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Thank you!
Cocktail Hour in Carmen's Kitchen
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I like them at that age you have done them good. 
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Thank you Keith. I've had good results mixing the soil with 50 % seedling mix. It's soft enough and nutritious enough to get them through the first few weeks until they go into their 20 L pots. I really think the microbe and Sea Brix solution is doing wonders too.I like them at that age you have done them good.
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Lighting Change - Week 3 ish
I raised the light to 40 cm above the seedlings and turned the light up to 50 %, bringing PPFD to the upper 400s. This is ideal for 18 hours of light per day according to the DLI chart for autos.
I feel it is safe to do this because I am seeing roots at the bottoms of the pots, and more vigorous growth. They want to veg now.
I have prepared their final pots and the soil is moist and ready for them.
I raised the light to 40 cm above the seedlings and turned the light up to 50 %, bringing PPFD to the upper 400s. This is ideal for 18 hours of light per day according to the DLI chart for autos.
I feel it is safe to do this because I am seeing roots at the bottoms of the pots, and more vigorous growth. They want to veg now.
I have prepared their final pots and the soil is moist and ready for them.
They're loving what you're doing! 
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Blood red wine. It's Melck's by Muratie, a lekker blended red, easy on the pallet. Pairs nicely with the Blueberry. I think it will be good with the lamb curry I'm about to tuck into too.
Thank you Shed!They're loving what you're doing!
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Week 2 update
They are developing the third node now. In a few days they will be ready to up-pot.
They are developing the third node now. In a few days they will be ready to up-pot.
You're hitting all the marks perfectly Carmen!
SnoopingAsUsualI
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They look great, yet I wonder...are they well on phosphorous?Week 2 update
They are developing the third node now. In a few days they will be ready to up-pot.
Love the chart! So far so good!
Those plants might grow off the chart! 
Gee64
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I love the babies Carmen
. I don't know auto's at all other than watching you and Jon grow them, so this may be way off base as the one thing I do see regularly in auto grows is babies doing just about anything until they grow a couple real fan leaves and settle in, but if that were a photo period sprout I would say it's a bit too wet and in the next 7-14 days you will start to see yellowing and lose leaves.
They are showing too dark of green, and the slight mottling is the 1st sign of starvation due to oxygen deprivation. The water provides too much nitrogen and darkens them before starvation sets in.
But auto's are weird and you are right there with them, so trust your gut, but "the look" is in all 3, and they are different strains.
I would dry them down just a tad. Start the wet/dry cycle to push O2 in and grow roots out.
Lose the swick maybe?
You need the hallways in the soil to drain out, and to trust your soil carbon to keep roots hydrated.
That way soil carbon provides moisture while the soil hallways provide the air.
Water in the hallways is like closed doors. They will start to suffocate and starvation soon follows.
Once you uppot to cloth it will all be a moot point.
You need P to assimilate right now to avoid bugs in a few weeks. P requires lots of O2 as it's very labor intensive for the air breathing microbes in your soil.
But they are auto's so they may just be misbehaving
. I don't know auto's at all other than watching you and Jon grow them, so this may be way off base as the one thing I do see regularly in auto grows is babies doing just about anything until they grow a couple real fan leaves and settle in, but if that were a photo period sprout I would say it's a bit too wet and in the next 7-14 days you will start to see yellowing and lose leaves. They are showing too dark of green, and the slight mottling is the 1st sign of starvation due to oxygen deprivation. The water provides too much nitrogen and darkens them before starvation sets in.
But auto's are weird and you are right there with them, so trust your gut, but "the look" is in all 3, and they are different strains.
I would dry them down just a tad. Start the wet/dry cycle to push O2 in and grow roots out.
Lose the swick maybe?
You need the hallways in the soil to drain out, and to trust your soil carbon to keep roots hydrated.
That way soil carbon provides moisture while the soil hallways provide the air.
Water in the hallways is like closed doors. They will start to suffocate and starvation soon follows.
