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Winter Weedy Wonderland - Auto Grow - Royal Queen Seeds
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Thirvnrob
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Actually, I was still oblivious or blissfully ignorant to brix when I entered your world. I was trying to get a deficiency straightened out or diagnosed & I was throwing calmag at it but since I was using a SIP you suggested top watering it in. Long story short, my ppm was way too high. I only top water now to initiate the wick.
Thirvnrob
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Sorry it took me so long to reply, but I went back a few pages initially & then a few more & then I went all the way back to the beginning and I’m following now. Nice journaling!
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We have no time schedule here. Well, other than getting a smoke or a vape on time....
No worries.Thanks and welcome aboard!
Perfect. That's the one I have.
That's the stuff lol my hyper links always get wonky (user error)
I set my phone to portrait mode where it is set to only use one camera. I'm using a Google Pixel 7+ but I'd assume iPhone has a similar setting.
Also background light is is really important because sometimes the leaf juice comes out light green or even clear and bright lights will blow out the prism. This can make it look super duper fuzzy or even unreadable.
Gee64
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Yes, any name brand works, Dynomyco, Great White, whatever you can get your hands on.
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Nice Wayne. Your almost there, right on the lineNo choice but I can usually trick it. I just got a picture of it though. I took the eyepiece of the lens on the refrato and was able to get this
I coiled my hand am around the refractometer like I was gonna stab something with it and that allowed the camera to stay on the macro lens and focus some. It was a struggle and the camera kept trying to balance the light. I think that’s why you can almost see some purple in that line. It’s the camera trying to decide the settings that look good to it. Maybe! But either way you gave me the clue I needed thanks.
. Your calcium looks good too
.You should check your moisture levels. If they are too wet then a drydown is likely all you need to cross into high brix.
Hows your weather? Is there a low pressure system brewing right now? that will drop you a few brix until it passes.
Nice Wayne. You’re almost there, right on the line
Hows your weather? Is there a low pressure system brewing
It’s freezing down like 5f since last night. This particular plant is in coc which has to be watered and fed daily. You can let it dry but I’ve heard and seen nothing but bad things letting that happen in coco. It’s a hard place to improve brix for certain media. Other thinks can be done though. Especially microbes. I think my population is WEAK
Yes there’s a portrait mode and I’ll give that a whirl next time I attempt to get a clear picture, thanks!
Gee64
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I just googled foxfarms Ocean Forest and I couldn't substantiate whether or not it contains myco, but rumor has it that it contains very little to no myco, so if that is the case, you would really benefit from having some. That alone could easily be why your brix are low.
By natures design, plant roots have a special pore that myco links into. Then myco spreads out thru the soil in strands of fuzz called hyphae.
The hyphae finds microbes and nutrients, and works in sync with the plants. A plant will tell myco it's needs, for example, some P. Then the plant gives myco some sugary root exudate and myco will use part of the sugar to consume, and moves the rest thru the hyphae and releases it onto the P in the soil.
The microbes will rush in to eat the sugar and in the process eat the P as well. Then poop the P out and myco slurps it up and sends it back to the plant.
A root could take days to grow to that P but myco can move it to the plant in minutes or hours.
Eventually myco sets up colonies of specific microbes in the soil that do specific things. P miners by the P, cation miners all over, nitrogen fixers near high oxygen sources, that sort of thing. It's the middle man of the operation and it specializes in microbe management. It's extremely good at what it does when it's healthy.
This allows the plant to eat exactly what it needs exactly when it wants. Myco can also directly harvest nutes from the soil, and is excellent at harvesting P.
Myco lives in the dark so it can't photosynthesize, so it needs a cut of the sugars to survive. It's the lynch pin in the whole operation.
Ideally you want to mix some dry myco into your sprouting pot, and then dust the rootball fairly generously at every uppotting.
Once established, all it needs to survive from you is some hydrolysed fish ferts to stay really robust and healthy.
Now that the trade routes are set up the plant will start generating as much sugar as it can, and the microbes, myco, and the plant all get enough to become healthier, producing even more sugars.
The plant has the ability to create more sugars, which are stored energy, from the energy required to create the sugars. It turns a profit that immediately gets used to boost everyones health so they can produce even more food to create even more sugars. The cartel is up and running.
Once enough sugar has been created long enough to get brix above 12, everyone is at sufficient health and profits start to stack up. The excess sugars get stored in the soil. That is called carbon sequestering. CO2 gets pulled from atmosphere, turned into sugars, and stored in the soil. You should get a carbon credit at this point
.Adding liquid P or synthetic ferts circumvents this process, myco isn't needed, so sugar levels don't need to be high, everyone gets fat and lazy, natures way is no longer being used, so the plants genetics activate a self destruct mechanism to commit suicide so it's siblings can have the soil nutrients.
