Woodsman's Northern Light #5 Grow

Nicademus said:
Funny thing is...I have a MH in my flower room right now. Just because that's what i have available. It could work out for me better than i thought.
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So you may be sacrificing bud size for potency?
 
The following photos are relevant to my earlier post from today. For those of you that missed it, I've copied it for you.

Woodsman said:
I just read Roseman's thread about CFLs and thought is was very good. Here is the link: CFL Light Tutorial

I was particularly interested in his #6 post on the thread concerning duel spectrum lighting for 'more potent' buds. Excellent if true! Quoting Roseman here "As many of you may have heard or read before, Cool lighting (6500k) introduces a UVB spectrum that benefits the potency of the buds our plants are producing." With 'potency' being the key here!

Last night I swapped out my four 26w soft white CFLs with 4 Daylight CFLs (blue spectrum) and will run them through till harvest. I still have the four 40w CFLs (soft white) in use along with the HPS. I may (as he suggests) switch out the HPS with my MH for the last couple weeks of the grow. He explains this also. Please let me know your opinion on this. It is not a common practice and may not be common knowledge either.
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These first two photos illustrate my usage of the duel light spectrum. You can see the amber/red and the blue.

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Here's some photos of the grow from today (27 days flower).

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Secondary cola from Fatleaf

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I'm interested in what you all think about using duel spectrum lighting for flower. I know that it was once suggested on this thread by someone. It wasn't till I read Roseman's article that I was convinced to try it out. If it effects potency as he states, then it is definitely worth trying.
 
Woodsman said:
The following photos are relevant to my earlier post from today. For those of you that missed it, I've copied it for you.




These first two photos illustrate my usage of the duel light spectrum. You can see the amber/red and the blue.

DSCF0748.JPG


DSCF0750.JPG



Here's some photos of the grow from today (27 days flower).

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Secondary cola from Fatleaf

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I'm interested in what you all think about using duel spectrum lighting for flower. I know that it was once suggested on this thread by someone. It wasn't till I read Roseman's article that I was convinced to try it out. If it effects potency as he states, then it is definitely worth trying.
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I just got off the phone with a friend and we discussed this issue. He said the bulb needs to be in the 10k spectrum. This is the spectrum the reaches to the deep ocean floors. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
Nicademus said:
I just got off the phone with a friend and we discussed this issue. He said the bulb needs to be in the 10k spectrum. This is the spectrum the reaches to the deep ocean floors. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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Just copied this from post #6 of Roseman's Article:

Cool lighting (6500k) introduces a UVB spectrum that benefits the potency of the buds our plants are producing.
 
10k? Isn't that towards UV (critter light?)? Humm if it is UV-B then that is supposed to help trichome production since that is one of their jobs is to block that.

Hey Woods, dropped by...I was smoking an thought I would say HEY. :joint:

:goodjob:

:peace: brother.
 
MountainHigh said:
10k? Isn't that towards UV (critter light?)? Humm if it is UV-B then that is supposed to help trichome production since that is one of their jobs is to block that.

Hey Woods, dropped by...I was smoking an thought I would say HEY. :joint:

:goodjob:

:peace: brother.
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Yup thats pretty close to the way he explained it. He knows his shit. His garden was featured in High Times in 98'. I trust what he tells me.
 
MountainHigh said:
10k? Isn't that towards UV (critter light?)? Humm if it is UV-B then that is supposed to help trichome production since that is one of their jobs is to block that.

Hey Woods, dropped by...I was smoking an thought I would say HEY. :joint:

:goodjob:

:peace: brother.
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Hey, hey Mountain! So what do ya think? I myself like 'trichome production'. It would be 'good for my health'. If you get a chance, could you read post #6 on his thread and let me know what you think, No hurry and no sweat if ya can't!

:passitleft:
 
Nicademus said:
Yup thats pretty close to the way he explained it. He knows his shit. His garden was featured in High Times in 98'. I trust what he tells me.
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So it makes sense?
 
MountainHigh said:
Munki used a UV-B light and it looked to vastly improve trichome production.

I am pretty sure that isn't hearsay.

:peace:
:passitleft:
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Ya he explained it as the trichomes protect the plant from getting sunburn. Kinda like natures sunblock. More UV-b equals more production of "sunblock"

Brilliant. Really glad you brought up the subject as i would have never thought to ask the questions i did had you not.
 
If I had more room I would have just added the four daylights in addition to what I had in there, but it is so cramped in there, that there is no way I could have done that. I wonder if I am going to have any significant decrease in bud size. I'm willing to sacrifice a little 'size' for increased potency.
 
