Cafe Racer Outdoor And Indoor, Perpetual Grow

danishoes21 said:
WOW plants grew so fast man. they are higher than the fence in 10 days that's awesome :bravo:

If you are keen to control the height you still have time to do some things. I may suggest tie down the plant to one side as horizontal as you feel confortable with and then put a screen on top (like chicken wire or any other screen) that would slow them down considerably with out hurting the plants, basically bend the plant and do a scrog.
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Thanks, man. Good idea! I happen to have alot of chicken wire. Used it to make the bottom of my indoor pots. Now if I can only level the canopy it should work fine.

I also have the frame cut and drilled for a scrog but these are pretty massive fan leafs and will have a bich of a time pulling them through the 4 inchh squares.
Cheers
 
scottreid1966 said:
Thanks Azi but it is the two on the left that has been undomed for over a week. Its the others that go curly after 5 minutes un-domed. Unfortunately I am usually asleep by lights out but can remove them a little early and try try it, thanks.
Just started some dandelion tea, thanks for the link in your signature.

I hope the yellowing goes well, I need two good ones for my perpetual grow.
Cheers.
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Tea is ready and my outdoor plants can really use it but after a week of sun, they are due for a watering with nutes.
My question is: Can I mix organic tea with my 20-20-20?
Cheers and have a great week-end.
 
Is your 20-20-20 salt based? The organic extracts are designed to work with microbes but salt based fertilizers poison the soil for organic life.

Probably wouldn't hurt anything as dandelion is less potent than other yard plants, but it does contain good N so be on the look out for signs of excess if you mix the two.
 
Azimuth said:
Is your 20-20-20 salt based? The organic extracts are designed to work with microbes but salt based fertilizers poison the soil for organic life.

Probably wouldn't hurt anything as dandelion is less potent than other yard plants, but it does contain good N so be on the look out for signs of excess if you mix the two.
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I don't believe so Azi. Nothing sodium or salt base in the ingredients, thanks.

I may have another problem though. As I was tying them down I heard a slight crack which grew into a big crack over-night. Do you think I need to close it up? I can use an O-ring.
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Have a good one,
Cheers. ;)
 
danishoes21 said:
If you manage to keep the crack clean and healthy It will probably heal and end up being a huge vessel to send juice thru the plant. Its probably good thing it did that now rather than later in flower. :snowboating:
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Agreed, but the opposing weight pulling against the crack is only going to increase with the weight of the flower buds. I'd try to stabilize it with ties or some. Can't quite envision your o-ring solution but I'd do something.
 
Azimuth said:
Agreed, but the opposing weight pulling against the crack is only going to increase with the weight of the flower buds. I'd try to stabilize it with ties or some. Can't quite envision your o-ring solution but I'd do something.
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Correct about the o-ring but maybe one on each opposing branch and wiring those tightly together.
Read your JMS and about to read the mini-me. I had nothing of the sorts under my maple trees and in the back just cedars which @danishoes21 said that soil is acidic. I ended up collecting some old and crumpled wood chips from underneath the raspberry bushes. That ground is always in the shade.
Do you think that they would have enough microbes on them to do the trick?
Thanks again for the 411 big buddy.
Cheers
 
Probably will. Best is undisturbed leaf duff that's been untouched for years if you can find it.

But honestly I've had much better results using fresh worm castings. And you don't really need much. If you don't keep worms yourself (and you should) you can find them pretty readily in the woods near old fallen trees and stuff. Little piles of castings next to the holes the worms go down into.
 
scottreid1966 said:
I don't believe so Azi. Nothing sodium or salt base in the ingredients, thanks.

I may have another problem though. As I was tying them down I heard a slight crack which grew into a big crack over-night. Do you think I need to close it up? I can use an O-ring.
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Have a good one,
Cheers. ;)
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Duct tape then a stick across with more durable tape then zip ties.
Asap.

Stay safe :cool:
Bill
 
Azimuth said:
Probably will. Best is undisturbed leaf duff that's been untouched for years if you can find it.

But honestly I've had much better results using fresh worm castings. And you don't really need much. If you don't keep worms yourself (and you should) you can find them pretty readily in the woods near old fallen trees and stuff. Little piles of castings next to the holes the worms go down into.
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Thank you, Azi. When I first joined, I read about worm farming. A 3 level kinda thing and will certainly look into it. The basement is cool and damp though the missus dehumidifies it. Waste of time if you ask me. :rofl:

For now, Canadian growers gave me 2 links that I may just find the worm castings.

Not quite sure about the leaf duff , the you-tube video had alot od wood chips. Next time I go kayaking, I'll go north side of the trees. Loving learning about organic ferts, Azi!
Thank you.
Cheers.
 
Bill284 said:
Duct tape then a stick across with more durable tape then zip ties.
Asap.

Stay safe :cool:
Bill
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Thanks, Bill. Hope all is well with your green house.
I had heavy gauged wiring got the branches to stick. Will check it out tomorrow for slippage. Tape if needed, probably.
As usual, great advice.
Cheers ;)

So much for tying them down @danishoes21 . Right back with the same height AFTER WIRING.LMFAO!
Maybe should have waited untill well AFTER I dosed it with the dandelion tea. Good advice though, i needed more discretion.
Gonna be interesting.
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That wire will cut into the stalk before too long. Bill's tape idea would work great, though.
 
scottreid1966 said:
Thanks, Bill. Hope all is well with your green house.
I had heavy gauged wiring got the branches to stick. Will check it out tomorrow for slippage. Tape if needed, probably.
As usual, great advice.
Cheers ;)

So much for tying them down @danishoes21 . Right back with the same height AFTER WIRING.LMFAO!
Maybe should have waited untill well AFTER I dosed it with the dandelion tea. Good advice though, i needed more discretion.
Gonna be interesting.
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Good work Scott, get handy with what ever you can. Uhm Im thinking there is a moment in the life of the plant that the stem seems softer and more flexible thats the good time to bend and wire, when the plant starts to build up and set for flower I noticed the stem gets rock solid and less flexible, perhaps why you got a crack on the base. If you didnt see wilting at all I interpret that as there is enough plant fiber still connected to supply all the energy and fluid demanded. She is probably working on healing that part.
If you feel too much risk to bend the plant and them put the scrog, perhaps build the scrog couple inches under the fence line and that will put a hold on the stretch, because she will keep going up at least all of July.

Im sure this plant is gonna give you lots of bud considering just that crack will create a good stress effect on her. You could compare with the other plants later.

Have a good week.

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Started my first Dynomyco clone a few days ago. It is much younger than the other two but am wondering if it will catch up.
My worm castings arrived today and would like to top dress all my indoor plants. Do I need to cover it with a bit of soil afterwards?
Bitch is, I just waterred my 2 girls in the bigger pots downstairs and the castings arrived shortly after. :(
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Cheers.
 
My castings are fresh and dry in a cake to a cement-like finish if I don't cover them with mulch. If yours are already dry and look like miniature ball bearings I would imagine they would be fine as a simple, stand-alone top dress.
 
Azimuth said:
My castings are fresh and dry in a cake to a cement-like finish if I don't cover them with mulch. If yours are already dry and look like miniature ball bearings I would imagine they would be fine as a simple, stand-alone top dress.
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This is like moist soil, still humid. It is from a soil company but it didn't say anything about being mixed with soil.. First time buying soooo hmmm.
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