The kill switch is the plants ability to call in pests. Pests pick up the suicide signal with their antennae and come running for the free lunch. That's how one plant can be covered in aphids and the one beside it has no aphids.
Myco also has the ability to take nutes from one plant and give it to another. Trees do this very well. The biggest tree in the tree lot is referred to as the nurse tree, and will send nutes out it's roots, thru myco, and into saplings that aren't yet above the canopy, so can't effectively photosynthesize. She breast feeds them thru myco.The Soil Food Network.
So myco is vital to brix, and yours is likely quite low. This is good news, except for your wallet, as adding it and then waiting about 6-10 days for it to establish will make a huge difference.
Edit: So the sequestered carbon, AKA sugar, that's stored in the soil... at the end of the grow you can toss that out with the soil, or you can rebuild soil that is already high brix and not have to start from scratch. Your choice.
Either works, but 1st run soil usually pops and farts for 2 or 3 weeks as calcium homogenizes and sugars are created, and myco establishes.
When I mix soil I always mix at least 25% used high brix soil into the new batch.
Seeds contain energy and can power themselves for about 2 weeks, but bare root clones don't, so if you use clones then used soil really makes a huge difference. From seed too, but especially with clones.
Is their any myco in this stuff?
It’s what I used last summer as foliar. I added some to the water today regardless. Npk 2-3-1 hydrolised not emulsified. Can’t find anything on myco and it. I’ll have to get more. I used up all this at the beginning when everything was mixed and planted.
Lady can, your plants are going to surprise you this grow. You were this || close now your gonna shoot the brix up and the plants will show they love it.
* don’t get this fish is you have a weak nose. This stuff is one of the worse smelling things you can add to your email or plant. As bad or worse and different than chicken manure or others.
It’s what I used last summer as foliar. I added some to the water today regardless. Npk 2-3-1 hydrolised not emulsified. Can’t find anything on myco and it. I’ll have to get more. I used up all this at the beginning when everything was mixed and planted.
Lady can, your plants are going to surprise you this grow. You were this || close now your gonna shoot the brix up and the plants will show they love it.
* don’t get this fish is you have a weak nose. This stuff is one of the worse smelling things you can add to your email or plant. As bad or worse and different than chicken manure or others.
Gee64
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The fish won't but the Raw states that in contains fungii. It would be myco for sure, but straight myco products like Dynomyco will work far better.Is their any myco in this stuff?
It’s what I used last summer as foliar. I added some to the water today regardless. Npk 2-3-1 hydrolised not emulsified. Can’t find anything on myco and it. I’ll have to get more. I used up all this at the beginning when everything was mixed and planted.
Lady can, your plants are going to surprise you this grow. You were this || close now your gonna shoot the brix up and the plants will show they love it.
* don’t get this fish is you have a weak nose. This stuff is one of the worse smelling things you can add to your email or plant. As bad or worse and different than chicken manure or others.
That’s an empty package I’ve used up. I was hopeful for the fish dangit.
So my problem becomes shipping. If I order anything it’ll take two weeks+ to be delivered. So I may drive 1.5 hours to the closest real town. They have a Walmart and home depot. I should be able to find my mycos there perhaps. Mayyyyyyyyyyybe a garden center of some sort there but they are mostly not dedicated to plants up here and are just part of a hardware store or something. In the woods of Maine. Tomorrow I will do a search in town just to be sure nothing is available before heading out to hunt.
*What about a cupful of my neighbors compost. Bound to find some there.
Gee64
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Don't buy cheap garden variety vegetable myco, buy a good brand. Dynomyco is primo and a sponsor, but if you can't find it 1st, Great White is also a cannabis specialty myco, as well as a brand called Mykos.
Heard! Thanks man
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My sister from another Mr. is bringing me back some Dynomyco that I had given her husband when he was growing indoors. He never used it. I think it was a 7 1/2 oz. bag of it. Won't get it till later in the week though. She's not a retarded.....errr retired person like me yet. Couple more months and we'll be partying down with her not worrying about random drug testing at work!
Gee64
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Excellent!! Ok over the next week or so as the myco and water probe show up we can continue. How long do you think this grow has until harvest?
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Do yourself a big favor and call those retailers first to see if they have it in stock and exactly what you need. And the price! It's kinda pricey.
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Big question....long story on two of those plants not even flowering yet at 9 weeks in. More on that tomorrow, I need to look at my dates. The two in flower have a ways to go yet.