Xlr8's Hydroponic Adventures & Photos From The Garden - 2012

Hi :surf:

Well, I try to look both places actually for ambering. Occassionally it seems the sugar leaves amber sooner than the buds (sounds like you are seeing that, too), so I do check there too by pulling a popcorn bud. I usually sample them afterwards, by quick-drying them, or I let them dry a couple of days on their own to gauge the "high". If I really like the high, and the other signs are there that it's done/almost done, I initiate flushing for a few days, then harvest.

When I burp, I usually take the lid off. Then I roll the buds around inside the jar or gently shake them while turning the jar in my hands kinda sideways, just trying to dislodge stuck buds and make sure air is getting in there to all parts, so to speak. Then I screw the lid on, and do the same with other jars. And oh YEAH, I take a few big ole whiffs for fun!! :) If it's early in the process and they seem especially damp/moist to me I might even dump them into a little paper bag or bowl for a couple of minutes or longer before re-drying them.

I know you've been battling humidity in your grow room, and I started to wonder if you were certain your hygrometer was accurate. They are notoriously inaccurate out of the box, so to speak. One of the most difficult things I've dealt with is finding reliable hygrometers it seems like. I feel like the ones from the big box retailers are almost wrong more often than right. I was actually going to bring this up before you brought up the question on the humidipaks...

My humidipaks do read right around 62% (+/- one or two percent). I'm very new to using them, so I can only hazard guesses as to why they wouldn't be working correct. First are you certain you have the 62's? It should say on the front I think. They do also make 70% versions, too (or 72 maybe). Otherwise, perhaps you did put them in too early as you suggested? Not sure what the right number is for them, but I put (2) per quart jar, which for me usually holds 3/4 - 1z of MMJ, and the RH has been accurate (right around 62 the variance might be my hygrometer(s)).

Hey X pulled a lower nug tonight of the NL to see since I got my microscope in the mail, and, well, you can see it's not quite ready:
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The sugar leaves do have amber already though.

OK I thought burping might last longer than that, but burps don't last that long when they come out of my stomach anyway :) I think the big whiffs actually help in the air exchange... inhale that moist air, and the vaccum is replaced by whatever ambient air around your face. I like the idea of *if they're super wet to re-dry, I was forced to do another jar open cycle. Now it seems to settle around 65 on my shitty hygrometer, which is about 62 on my digi. (I calibrated them against eachother by sitting them next to eachother overnight when I first got the dial one).

I have not yet tested the other humidipaks against my digi in a bag, but I just chucked one in with my 65% (on the dial) bud, so we'll see if it goes up by tomorrow morning.

Thanks for the tips as always, this is a great journal to learn stuff :)
 
:cheesygrinsmiley: thanks on the weight loss!

I can give you the direct link to the blog of it, or I can do the link to it in my my journal... Which would you prefer?

The journal post
The Blog post

Of course you can re-blog it! I'd be honored! WOW! I posted something that's going in one of the best blogs in 420Mag?! just.... WOW! Thank you!

Added to my blog - thanks my friend! :thumb:

As far as the blog... I do feel like I've amassed some quality info there now, but it's too bad blogs aren't visited more here. I appreciate the kind words. Thank for taking the time to lay all that out for everyone. I have some of those "exhale" co2 bags right now, but maybe I'll give your DIY a try when these run dry... :thumb:
 
Hey X pulled a lower nug tonight of the NL to see since I got my microscope in the mail, and, well, you can see it's not quite ready:
NL-micro1.jpg
NL-micro.jpg

The sugar leaves do have amber already though.

OK I thought burping might last longer than that, but burps don't last that long when they come out of my stomach anyway :) I think the big whiffs actually help in the air exchange... inhale that moist air, and the vaccum is replaced by whatever ambient air around your face. I like the idea of *if they're super wet to re-dry, I was forced to do another jar open cycle. Now it seems to settle around 65 on my shitty hygrometer, which is about 62 on my digi. (I calibrated them against eachother by sitting them next to eachother overnight when I first got the dial one).

I have not yet tested the other humidipaks against my digi in a bag, but I just chucked one in with my 65% (on the dial) bud, so we'll see if it goes up by tomorrow morning.

