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Welcome to the thread bigdeal422, glad to have you aboard! That's a lot of reading! The thread became sooo long!
Woodsman's Northern Light #5 Grow
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Welcome to the thread bigdeal422, glad to have you aboard! That's a lot of reading! The thread became sooo long!
Hi Woodsman On the subject of CFLs I think of them in a different way.
Roseman is the expert so listen to him my friend for the best results
Roseman is the expert so listen to him my friend for the best results
MountainHigh
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I can tell you one thing for certain, ozone will reduce the potency of your pot and at higher levels can damage your plants. Think about it for a minute. You store your weed in airtight containers to protect it from oxygen degradation and O3 has a free radical O molecule that is just dying to oxidize something organic. It'll get rid of the smell but any left over after that job is done will eat away at the surface of your plants. If you want to use ozone to control odors you put it in your exhaust stream tied to the exhaust fan power.
I'm planning some changes to my grow room to control odors. My ozone machine at the beginning of 30' of 6" plastic flex hose so the ozone has time to neutralize odors before going outside. I can just run the hose around the perimeter of the ceiling to keep it out of the way. I just need to punch a 6" hole for my outlet.
C'ya
BTW I agree with Labrat, ozone isn't real good for your grow room. My two cheapo ozone CFL's are in my room, but not in the grow closet (some strip that releases it from the heat I think)...doesn't put out enough ozone to remove odor in my room so doubt much if any ozone makes it to the plants. It probably has zero contributing factor for my trichomes.
Maybe it was just TLC? Good timing on my nute changes? Enough light? Molasses
? Dry climate is the most likely candidate in my mind or luck... brother.
Spent this morning with my coffee and some Blue Dream reading this journal...nice grow Woodsman!! I love NL - especially as a cross.
I've never grown myself, and recently thought about it, but it's just too damn easy to get high quality cannabis in Northern Calif. that I can't justify the time investment.
Keep showing the picts - you're an inspiration to those of us that have yet to try.
I've never grown myself, and recently thought about it, but it's just too damn easy to get high quality cannabis in Northern Calif. that I can't justify the time investment.
Keep showing the picts - you're an inspiration to those of us that have yet to try.
OldMedUser
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I'm not certain that it would increase potency but it will definitely increase yield. Roseman has probably done a lot of research into it and may be quite correct about the potency increase for all I know. I should probably read that thread as I haven't seen a lot of the new stuff that has been posted in the last few weeks. I used to grow under 4' fluorescent lights and got great veg growth from them. I always used warm white and cool white bulbs together and the nodes grew close together and I got pie-plate sized fan leaves with them. They didn't flower as good as HID lighting as I found out when I got a 400W HPS for flowering.
OldMedUser
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Spent this morning with my coffee and some Blue Dream reading this journal...nice grow Woodsman!! I love NL - especially as a cross.
I've never grown myself, and recently thought about it, but it's just too damn easy to get high quality cannabis in Northern Calif. that I can't justify the time investment.
Keep showing the picts - you're an inspiration to those of us that have yet to try.
I think if you got into growing you would find that it's not just saving money that motivates us, it's all the warm fuzzy feelings you get when you sit down and get blazed from the first blast of killer bud that you grew with your own two hands. Then you're hooked and just have to see what else you can come up with.
It is definitely time well wasted!
afgooey
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amen
thanks for the invite, Woodsman. LONG read, but I read it all. I want to learn about soil growing, not so I can grow in soil, I just enjoy learning. Actually I am dumber than dirt when it comes to indoor soil growing but I have done some large outdoor grows in the past.
I'd never offer advice about anything that I did not have experience with or a lot of knowlege about. And CFLS are one thing I have read alot about and studied and also have alot of experience with. I just finished my 8th grow with all CFLs.
Two facts I can tell you that I am 100% certain of.
The sun does project lots more of one spectrum in March, April, May, and June,(Blue Spectrum) than it does in July, August, Sept, and October, (red spectrum). But it always projects BOTH. Mother Nature knows what she is doing and if she thinks plants need both, then plants need both. They just need more of one than the other, depending on the time of year (plant's cycle)
AND
I have carefully documented 5 of my 8 grows, (3 were not done at my house) and I am 100% convinced that although I need more 2700k rays in Flowering and less 6500K bulbs in flowering, the buds closest to the 6500k bulbs always show the trichs first and give me the most trichs too. I am positive of that.
If you look at this month's nug of the month contest, there are some awesome buds there grown with CFLs. Leave Weaver is a CFL grower with great buds entered in the contest, and he says he gets his with 4000 lumens per sq ft of plant space. That is not over-kill for sure. The sun produces 10,000 lumens per sq ft, yet he got some awesome, dense, trich covered buds. I'd like to see what spectrums he uses in Flowering.
