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[NickHardy]

Man Instopped hitting wuote even before I got tothe pkant uodates

Basically I either agree or agree with laughing emoji added. . All these and more. Epic post.

Nick

the guys i work with literally demand that i'm "on the meds" when doing a show

i don't normally recognize them either,

Me too! Kool
From Kool in the Ga g? I get shoehorned in to some VIP area to meet a guy. He was just a nice old dude, asked his name after a chat about something and nothing. Just Hong Kong really. Asked his name -

“Oh I’m cool!, man!”
- You’re definitely cool man, but what’s your name, man?
“No, my name is Kool, you onow from Kool & The Gang? (They were like headline act at Clockenflap a music festival that weekend

He was Kool about it as you would expect. His much you get nephew, now manager got really upset like I’d dissed him by nit onowing who Kool was. Dunno! We had a nice chat before I needed to know he was in the music biz! Me a d aroger Taylor (he’s godfather to my oldest mates wife - yeah told him stop phyo bombing my photos at a wedding. No idea who it was!

at the peak get worked like rented donkeys,

Ha - umm some jokes about donkeys and tower blocks in south asia over the years

you'd be gobsmacked by how many sound and lighting techs both test in the adhd spectrum.

Nah. No - I wouldn’t. I’m a techy. More pure IT, networking type stuff - ai’m not goingbto be surprised

Cool man - even before the plants stuff - they look awesome. Bang the Cal Mag. Already they look even better!

Enjoy!

Nick

 

[bluter]

Man Instopped hitting wuote even before I got tothe pkant uodates

easy there. at least cough the smoke out once before hitting post

Basically I either agree or agree with laughing emoji added. . All these and more. Epic post.

Nick







Me too! Kool
From Kool in the Ga g? I get shoehorned in to some VIP area to meet a guy. He was just a nice old dude, asked his name after a chat about something and nothing. Just Hong Kong really. Asked his name -

“Oh I’m cool!, man!”
- You’re definitely cool man, but what’s your name, man?
“No, my name is Kool, you onow from Kool & The Gang? (They were like headline act at Clockenflap a music festival that weekend

He was Kool about it as you would expect. His much you get nephew, now manager got really upset like I’d dissed him by nit onowing who Kool was. Dunno! We had a nice chat before I needed to know he was in the music biz! Me a d aroger Taylor (he’s godfather to my oldest mates wife - yeah told him stop phyo bombing my photos at a wedding. No idea who it was!

it's neat to have a rock star moment. it's harder to deal with it in a melt down moment lol

sammy kershaw had a fit at one of our shows over a film crew. for understandable contract reasons he didn't want an unauthorized concert footage floating out on the internet etc ..

the film crew were there for another reason and weren't violating the show contract. i had previous knowledge of it.

at a key point in the show sammy took a break and went backstage and had a firestorm. there was about a dozen folk around him, he was refusing to take the stage.

the monitor tech made me aware of what was up, it was all happening about 20ft from me. all i had for authority was a nice looking shirt with our company name on it.

sammy wanted to know wtf the film crew was up to. so, i waded in, parting the crowd around him, pointed directly at him, and said "sammy, I'm going to make that happen for you" .. before anyone said a word i turned and left.

he went back on stage. told the crowd there was a technical issue, asked over the pa if it was being resolved, i didn't even look at the stage, and just thrust my thumb in the air.

sammy said "awesome" did a 25 minute encore, and all was good. i talked to the promoter and had the camera guys meet him backstage.

before he left he demanded to know who we were and then met to thank us directly. when he comes through now we work the shows.

 

[bluter]

i'm in ticked off mode today. plants keep sliding on me. i pulled the ec meter out and on testing it looks like my suspicions are confirmed. i'm pretty certain i'm missing all or most of the the cal-mag that the nute is supposed to carry.

also the way my meter measures is super confusing. i flipped it from ppm to track in ec, and i either got it right, or royally fucked up on user error. we're gonna find out soon.

 

[Sparkey224]

i'm in ticked off mode today. plants keep sliding on me. i pulled the ec meter out and on testing it looks like my suspicions are confirmed. i'm pretty certain i'm missing all or most of the the cal-mag that the nute is supposed to carry.

also the way my meter measures is super confusing. i flipped it from ppm to track in ec, and i either got it right, or royally fucked up on user error. we're gonna find out soon.

Least you know what happened! That's the majority of the mtn.
I know you already know this but maybe I'm slow..
But always add cal/mag first. Chill for a minute and add nutrients. I only go by ph and ppms... nothing over 1000 ppms unless it's a big ass plant. Ph in promix @5.8 nutrients/water until runoff everytime.
Add a watering every 3to 4 feeds...
passing it to ya bro, going to be a great day

 

[bluter]

Least you know what happened! That's the majority of the mtn.
I know you already know this but maybe I'm slow..
But always add cal/mag first. Chill for a minute and add nutrients. I only go by ph and ppms... nothing over 1000 ppms unless it's a big ass plant. Ph in promix @5.8 nutrients/water until runoff everytime.
Add a watering every 3to 4 feeds...
passing it to ya bro, going to be a great day

i'm on mc which reacts different. the calmag portion tends to remain undissolved and unavailable until an outside source is added, then it kinda melts and dissolves.

so i'm checking it first without, and letting the nute dissolve 12hrs overnight before adding calmag. the nute doesn't drop out of suspension like a bottle nute would.

i went to ec as a control. i'm following suggested amounts of the nute, and adding in about 2/3 of a regular dose of calmag to get to the desired levels.