Thanks for the tips as always, this is a great journal to learn stuff :)

Cool pics - congrats on the scope! I'm jealous of all you guys with your cool scopes (I'll get one eventually). I'm not sure how I burp is the best way or anything... just how it's worked for me. You've had some great questions because some things (burping, where to check for amber to name a couple) get talked about constantly but rarely does anyone explain the actual process in detail. When I started growing this really drove me nuts! Heck, I still don't know if I do this things "correctly" but I am happy to share what has worked for me... :)

One thing I feel compelled to re-mention or emphasize, I really want to see the calyx's swollen, the pistils receding and the buds to appear fully "plumped". Then, I look at the ambering and sample them. Sometimes, they're done even if there is very little amber in the buds or leaves (I've had a couple plants that just didn't amber even when they were "done".)

The Lavender plant I grew, I harvested in two stages. The second stage was nearly 10 weeks. The bud from the second harvest was very narcotic/sleepy in it's effect (way too much so in my opinion) and there was hardly any "amber" color on the trichomes! The first harvest around week 8? was nearly perfect. It was still an indica experience, but I got to stay awake for some of it... ;) Had I just gone by amber, the plant would have been ruined. In retrospect, I feel like I did ruin part of it by not harvesting it all the first time. It's taken me awhile to appreciate how different the "high" is between the early and late harvests, and how much I dislike the later harvested results. The bud from the first harvest I now think of as one of the best indicas I've grown! I save the other (the part I harvested at about 10 weeks) for just before bedtime or when I have insomnia only - true story!
 
Okay, as mentioned I went through with a machete last night and cleared out excess foliage. By machete, I mean my fingers and a small scissors... ;) I ended up nearly filling a brown paper bag, and it took quite a while. It's times like that where you think back to how long it took them to develope that 2nd set of leaves as a seedling. At what point did there get to be so many leaves that it takes an hour or more just to remove the excess?!? ;)

I also trimmed off some little sucker branches that weren't ever going to compete with the canopy above successfully, and generally cleaned them up around the base. By the end they were looking a bit ragged and beat up from the handling and defoliating, but they should bounce right back - I'm guessing by tonight you'd never even know they'd been so mutilated. I'll probably pluck here and there moving forward, and I could have gone farther, but this was a good start! :)



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New look from above - oh yeah, there IS a floor under there!
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Looking a little beat up, but much less crowded:
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Chocolope:
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Deadhead OG:
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Cool pics - congrats on the scope! I'm jealous of all you guys with your cool scopes (I'll get one eventually). I'm not sure how I burp is the best way or anything... just how it's worked for me. You've had some great questions because some things (burping, where to check for amber to name a couple) get talked about constantly but rarely does anyone explain the actual process in detail. When I started growing this really drove me nuts! Heck, I still don't know if I do this things "correctly" but I am happy to share what has worked for me... :)

One thing I feel compelled to re-mention or emphasize, I really want to see the calyx's swollen, the pistils receding and the buds to appear fully "plumped". Then, I look at the ambering and sample them. Sometimes, they're done even if there is very little amber in the buds or leaves (I've had a couple plants that just didn't amber even when they were "done".)

The Lavender plant I grew, I harvested in two stages. The second stage was nearly 10 weeks. The bud from the second harvest was very narcotic/sleepy in it's effect (way too much so in my opinion) and there was hardly any "amber" color on the trichomes! The first harvest around week 8? was nearly perfect. It was still an indica experience, but I got to stay awake for some of it... ;) Had I just gone by amber, the plant would have been ruined. In retrospect, I feel like I did ruin part of it by not harvesting it all the first time. It's taken me awhile to appreciate how different the "high" is between the early and late harvests, and how much I dislike the later harvested results. The bud from the first harvest I now think of as one of the best indicas I've grown! I save the other (the part I harvested at about 10 weeks) for just before bedtime or when I have insomnia only - true story!

Hiya X,
I am stoked on the scope, $27 delivered in four days from order. Still figuring out what background will work best with it to be able to see the trichs properly with white bal, etc. but it's fun to play with!

Thanks for saying I ask great questions... sometimes I wonder how noob I must sound to you folks and hope it doesn't get irritating :)

I appreciate your re-mentioning about the various "ripe tells" swollen callyx, receeding hairs and amber, as my girls are still throwing out new hairs and swelling, so they are certainly not ready, even though some sugar leaves show amber (which could be from being to close to the lights too I think?)

Thanks for your experience on the Lavendar... I'll make sure to take samples to test them (I've only taken one from NL, time to do the same for Big Bud) although these are for pain killer for mom, so later is better, right? I plan to make oil with most of it for a shoulder ointment.

