if that mottling comes back then wait a bit longer next time. They look very happy right now🥰
Morning Gee, thank you!
Here is a brief video from this morning. I think I still see mottling but not certain. Please have a look. I haven't given them any water yet because the bottoms of the bags are still damp to the touch. I want to give them a trickle of top water but am holding out a bit longer. I posted a question about top dressing in your thread and I'll take it from there once you've had a chance to answer me.

Happy Humpday errebody!
 
The 1st one looks pretty good for wetness/dryness and the other 2 look a tad wet still. It's hard to say with baby auto's though as from what I have seen they all look a bit funky when they are young. The middle one definitely looks wettest. Do you have a moisture meter?

Just a cheap one like this that I got from The Dollar Store?
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They take all the guess work out of it for you. Stick it in, wait 10 seconds for the needle to stabilize, and you know. They are eye openers. Most people's soil is way too wet.
 
The 1st one looks pretty good for wetness/dryness and the other 2 look a tad wet still. It's hard to say with baby auto's though as from what I have seen they all look a bit funky when they are young. The middle one definitely looks wettest. Do you have a moisture meter?

Just a cheap one like this that I got from The Dollar Store?
20240619_032707.jpg

They take all the guess work out of it for you. Stick it in, wait 10 seconds for the needle to stabilize, and you know. They are eye openers. Most people's soil is way too wet.
Who makes that meter?? Thanks!! Happy hump 🐪 day!! 😎✌️
 
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The 1st one looks pretty good for wetness/dryness and the other 2 look a tad wet still. It's hard to say with baby auto's though as from what I have seen they all look a bit funky when they are young. The middle one definitely looks wettest.
The middle one was up-potted last because that pot was a bit too moist at first.
Do you have a moisture meter?
I don't. I can't afford to buy the gadgets. I understand they are a dime a dozen in the USA. It is what it is.
Just a cheap one like this that I got from The Dollar Store?
20240619_032707.jpg

They take all the guess work out of it for you. Stick it in, wait 10 seconds for the needle to stabilize, and you know. They are eye openers. Most people's soil is way too wet.
Another item on my list!

The babies are teenagers. They are filling out and growing side branches. I raised the lights a few centimeters because the PPFD was too high for my DLI calculations, and also higher than the recommended light intensity for autos in veg.

I sprinkled 300 mls of water onto the tops, to moisten that top layer, as the pots are still moist to the bottoms. That was after top dressing with Elemental Blend and EWC. Other than that, I have been spritzing the surfaces to keep them from drying out. This is fantastic. I now know how to set the pots with adequate moisture for their first three weeks with Gee's squeeze test method!

Thank you for looking in.
 
They look so healthy and green, and the BBa is really moving along! Are you keeping the first nodes on all of them? I can't remember if you usually do or don't?
Thank you Shed! I usually decide a bit later if I'll keep node one branches. It will differ for each plant, based on the strength of the growth at that node. BBa looks to be keeping the node one branches. In my experience the node one and two branches produce nicely if the growth is strong.

BBa will probably be topped later today or tomorrow. I'm in half a mind to fim. I wonder what other auto growers think of the fim idea.
 
Week 3 Update

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The middle one was up-potted last because that pot was a bit too moist at first.

I don't. I can't afford to buy the gadgets. I understand they are a dime a dozen in the USA. It is what it is.

Another item on my list!

The babies are teenagers. They are filling out and growing side branches. I raised the lights a few centimeters because the PPFD was too high for my DLI calculations, and also higher than the recommended light intensity for autos in veg.

I sprinkled 300 mls of water onto the tops, to moisten that top layer, as the pots are still moist to the bottoms. That was after top dressing with Elemental Blend and EWC. Other than that, I have been spritzing the surfaces to keep them from drying out. This is fantastic. I now know how to set the pots with adequate moisture for their first three weeks with Gee's squeeze test method!

Thank you for looking in.
They look nice and happy. 🍋
 
They are looking really good Carmen! Getting big fast! Great color too. They look very happy, It looks like your soil rebuild worked well👊. This should be a great run😊
Thank you Gee man :)
 
Week 3 Update

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The middle one was up-potted last because that pot was a bit too moist at first.

I don't. I can't afford to buy the gadgets. I understand they are a dime a dozen in the USA. It is what it is.

Another item on my list!

The babies are teenagers. They are filling out and growing side branches. I raised the lights a few centimeters because the PPFD was too high for my DLI calculations, and also higher than the recommended light intensity for autos in veg.

I sprinkled 300 mls of water onto the tops, to moisten that top layer, as the pots are still moist to the bottoms. That was after top dressing with Elemental Blend and EWC. Other than that, I have been spritzing the surfaces to keep them from drying out. This is fantastic. I now know how to set the pots with adequate moisture for their first three weeks with Gee's squeeze test method!

Thank you for looking in.
Plants are looking great Carmen:thumb:
 
Thank you Shed! I usually decide a bit later if I'll keep node one branches. It will differ for each plant, based on the strength of the growth at that node. BBa looks to be keeping the node one branches. In my experience the node one and two branches produce nicely if the growth is strong.

BBa will probably be topped later today or tomorrow. I'm in half a mind to fim. I wonder what other auto growers think of the fim idea.
What is FIM? If it's not a long explanation
 
What is FIM? If it's not a long explanation
Thank you Con!
It is the acronym for "fuck I missed" I believe. Instead of topping the plant, you take a partial snip out of the top and it can potentially grow extra colas.
 
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