I am not sure if it attributed to my trichome production or mostly my dry climate. I run a couple Ozone bulbs in my room, they don't help crap with smell like they were suppose to but maybe they add a tiny amount of ozone to the air. And it is suppose to aid in trichome production.

My sugar leaves were so coated they swelled like a succulent from the inability to transpire (I guess that is why). You can see it clearly on Munki's grow.

Anything to improve potency on the cheap is good. :grinjoint:
 
MountainHigh said:
I am not sure if it attributed to my trichome production or mostly my dry climate. I run a couple Ozone bulbs in my room, they don't help crap with smell like they were suppose to but maybe they add a tiny amount of ozone to the air. And it is suppose to aid in trichome production.

My sugar leaves were so coated they swelled like a succulent from the inability to transpire (I guess that is why). You can see it clearly on Munki's grow.

Anything to improve potency on the cheap is good. :grinjoint:
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What Roseman was referring too were the 6500K cool white (daylight) CFLs that I use for veg. Isn't that different from what your talking about? I never heard of 'ozone bulbs'.
 
MountainHigh said:
I am not sure if it attributed to my trichome production or mostly my dry climate. I run a couple Ozone bulbs in my room, they don't help crap with smell like they were suppose to but maybe they add a tiny amount of ozone to the air. And it is suppose to aid in trichome production.

My sugar leaves were so coated they swelled like a succulent from the inability to transpire (I guess that is why). You can see it clearly on Munki's grow.

Anything to improve potency on the cheap is good. :grinjoint:
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I can tell you one thing for certain, ozone will reduce the potency of your pot and at higher levels can damage your plants. Think about it for a minute. You store your weed in airtight containers to protect it from oxygen degradation and O3 has a free radical O molecule that is just dying to oxidize something organic. It'll get rid of the smell but any left over after that job is done will eat away at the surface of your plants. If you want to use ozone to control odors you put it in your exhaust stream tied to the exhaust fan power.

I'm planning some changes to my grow room to control odors. My ozone machine at the beginning of 30' of 6" plastic flex hose so the ozone has time to neutralize odors before going outside. I can just run the hose around the perimeter of the ceiling to keep it out of the way. I just need to punch a 6" hole for my outlet.

C'ya

:peace:
 
High Woods!

I was reading up on your lighting plans and if I were you I'd stick with the HPS through flowering. With those cool CFLs you'll be adding in lots of extra blue light and the red light and higher lumens of the HPS would be better IMO. The grow I did before my Kush journal my 1000W Sunmaster bulb blew out and I did the last 5 weeks of flower with a standard $35 MH bulb. I was not happy with the results. The high was great but the buds were airy and calyxs small. I had a 400W HPS but never thought to toss it in with the MH. That might have made a big difference to my yield. I could have replaced the 1000W MH with a 400W MH as I have that too.

I'm learning new things here all the time as well. :bong:

:peace:
 
LabRat420 said:
High Woods!

I was reading up on your lighting plans and if I were you I'd stick with the HPS through flowering. With those cool CFLs you'll be adding in lots of extra blue light and the red light and higher lumens of the HPS would be better IMO. The grow I did before my Kush journal my 1000W Sunmaster bulb blew out and I did the last 5 weeks of flower with a standard $35 MH bulb. I was not happy with the results. The high was great but the buds were airy and calyxs small. I had a 400W HPS but never thought to toss it in with the MH. That might have made a big difference to my yield. I could have replaced the 1000W MH with a 400W MH as I have that too.

I'm learning new things here all the time as well. :bong:

:peace:
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Hello LR, thanks for stepping into the discussion. Is the theory correct that using both light spectrum's to increase potency as Roseman states?
 
Woodsman said:
Hello LR, thanks for stepping into the discussion. Is the theory correct that using both light spectrum's to increase potency as Roseman states?
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Hell if it works, I'm going to buy an old tanning bed and use one half as a light in the last 2 weeks. Thats got to throw out tons of UV right? Could prolly pick up an old used one for pretty cheap.
 
Nicademus said:
Hell if it works, I'm going to buy an old tanning bed and use one half as a light in the last 2 weeks. Thats got to throw out tons of UV right? Could prolly pick up an old used one for pretty cheap.
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I would think that there must be a limit or something. You don't want to fry the plants.
 
Awesome thread man. I'm a fan of the NL#5. I'm about halfway through the thread, and I like what I see. I'll finish checking it out tomorrow and comment a little more. Keep up the good work.
 
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