Thanks again for the encouragement and info! +reps
 
nice mate, you can see the floor now, do you always remove leaf, i dont have as many plants but i remove the odd leaf here and their, i have removed a lot more off my monster cropped plants cuz below the canopy no light was getting to the lower branches, so had to remove a few leaves, how ever when i read to remove all the fan leaves off my hempie when it was in flower, it said to just leave the top and bottom set of fan leaves, well i done this and i ended up with more leaf than i started with, made trimming the buds a lot harder, it has not made the bud taste leafy though which im suprised about, i thought id would taste and smell shady
 
Re: Xlr8's Hydroponic Adventures and Photos from the Garden - 2012

Wow, flowering plants have reallly taken off. It's like they're on steroids the last few days, but we are at that time... about day 15? of bloom. The Deadhead OG is really trying to stretch on me, and it was the one that was difficult last grow, too. Overall though the canopy is still pretty even, but I'm running out of room and places to move things to as far as tying down branches.. I can't wait to clean it up in there and do some defoliation, etc.

I saw a tiny little bug near the grow room last night, but the thing hopped away like it was rocket launched before I could ID it. Sigh. So, I sprayed the perimeter of grow room with Home Defense Max, sprinkled diatemacious earth on top of the coir and around the plants in veg. I also stayed "out of" of the bloom tent last night, choosing only to peek through a window (my tent has windows that velcro closed). I didn't see wings on the bug in the brief moment I saw it, and it did seem to "hop" when I got close to it. I'm hoping that whatever it is, it succombs to the Hot Shot pest strip or some other defense before it gets to the plants or lays eggs, etc. Maybe it's just a harmless thing, too. I freak now at the thought of dealing with another pest invasion!

Other than that, things look good. I wanted to get into the tent to move things around and change bulbs (still have MH in there), but thought it most prudent to limit access due to seeing the bug.

I'll try to get some pics tonight.


Maybe you'll be lucky and the bug is a predator/symbiotic bug... I hope so...
 
Excellent information on harvesting! I have always used the trich color as the golden rule in the past but no more. I have grown a lot of plants past the maturity date. It has been good for the overall yield but the quality was much less.

I also wanted to fess up. I have been using the air pots for over a year now. When you posted the other the day the correct top and bottom to the pot I looked and half of my pots were upside down. No wonder I had to pour the water in the pots super slow!

You are right about the blogs. I need to visit them more too. I know they are on the site. I just need to make more time. I think that Jandres homemade CO2 generator is really nice. Also the knat control posted by someone else. Your journal is loaded with information. That could be why the blogs are slow!!
:circle-of-love:
 
Added to my blog - thanks my friend! :thumb:

As far as the blog... I do feel like I've amassed some quality info there now, but it's too bad blogs aren't visited more here. I appreciate the kind words. Thank for taking the time to lay all that out for everyone. I have some of those "exhale" co2 bags right now, but maybe I'll give your DIY a try when these run dry... :thumb:

I'd be interested in finding out what fungus that is and maybe propagating it for myself. Sort of a self-sustaining symbiosis in my Flower Box. I know I may have to "add on" to the box for the light vs. fungus, but wouldn't it be cool to have your own air exchanger/scrubber? I could literally seal the box, and not ever have to buy CO2 again!

I do need you to add one thing to the CO2Gen blog if you would...

Every three months, dump 1/2 to 3/4 of the liquid (NOT ALL) and replace with pure water and 1/4C sugar.

This keeps alcohol from getting too high and killing off the yeast.
Hehe, I forgot that bread yeast was a lot different from wine/beer yeast and cannot survive the higher alcohol levels.
 
Hiya X,
I am stoked on the scope, $27 delivered in four days from order. Still figuring out what background will work best with it to be able to see the trichs properly with white bal, etc. but it's fun to play with!

Thanks for saying I ask great questions... sometimes I wonder how noob I must sound to you folks and hope it doesn't get irritating :)

I appreciate your re-mentioning about the various "ripe tells" swollen callyx, receeding hairs and amber, as my girls are still throwing out new hairs and swelling, so they are certainly not ready, even though some sugar leaves show amber (which could be from being to close to the lights too I think?)

Thanks for your experience on the Lavendar... I'll make sure to take samples to test them (I've only taken one from NL, time to do the same for Big Bud) although these are for pain killer for mom, so later is better, right? I plan to make oil with most of it for a shoulder ointment.

