4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG - 1200 Watts

Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

I'd like to hear some feedback on when you guys think I should flip the lights.

One minute I think "man they grow so fast in this aero you'd better flip them tomorrow"........and the next minute I tell myself " Wait 2 weeks you impatient noob"....... lol

Plus I'm surprised we don't have any bets on Soniq's over/under of 35 ounces yet. :(
 
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420fied just learning, is there any disadvantages to waiting another 2 weak and is there any upside to starting 12/12 right now. What is your thinking. I would like to learn what is the possible problems with either decision.. Sorry the more Knowledge is obtain know the less mistake I will make when I get my indoor up and running. Thanks again awesome grow...
 
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sonzor said:
420fied just learning, is there any disadvantages to waiting another 2 weak and is there any upside to starting 12/12 right now. What is your thinking. I would like to learn what is the possible problems with either decision.. Sorry the more Knowledge is obtain know the less mistake I will make when I get my indoor up and running. Thanks again awesome grow...
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Good question....

I've never scrogged with aero but I do know that this strain stretches 2 1/2x in soil so I expect a similar stretch here.

The screen is roughly 50% full right now. I wont be able to wait too much longer simply because the back end of my net is going to overgrow if I do.

Therefore, I'm guessing that by the end of the month, I'll flip them to 12/12.

If the net were ideally positioned I'd wait a little longer.

If I flip them on the last day of June that means they will have vegged for 51 days(7 weeks and change) from the time the first roots showed. Today is their 34th day in veg....which amazes me. They've grown so darn fast which I love.

At this point it's a waiting game..... but the timing is going to be critical for sure.



ANYWAYYYYYYY.... to answer your question..... obviously the downside to flipping your plants early will be that your screen doesnt fill out and your yield will suffer.

When I first started growing I tried to scrog and made this error.....

Then if you wait TOO long your plants will overgrow your screen and you have a real mess. An overgrown screen is very hard to manage and you have plants fighting for light. I'm going to push the edge with mine because I want YIELD baby.

What you want is an even, well ventilated bed of buds. The beauty of the scrog is that all of your buds get the benefit of the light beaming down on them..... there's no popcorn bud....all colas...and every one of your colas will think it's at the top of the plant ....a nice extra. Get rid of the undergrowth a little at a time so that your plants can concentrate on making BUDS up top instead of providing food to those shaded leaves below the net.

You won't grow super large colas but there will be more yield per sqaure foot than any other method if done right.

I do not claim to be an expert but I believe that knowing when to flip your lights has a lot to do with your familiarity with the strain that you're growing and how it stretches.

Some guides you read will say to flip the lights as soon as the plants hit the screen but this is if you're going by the 1 plant per square foot rule... I'd have to have 20 plants since I have a 4x5 net... I only have 9 hence my longer veg cycle.

You'll read guides that tell you to flip your lights when your screen is anywhere from 40 to 80% full.

Personally, all variables being equal I lean towards the 60 -65% full crowd, but that's just me.

I certainly don't claim to be an expert but I'll try and answer as best I can.
 
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Let me edit that last post.... I walked in the other room and noticed that the canopy was 5 inches above the screen so I decided to do a training session and re-evaluate.

Well much to my surprise the screen now looks a little more covered than I had originally thought,,,, either that or they just grew a lot in 3 days,,,,or I'm too stoned right now....lol.

Either way.... here's a picture. The screen is at about 60-65%. Knowing I've got a sizeable stretch ahead I am SERIOUSLY considering flipping the lights as of my next res change which is Sunday(day after tomorrow).


Time for bud porn?????

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Thanks for taking the time to give me all that great information. It is much appreciated. Looks like you are going to have a full screen of green in no time. Thanks again and great job...
 
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Amazing! I would flip the switch if I were you. I think you've done a great job veging them as long as possible. ;-)
 
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WOW, that looks freakin AWESOME!

Can't wait to see that screen of green pump out thos nugz! :smokin:
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

1200 watt hps aero grow with 9 plants. Dude, i wouldn't be surprised when you get an absolutely monster yield.
 
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:nicethread:well done 420fied this is an extremly informative journal which is taken dedication to achieve i'm really looking forward to seeing your progress during the 12/12 period, 4 oz's a plant cant wait and you surely deserve it for your persistance on your quest for greater YEILD great grow man keep up the great work +reps if i can :goodjob::ganjamon:
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

Thanks everyone. The lights get flipped today!

In fact, they go off at 7AM. Res change today as well.

I'll be feeding them Connoisseur A&B from Advanced Nutrients. I'll start them at 400 PPM today and for the first week, I may peak to 500 between weeks 2-7, and then back to 300 for week 8. I'll flush with plain RO water for the last week(9).

Others(Earl) have proven that you don't need to choke your plants with 1000PPM to get decent yield....especially with these specific nutes.

Light nute loads and frequesnt res changes.
 
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I decided to take some pics when I changed the res. Here are the last shots of the canopy in veg.

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I made sure to calibrate my monitors... they were right on.

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A look inside the res. I added an air pump with dual hoses about a month ago to increase the DO in the res. Plenty of action in there.

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With the attached pricetag, I sure hope these AN nutes live up to their billing.

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As long as this journal has been, I feel like we are rounding the final turn and heading for home. By College Football season we'll be 'sittin pretty'.

PPM = 400
PH = 5.6
Room temp = 74 with lights on, 66 with lights off
Res temp = 66

I'm going to go check on our two outdoor beauties next week and I'll provide picture updates then. Stay tuned!
 
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420fied said:
By College Football season we'll be 'sittin pretty'.
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You had to remind me... It is so hard for me to wait those long months for football season. Oh, and yes you will be sittin quite nice. ;-)
 
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