 

[NickHardy]

Does your meter go like Ph PPM EC Salt some of the numbers PLM and like Salts are the same. Big chunky tapered tube thing?

Took me ages but the EC divide by 1000 foes it make sense? Reading like 600 (wuss) become 0.6 and reading like 3200 is 3.2 (normal )

Sorry not meaning to grandma and eggs but it confused me for months and if today taught me… checking the basics of the the problem is never a bad thing!

Hope you get a fix in. Everything has looked pretty awesome so far!

Nick

 

[bluter]

Does your meter go like Ph PPM EC Salt some of the numbers PLM and like Salts are the same. Big chunky tapered tube thing?

Took me ages but the EC divide by 1000 foes it make sense? Reading like 600 (wuss) become 0.6 and reading like 3200 is 3.2 (normal )

Sorry not meaning to grandma and eggs but it confused me for months and if today taught me… checking the basics of the the problem is never a bad thing!

Hope you get a fix in. Everything has looked pretty awesome so far!

Nick

i been sorta absent. everything went sideways a bit. i think i figured it out. one way or another they are getting a jolt. i'm up potting today.

i'm not sure i'm reading the ec meter correct, but it's hitting the values i expected when i add the calmag. i'm gonna do a deeper dive into the meter and see if i've made a mistake.

the only difference is the amount of calmag, and i'm pretty certain i haven't got the full nute availability out of it either.

i'm gonna be way heavy on N though. not so thrilled about that.

 

[LKABudMan]

i been sorta absent. everything went sideways a bit. i think i figured it out. one way or another they are getting a jolt. i'm up potting today.

i'm not sure i'm reading the ec meter correct, but it's hitting the values i expected when i add the calmag. i'm gonna do a deeper dive into the meter and see if i've made a mistake.

the only difference is the amount of calmag, and i'm pretty certain i haven't got the full nute availability out of it either.

i'm gonna be way heavy on N though. not so thrilled about that.

I use MC with no calmag and never have a problem, of course we could have different versions. I have four in RDWC on MC looking healthy and happy. Have you tried skipping the calmag?

 

[Sparkey224]

I use MC with no calmag and never have a problem, of course we could have different versions. I have four in RDWC on MC looking healthy and happy. Have you tried skipping the calmag?

You use well water LKABudMan ?

 

[LKABudMan]

You use well water LKABudMan ?

I do. My water is about 100 ppm, fairly soft. It does have some ca & mg though.

 

[bluter]

I use MC with no calmag and never have a problem, of course we could have different versions. I have four in RDWC on MC looking healthy and happy. Have you tried skipping the calmag?

i'm using version 1 on RO. the last few runs i've needed cal mag from mid veg forward, never this early or in these amounts though.

edit : i'm pretty sure my light rigs pull a lot out. just not to the level i'm seeing here. i've upped the nute to the point i'm feeding at late veg levels and i've only just hit up pot. i ran other nutes in hempy with calmag and haven't seen this happen this early ever.

 

[NickHardy]

I take “a bang it in from the moment they’re above ground,” with Cal Mag, even weekly flushes it will always still get put in.

I’m well water at about tree fiddy PPM and 7.0 - 7.2 Ph

Dutch P nutes. Flower we’re generally looking for 3.0EC (Co2 and lights at 8” so higher than most!)

Funnily enough I was reading some old messages between me and @Weffalo (anyone hears from him let me know, bit worried about him) and he was struggling with his then new Hanna Instruments EC tester on the same trying to get meaningful results. He tried the divide by 1000 then he used an online calculator and was messing with the offsets (I too had checked out this rabbit hole - think same calculator!) the. i bought around the same time two cheap EC only calculators. One permanently in the nute tank affixed the wall and a pen tester. Compared the three of them and got say 3187 - 3.1 and 3.2 No calculator required!

Some info Weff shared with me:

Yeah I'm trying to figure out how to get a proper EC reading now, it's confusing because there's 2 conductivity factors, 0.5 and 0.7.

I think I'm at 1180 ppms at 0.5 CF which according to a website online means my EC is 2360? (https://scienceinhydroponics.com/2021/04/the-ultimate-ec-to-ppm-chart-and-calculator.html)

And:

And the reason the EC is so high is because that's with loads of amendments (Seaweed, Fulvic acid, Silica & bloom booster). I need to read the EC after I've added just the Tri-Part (NPK)

Finally:

That's what I did initially but after Googling I think what I posted in the thread is accurate. The equation needs to take into account the CF (Conductivity Factor) of the meter which is 0.5

Turn out his tester actually did what he wanted. It was page 146 in the online manual
i found him

Sure he won’t mind me sharing that to help a fellow member out. That was his Plant of the Month grow from April too!