Thanks again for the encouragement and info! +reps

Hi SurfBuddy -

As I understand it, when you harvest late more THC is converted to CBN, which mimics the sleepy or narcotic effect of CBD. However, it isn't the CBN that is providing the medicinal effects which typically come from the THC and CBD. Best thing for pain relief is probably a good strain with a decent amount of CBD that is harvested at the appropriate time. I must confess I didn't understand this relationship correctly until recently, but this is my understanding/belief. So, I don't think later is better for the pain killing aspects.

Props to Jandre for helping me better correctly understand CBN (and Jandre correct me if I got that wrong!!).

In terms of amber trichomes, I believe the old stand-by idea of harvesting when trichomes are "50% amber, 50% milky" is too late, personally. (I am wincing with the expected backlash by that statement!) For me, it most often seems to be more like 15-25% amber, but as previously stated I've had them be "done" with less than that ambered.

One last thing - keep in mind that many (all?) plants will continue to produce new pistils right up to the end. Some sativas actually have "windows" for harvesting that open and close! They will ripen, look done/nearly done and then produce a whole new wave of new bud growth with white pistils, new calyx's and all. My Jack the Ripper from my last grow was a perfect example of this. The last three weeks it appeared to be "finishing" the ripening phase at least 4 times. This is similar to foxtailing, though that is sometimes caused by heat or stress, where this was a genetic thing that JTR is known for (and many other sativas). This is one reason I "study up" on whatever strains I'm growing, especially info from the breeder - but also grow journals, you tube videos, etc.

Oh, and I do think it's possible that being too close to the lights can cause early ambering - at least it's seemed that way to me, too, in the past...

:thankyou: for the reps :surf:
 
nice mate, you can see the floor now, do you always remove leaf, i dont have as many plants but i remove the odd leaf here and their, i have removed a lot more off my monster cropped plants cuz below the canopy no light was getting to the lower branches, so had to remove a few leaves, how ever when i read to remove all the fan leaves off my hempie when it was in flower, it said to just leave the top and bottom set of fan leaves, well i done this and i ended up with more leaf than i started with, made trimming the buds a lot harder, it has not made the bud taste leafy though which im suprised about, i thought id would taste and smell shady

Hi DPP -

Glad it didn't effect the taste!

I've defoliated almost not at all, a little, quite a bit. Right now I'm on "quite a bit". I don't pluck as much as some, but I do like to clean it up pretty good for better light penetration.

I tend to pluck here and there throughout the grow, mostly in bloom, but sometimes in veg, too (all the time on moms in veg). Based on watching some other growers here defoliate at around 21 days (typically toward the end of stretch period), I use that as a guideline for my first "major" plucking. I trim lower "sucker" branches and just about any fan leaf that is in the way of something. Then I do it again at about day 45, and I find by then it's a total jungle again if I haven't been randomly plucking much in between. :)
 
Re: Xlr8's Hydroponic Adventures and Photos from the Garden - 2012

Maybe you'll be lucky and the bug is a predator/symbiotic bug... I hope so...

Hi Paul -

Me too! It's been a few days now, and I haven't seen anything since on the plant or otherwise, so I'm hoping and crossing fingers and I'm :wood:.

Thanks for hoping with me - and great to hear from you! :)
 
Hi SurfBuddy -

As I understand it, when you harvest late more THC is converted to CBN, which mimics the sleepy or narcotic effect of CBD. However, it isn't the CBN that is providing the medicinal effects which typically come from the THC and CBD. Best thing for pain relief is probably a good strain with a decent amount of CBD that is harvested at the appropriate time. I must confess I didn't understand this relationship correctly until recently, but this is my understanding/belief. So, I don't think later is better for the pain killing aspects.

Props to Jandre for helping me better correctly understand CBN (and Jandre correct me if I got that wrong!!).

In terms of amber trichomes, I believe the old stand-by idea of harvesting when trichomes are "50% amber, 50% milky" is too late, personally. (I am wincing with the expected backlash by that statement!) For me, it most often seems to be more like 15-25% amber, but as previously stated I've had them be "done" with less than that ambered.