Good luck with the light changes. I hope you see some difference.
Good luck on the job market too. I'm interested in how you making it. Like Hank Jr said, a country boy can survive.
I'd never offer advice about anything that I did not have experience with or a lot of knowlege about. And CFLS are one thing I have read alot about and studied and also have alot of experience with. I just finished my 8th grow with all CFLs.
Two facts I can tell you that I am 100% certain of.
The sun does project lots more of one spectrum in March, April, May, and June,(Blue Spectrum) than it does in July, August, Sept, and October, (red spectrum). But it always projects BOTH. Mother Nature knows what she is doing and if she thinks plants need both, then plants need both. They just need more of one than the other, depending on the time of year (plant's cycle)
AND
I have carefully documented 5 of my 8 grows, (3 were not done at my house) and I am 100% convinced that although I need more 2700k rays in Flowering and less 6500K bulbs in flowering, the buds closest to the 6500k bulbs always show the trichs first and give me the most trichs too. I am positive of that.
If you look at this month's nug of the month contest, there are some awesome buds there grown with CFLs. Leave Weaver is a CFL grower with great buds entered in the contest, and he says he gets his with 4000 lumens per sq ft of plant space. That is not over-kill for sure. The sun produces 10,000 lumens per sq ft, yet he got some awesome, dense, trich covered buds. I'd like to see what spectrums he uses in Flowering.
Good luck with the light changes. I hope you see some difference.
Good luck on the job market too. I'm interested in how you making it. Like Hank Jr said, a country boy can survive.
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Hi Woodsman On the subject of CFLs I think of them in a different way.
Roseman is the expert so listen to him my friend for the best results
Even experts my be mistaken! But as a pupil of 'the grow', I would be remiss if I did not try new (or old) techniques that could improve my final results.
Hey Mountain, I had not heard of 'ozone' cfl's prior to you mentioning them. Of course indoor growing is relatively new to me and I am only familiar with a fraction of what is out there! I take it that my 'cool white CFLs (daylight) that I just added, are not 'ozone CFLs. I wasn't sure if you had misunderstood me earlier?BTW I agree with Labrat, ozone isn't real good for your grow room. My two cheapo ozone CFL's are in my room, but not in the grow closet (some strip that releases it from the heat I think)...doesn't put out enough ozone to remove odor in my room so doubt much if any ozone makes it to the plants. It probably has zero contributing factor for my trichomes.
Maybe it was just TLC? Good timing on my nute changes? Enough light? Molasses
Nice to hear from you my old (young) friend.Spent this morning with my coffee and some Blue Dream reading this journal...nice grow Woodsman!! I love NL - especially as a cross.
I've never grown myself, and recently thought about it, but it's just too damn easy to get high quality cannabis in Northern Calif. that I can't justify the time investment.
Keep showing the picts - you're an inspiration to those of us that have yet to try.
Well I can speak for most of us NCal, we would have liked to join you this morning for a cup of coffee and some of that very fine 'herb' you mentioned!
That is a daunting task to read this entire journal! It has grown so fast and long that I wouldn't blame anybody for not reading it all!
I actually love to grow and for years I looked forward for the spring to come around so I could get my 'outdoor' started. Indoor has been slightly daunting for me, due mostly to my inexperience with it and my lack of $$$. I'm trying to get the best out of 'not much'. Had I a reliable source for 'herb' and was able to procure (and afford) my 'meds' , I may not have started the indoor. But I would feel incomplete, like I had misplaced something if I did not have my grow outside. I love watching my plants grow knowing its doing so with my help! Then when I sit down in the morning for a cup of coffee and a smoke, I have the added satisfaction of knowing that 'this is my st*ff I'm smoking, I made it myself!
I'm not certain that it would increase potency but it will definitely increase yield. Roseman has probably done a lot of research into it and may be quite correct about the potency increase for all I know. I should probably read that thread as I haven't seen a lot of the new stuff that has been posted in the last few weeks. I used to grow under 4' fluorescent lights and got great veg growth from them. I always used warm white and cool white bulbs together and the nodes grew close together and I got pie-plate sized fan leaves with them. They didn't flower as good as HID lighting as I found out when I got a 400W HPS for flowering.
He does seem to have a good grasp of many issues and techniques. I also know from reading 420magazine that many of you experienced growers do not always agree on everything! It is for that reason that I look to see if there are different opinions on a certain subject and go from there.
Well I have my small output 100w HPS in there along with four 40w soft whites and replaced my four 26w soft whites with four 26w cool white CFLs for some dual spectrum rays. I have made a trade off here. Wouldn't take much to change it back to eight soft white CFLs. Wish I could have squeezed the cool whites in without having to remove the soft whites! Just no room for additional bulbs! I am still pondering that possibility, since you can never have enough light.