If anyone hears from him please let me know, he grows in Europe. Always worry about him!

Nick

 

[bluter]

I take “a bang it in from the moment they’re above ground,” with Cal Mag, even weekly flushes it will always still get put in.

I’m well water at about tree fiddy PPM and 7.0 - 7.2 Ph

i'm about the same on municipal. i knock it through the RO filter which leaves me in the 1 - 10 ppm range.

i'm running mc though which is supposed to carry a load of calmag with it. i shouldn't be pouring it in to the plant like it was a thirsty drunk.

Funnily enough I was reading some old messages between me and @Weffalo (anyone hears from him let me know, bit worried about him) and he was struggling with his then new Hanna Instruments EC tester on the same trying to get meaningful results.

i stopped using the thing for so long i had to reset it. i tried to change it from ppm to ec and think i may have pooched my calibration. i could have tracked ppm, but ec is universal and tracks more what the plant uses.

He tried the divide by 1000 then he used an online calculator and was messing with the offsets (I too had checked out this rabbit hole - think same calculator!) the. i bought around the same time two cheap EC only calculators. One permanently in the nute tank affixed the wall and a pen tester. Compared the three of them and got say 3187 - 3.1 and 3.2 No calculator required!

i'm gonna test my tap water and see if the math works out next.

 

[NickHardy]

but ec is universal and tracks more what the plant uses.

Yeah just Ph and EC for me before it goes in. Not looked at PPM or runoff metrics in a couple of months. That’ll probably come back to bite me at some point!

Nick

 

[bluter]

Yeah just Ph and EC for me before it goes in. Not looked at PPM or runoff metrics in a couple of months. That’ll probably come back to bite me at some point!

i got used to the nute being consistent. i could measure and mix and be confident the ec/ppm were in line with the feed chart. somethings changed a bit, i think the nute is just getting old.

i checked the ec meter this morning after fighting with it all day yesterday. it wasn't returning consistent values. i reset to factory settings, but that wipes out the calibration. at least now i'm getting consistent results from ec to ppm. i'll have to recalibrate it and lock in the calibration.

i'll recalibrate to ec, the ppm pulls the values from that.

 

[NickHardy]

Oh man - I’m never changing nutes!

Not if I can help it!

No comment how good they are, the reseller is awful at communication and shipping but at leasts its localish and 20L - 5G available I’m sold. But please please don’t make me learn a new brand! It was so hard



Nick

 

[bluter]

had a bunch of unhappy plants yesterday

issues crept in and everyone was looking underfed. i have to go out of town on shows and needed them stable for an up pot. i had noted trouble with calmag already, it's like it was missing from the nute or dropping out of suspension.


i've been feeding by measure and decided to check it against ppm/ec. my meter went haywire, resulting in an up pot into a super hot feed. i didn't realize and went ahead with it anyway.


here they are a bit grumpy after the move.

you can see where they paled out in the last 48 hrs before up pot. the calmag and feed trouble i saw in the gelato started creeping into the acapulco gold.


you can see this gelato taking a beating.

the new stuff is consistently coming in great, and even has better colour than what i'd expect of a hungry plant, but it's clearly showing a calmag problem, and seems generally hungry. it's not at all consistent with the amounts ive been feeding.


i upped the nutes to full late veg, and added a 2/3 dose of calmag. this put my ec through the roof and well in flower territory.


no one was bitching this morning though, and i even got some lift out of the droopy acapulco in the back corner.

i'm worried about how hot they got fed, but they seem to need it. at present my choices are leave it alone, flush and refeed, or simply refeed now that i have my meter giving consistent values back again.

probably gonna let them sit for a day or two, but that means no one is checking them until i get back from the road. getting too old for out of town shows. i may be in for a burn.


i've mixed the next feed lower with some headroom to add calmag. i pulled it back a touch from full late veg levels.

i mix regular amounts, so i'm gonna measure ec, and then add calmag til i hit an ec / ppm i like. that should give me a base level so i can add the calmag ahead of time before the nutes going forward.

Oh man - I’m never changing nutes!

Not if I can help it!

lol. what are you running ? are you on mc as well ?

my nutes are going on 5yrs old. i put them in the blender to bust it up so i could use them this time lol.

 

[bluter]

things perked up here a fair bit while i been gone.

they are ready for a topping. i let them grow well past the nodes i use to make sure they were stable. the massive over-feed didn't even phase them.

i pulled nutes back a touch for this next feed, but they could probably stay where they are. i'll watch close, now that i've got the meter working i'll track ec.

real colour pic of the acapulco gold

this is the gelato that grew through the issues

they are gonna get a feed and then a topping. i'm gonna take them back to node 4. i'll wait another 3 days or so then clean out the bottom node, keeping 2, 3, 4.

 

[Azimuth]

Maybe you should go away more often, like build it in to each grow.

 

[bluter]

Maybe you should go away more often, like build it in to each grow.

i'm not sure i could be away another day. 2 - 3 is the most they can sit by themselves at this stage. it gets shorter fairly soon. i can still get an out of town show in right now.