One last thing - keep in mind that many (all?) plants will continue to produce new pistils right up to the end. Some sativas actually have "windows" for harvesting that open and close! They will ripen, look done/nearly done and then produce a whole new wave of new bud growth with white pistils, new calyx's and all. My Jack the Ripper from my last grow was a perfect example of this. The last three weeks it appeared to be "finishing" the ripening phase at least 4 times. This is similar to foxtailing, though that is sometimes caused by heat or stress, where this was a genetic thing that JTR is known for (and many other sativas). This is one reason I "study up" on whatever strains I'm growing, especially info from the breeder - but also grow journals, you tube videos, etc.

Oh, and I do think it's possible that being too close to the lights can cause early ambering - at least it's seemed that way to me, too, in the past...

:thankyou: for the reps :surf:

Ont he CBN you are correct, according to my research.

I too now have shifted from 50/50 to 1% to 10% amber. I feel it's a bit better on the medicinal properties, and less of a knock-out punch when smoked.

My Dream Diesel (Blue Dream x Sour Diesel), formerly known as Thing2 until I smoked it and realized what I had, did the same thing with new pistils 3 or 4 times. I let it go 10/11 weeks once, and just chopped because I got tired of the start/stop. Missed the racy effect of the strain and flubbed it straight to crap for hash. Was a good smoke smoke for insomnia, but I like the "thoughtfulness" effect better of the strain when harvested on time.
 
Excellent information on harvesting! I have always used the trich color as the golden rule in the past but no more. I have grown a lot of plants past the maturity date. It has been good for the overall yield but the quality was much less.

I also wanted to fess up. I have been using the air pots for over a year now. When you posted the other the day the correct top and bottom to the pot I looked and half of my pots were upside down. No wonder I had to pour the water in the pots super slow!

You are right about the blogs. I need to visit them more too. I know they are on the site. I just need to make more time. I think that Jandres homemade CO2 generator is really nice. Also the knat control posted by someone else. Your journal is loaded with information. That could be why the blogs are slow!!
:circle-of-love:

Haha, I'm just perversely glad I'm not the only one who put those together upside down! It wasn't super obvious to me that there was a right and wrong way. The hydro store asked me if I knew how to put them together and I said -- "How hard can it be?" Doh! It makes a surprising difference, though.
Thanks for the props on the journal , CF. You rock! :high-five:
 
I'd be interested in finding out what fungus that is and maybe propagating it for myself. Sort of a self-sustaining symbiosis in my Flower Box. I know I may have to "add on" to the box for the light vs. fungus, but wouldn't it be cool to have your own air exchanger/scrubber? I could literally seal the box, and not ever have to buy CO2 again!

I do need you to add one thing to the CO2Gen blog if you would...

Hehe, I forgot that bread yeast was a lot different from wine/beer yeast and cannot survive the higher alcohol levels.

I added the fix to the blog, and made it look like it was always there. ;)

I've been growing my own fungus but turns out it's not good for CO2... so I finally showered. HHHIIIIIIOOOOOO! Seriously though, I like your idea but I'm having a hard time picturing how it would work. I'm medicated, though, so I'll give it another shot in the morning!
 
Ont he CBN you are correct, according to my research.

I too now have shifted from 50/50 to 1% to 10% amber. I feel it's a bit better on the medicinal properties, and less of a knock-out punch when smoked.

My Dream Diesel (Blue Dream x Sour Diesel), formerly known as Thing2 until I smoked it and realized what I had, did the same thing with new pistils 3 or 4 times. I let it go 10/11 weeks once, and just chopped because I got tired of the start/stop. Missed the racy effect of the strain and flubbed it straight to crap for hash. Was a good smoke smoke for insomnia, but I like the "thoughtfulness" effect better of the strain when harvested on time.

Cool - thanks for confirming that on the CBN. :high-five:

Tough to know when to harvest them when they keep stopping and starting, huh? I've really come to realize and understand better that I just don't like the effect of late harvested cannabis. Also, since a lot of my pain is nerve pain, I find that THC seems to be more effective than CBD for that type of pain, though they both help as I have a lot of non nerve pain, too.
 
I added the fix to the blog, and made it look like it was always there. ;)

I've been growing my own fungus but turns out it's not good for CO2... so I finally showered. HHHIIIIIIOOOOOO! Seriously though, I like your idea but I'm having a hard time picturing how it would work. I'm medicated, though, so I'll give it another shot in the morning!
:rofl: Padump-PSH!!
 
The gals in the bloom tent are perked right up and looking happy again.