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Thanks my friend for not only coming by but for reading the whole darn thread! Whew!
I enjoy your tutorials very much. Made a tiny bit of very good hash after reading your tutorial and learning that I could use panty hose to separate the trichomes! Now I'm trying to increase potency using both spectrum's (yes, like the sun). This is by no means a 'powerful' grow, but with my small footprint. I'm hoping that with the limited lighting I have, I can use them to get the 'maximum' potential out of my plants.
We'll see what happens! Thanks Bud
HawaiianDuck
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Hey Buddy! Just stopping in to say Aloha! and happy Sunday! Hope your St. Patty's Day was very GREEN!!
Nicademus
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I think if you got into growing you would find that it's not just saving money that motivates us, it's all the warm fuzzy feelings you get when you sit down and get blazed from the first blast of killer bud that you grew with your own two hands. Then you're hooked and just have to see what else you can come up with.
It is definitely time well wasted!
Absolutely, i couldn't agree more. And really it dosn't have to be that much a of a time investment. Beyond the initial outlay of time for setup, you could prolly put in less than an hour a day for a small garden.
Like the saying goes...smoking weed is habit forming, growing it is addictive.
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Howdy HD. Aloha my friend. My day is green with or without St. Patty's Day. Sometimes I've had to settle on a 'brown' day with seeds! It's all good though!Hey Buddy! Just stopping in to say Aloha! and happy Sunday! Hope your St. Patty's Day was very GREEN!!
Couldn't agree more my friend!
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Definately addictive.. I killed my first 2 grows but still am addicted and more determined to get it right. I acually wish I had ten times more things to do for them, I just wanna sit and play with them all day! lol
Hello 3lions. You can have ten times more time to spend with them. All you have to do is bring your lunch box to the grow room with you along with a pee bucket and don't get married to my wife!
Hypo Hippy
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hey woods ,wanted to let you know that i enjoy your journal
I have a bill paying job and a job I love and they are not the same job. Just means I stay up late! Sort of two shifting it with a little wife time in between! LOL! Going to get a bucket and pack my lunch!
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hey woods ,wanted to let you know that i enjoy your journal
Well thank you my friend, as I enjoy yours!
Have a great shift MC, we'll see ya later!
MountainHigh
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I was just rambling bro...ignore my ozone discussion. I bought them..only a bit more than regular bulbs to see if they provided any odor control...no noticable help....waste of a few extra bucks.
To be honest, I think the formula for potency is simple, healthy, hearty deep drinking babies will get sticky if their strain is one with high trichome count.
My BB Cheese got transplanted today. I removed her tie downs and took off the other bag. She absolutely loved it and the sun following it. Never fully covered her so she just spread out her leaves and looks amazing atm sitting with me waiting for the bloom lights to turn on. She is absolutely loving those Dutchmaster nutes. I am voting this is a hearty wonderful strain....me thinks a cyclical mother will be with me for a while from her....and get this. She is exactly what I wanted. Her odor is getting nice and strong already and smells like POT. Good old fashioned stoney skunk!
brother.
To be honest, I think the formula for potency is simple, healthy, hearty deep drinking babies will get sticky if their strain is one with high trichome count.
My BB Cheese got transplanted today. I removed her tie downs and took off the other bag. She absolutely loved it and the sun following it. Never fully covered her so she just spread out her leaves and looks amazing atm sitting with me waiting for the bloom lights to turn on. She is absolutely loving those Dutchmaster nutes. I am voting this is a hearty wonderful strain....me thinks a cyclical mother will be with me for a while from her....and get this. She is exactly what I wanted. Her odor is getting nice and strong already and smells like POT. Good old fashioned stoney skunk!
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I was just rambling bro...ignore my ozone discussion. I bought them..only a bit more than regular bulbs to see if they provided any odor control...no noticable help....waste of a few extra bucks.
To be honest, I think the formula for potency is simple, healthy, hearty deep drinking babies will get sticky if their strain is one with high trichome count.
My BB Cheese got transplanted today. I removed her tie downs and took off the other bag. She absolutely loved it and the sun following it. Never fully covered her so she just spread out her leaves and looks amazing atm sitting with me waiting for the bloom lights to turn on. She is absolutely loving those Dutchmaster nutes. I am voting this is a hearty wonderful strain....me thinks a cyclical mother will be with me for a while from her....and get this. She is exactly what I wanted. Her odor is getting nice and strong already and smells like POT. Good old fashioned stoney skunk!
Good skunk bud, ymmm. Makes me think of camping at Leavitt Peak in the High Sierras and smokin some good skunk weed and checking out the beautiful vistas. Or sitting on a granite outcrop overlooking a nice deep pool on the Stanislaus River and watching the trout rising in the water below. I'd be taking hits off my old corncob and just enjoying life!