Once you uppot to cloth it will all be a moot point.
You need P to assimilate right now to avoid bugs in a few weeks. P requires lots of O2 as it's very labor intensive for the air breathing microbes in your soil.
But they are auto's so they may just be misbehaving
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Thank you Otter! We thought that until reading Gee man's post saying they are too wet, confirming Snoop's dx too.
Thank you! You obviously have a very well trained eye.
Thank you Jon!
What a lovely thing to say! Thank you GDB! I thought I was doing so well until Snoop and Gee spoke up about the P deficiency. I hope it is rescued in time!Those plants might grow off the chart!
Eeeps! Thanks for the heads up. Thank goodness you are around to notice these things. I have moved them onto the towel to reverse wick. Shit shit shit, I hope I have caught it in time Gee man!I love the babies Carmen
They are showing too dark of green, and the slight mottling is the 1st sign of starvation due to oxygen deprivation. The water provides too much nitrogen and darkens them before starvation sets in.
But auto's are weird and you are right there with them, so trust your gut, but "the look" is in all 3, and they are different strains.
I would dry them down just a tad. Start the wet/dry cycle to push O2 in and grow roots out.
Lose the swick maybe?
You need the hallways in the soil to drain out, and to trust your soil carbon to keep roots hydrated.
That way soil carbon provides moisture while the soil hallways provide the air.
Water in the hallways is like closed doors. They will start to suffocate and starvation soon follows.
Once you uppot to cloth it will all be a moot point.
You need P to assimilate right now to avoid bugs in a few weeks. P requires lots of O2 as it's very labor intensive for the air breathing microbes in your soil.
But they are auto's so they may just be misbehaving
Lekker chom. Happy you can get your grow on again.
I did the same with my recent swick grow Carmen. I'm pretty sure they'll recover okey dokey!
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It's such a good feeling! How's the vibe there with parliament tomorrow?
Fingers crossed. Thanks GDB!I did the same with my recent swick grow Carmen. I'm pretty sure they'll recover okey dokey!
Gee64
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Relax Carmen, It's OK. By tomorrow it will be like it never happened, and it could also be auto children being auto children, but no harm in drying down a bit.
If it was too much moisture it's the very early warning signs so you are good
Just don't go overboard towards dry. Start a wet/dry cycle on them, as in let them dry down a bit between waterings, and roots will go crazy. Myco loves it too.
It also warms the soil a bit as water is a coolant, and that added warmth, even tho it's only a fraction more, can make soil very robust when combined with air. You want water to move thru for roots to chase, but only a nice warm humid airy atmosphere left behind.
The carbon in your soil will act as a water sync and store moisture so you aren't as dry in there as you think.
Carbon stores about 4x its weight in water when fully hydrated. With no standing water that moist piece of carbon will warm from incoming air and make a nice steamy environment in the pot.
Greengoodness
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Carmen i use that same seedling mix soil very good and light. Sprouts love it.
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They do indeed Greengoodness, and I hope they are going to thrive in the big pots now. I up-potted the Blueberry and the MAC#1. The pot for the Red Mimosa XL Auto is still too soggy at the bottom for an up-pot. I have it outside in the sun, reverse wicking with the top covered.
Up-pot process:
First I covered the top of the pots in a thin layer of EWC (earth worm castings). I dug holes the size of the solo pots, sprayed the walls with Sea Brix solution and scattered some myco. I sprayed the roots of the plants with Sea Brix solution and sprinkled on more myco. The root balls were just tight enough to hold together into the hole whereupon they collapsed in. This is what I had hoped for. The roots should spread into the pot more easily if they are a little looser rather than compacted from the solo. One has to be gentle! I shake too much to stop and take photos. Here they are in their big pots with the RMXL waiting patiently for its pot to dry out a bit.
Gee64
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Nice work Carmen. They look like they never even noticed. This is going to be a great grow!
. They look like they never even noticed. This is going to be a great grow!