Speaking of happy, I noticed last night when trimming/plucking that the Chocolope I'm growing smells exactly like the last one I grew. The last one, was (and still is) the best bud I've ever had. The OG Kush I just harvested is a really close runner up, and the only thing Chocolope had over it was the flavor.

Well, if the smell is any indicator, this new Chocolope plant has me really optimistic and hopeful that it'll be much like the last one I grew. This plant will be a much bigger yielder than that one though, which makes my smile even bigger. I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to having some more Chocolope jarred up!

I've noticed now that over time I can get a really good idea of what the flavor/taste will be based on the way the leaves smell once they begin flowering. It's not quite the same as the smell, but there is a very specific correlation that you can start to make after a while. Based on this, I'm also very excited about the Super Lemon Haze plants. I'm not thrilled with the way they grow much, but they sure smell good! They are frankly very very stretchy plants and not the prettiest looking things, but SLH has probably won as many competitions as any strain out there, so I'm looking forward to the end result for sure - and they smell a bit like lemonheads! :)
 
The gals in the bloom tent are perked right up and looking happy again.

Speaking of happy, I noticed last night when trimming/plucking that the Chocolope I'm growing smells exactly like the last one I grew. The last one, was (and still is) the best bud I've ever had. The OG Kush I just harvested is a really close runner up, and the only thing Chocolope had over it was the flavor.

Well, if the smell is any indicator, this new Chocolope plant has me really optimistic and hopeful that it'll be much like the last one I grew. This plant will be a much bigger yielder than that one though, which makes my smile even bigger. I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to having some more Chocolope jarred up!

I've noticed now that over time I can get a really good idea of what the flavor/taste will be based on the way the leaves smell once they begin flowering. It's not quite the same as the smell, but there is a very specific correlation that you can start to make after a while. Based on this, I'm also very excited about the Super Lemon Haze plants. I'm not thrilled with the way they grow much, but they sure smell good! They are frankly very very stretchy plants and not the prettiest looking things, but SLH has probably won as many competitions as any strain out there, so I'm looking forward to the end result for sure - and they smell a bit like lemonheads! :)

TAKE SOME CLONES NOW!! Heheh, don't wanna let that strain go, man. Just monster crop, and reveg the clones... I think it'll be worth it.
 
Hi SurfBuddy -

As I understand it, when you harvest late more THC is converted to CBN, which mimics the sleepy or narcotic effect of CBD. However, it isn't the CBN that is providing the medicinal effects which typically come from the THC and CBD. Best thing for pain relief is probably a good strain with a decent amount of CBD that is harvested at the appropriate time. I must confess I didn't understand this relationship correctly until recently, but this is my understanding/belief. So, I don't think later is better for the pain killing aspects.

Props to Jandre for helping me better correctly understand CBN (and Jandre correct me if I got that wrong!!).

In terms of amber trichomes, I believe the old stand-by idea of harvesting when trichomes are "50% amber, 50% milky" is too late, personally. (I am wincing with the expected backlash by that statement!) For me, it most often seems to be more like 15-25% amber, but as previously stated I've had them be "done" with less than that ambered.

One last thing - keep in mind that many (all?) plants will continue to produce new pistils right up to the end. Some sativas actually have "windows" for harvesting that open and close! They will ripen, look done/nearly done and then produce a whole new wave of new bud growth with white pistils, new calyx's and all. My Jack the Ripper from my last grow was a perfect example of this. The last three weeks it appeared to be "finishing" the ripening phase at least 4 times. This is similar to foxtailing, though that is sometimes caused by heat or stress, where this was a genetic thing that JTR is known for (and many other sativas). This is one reason I "study up" on whatever strains I'm growing, especially info from the breeder - but also grow journals, you tube videos, etc.

Oh, and I do think it's possible that being too close to the lights can cause early ambering - at least it's seemed that way to me, too, in the past...

:thankyou: for the reps :surf:
Thanks X (and Jandre) for the info about CBN vs CBD vs THC. I guess I was confusing CBN with CBD in my head, thinking that they both had better medicinal properties. In that case, I will be harvesting this week the big bud (have a look at my journal for todays bud snip) because I've got about 10% amber now.

Also thanks for the tip on continual pistil popping... I thought it would just stop at one point. I got these seeds from a site that did not specify breeders, so not even sure they are real... but the smell of bigbud is nostalgic for me, and so is the NL (although come to think of it it all had white hairs as I remember)

Thanks again!
:surf:
 
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