Vick074-OG Kush Last Run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5Tent-with Porta Scrogs!? Porta Wha?

[Shrute]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

The ladies are looking lovely!! I've never personally grown OG, but I've smoked some super potent cuts of it. Looks like you're gonna end up with some dank nuggets!!

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

The ladies are looking lovely!! I've never personally grown OG, but I've smoked some super potent cuts of it. Looks like you're gonna end up with some dank nuggets!!

Thanks Shrute,
And welcome to
Looking forward to the dankness alright!
That tent is really starting to stiiiiiiiiink already!

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

edit:
oopsie, double post..

 

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Vic, yeah, I have two in coco now. I think it stays wet way too long, and that is in fabric pots that I additionally cut holes in the bottom. I also added a lot of airated rocks, basically larger hydroton. I think coco needs to have like half crutons or hydroton or something.

Ph is not easy to keep stable in coco either if you don't add anything like lime.

Lime is cool because it makes it not go above 7.0. You water it with say 5.8, and it slowly rises to 7.0 and stays there. You can't go wrong with ph that way. Same with rockwool. Just water with 5.5 and it will slowly rise to 7.0 because lime is nutral, 7.0

Not sure if you ever watched any of Soma's videos, but that is one of the things he goes for. Water with a lower PH, have lime in medium, so that way it slowly rises up to 7.0. As it rises, different amounts of nutrients are absorbed optimally.

I add lime to my soil and coco for this reason. Trying coco out for the first time. So far, not a fan. I will try it again with half hydroton or crutons.

I haven't tried pure rockwool yet in a pot, only in plants up to 1 foot, and it very easy to work with. I will see how easy it is to do a whole grow that way. Just in case, I will have a few plants in another medium.

 

[Cultivator]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

U must have poor quality coco or arent using coco friendly nutrient. IMO coco is probably the most stable ph. Its ph neutral, so what u put in is what u make it. u definately dont need to be adding lime, ive never heard of this for coco. Where did u get ur coco? what brand? was it in a ready to use state? if not did u wash it?

If u want to mix anyting with coco, 50/50 perlite/coco works well, as they are both ph neutral. but its not necessary. if the coco is staying wet it prob means u are adding too much liquid when feeding. so let them dry out til pots are really light between waterings. At the moment i have a few dozen plants growing in 6.5 litre pots. i will give the plant 300ml daily, maximum. less when plants are still rooting. U dont need to soak the subsrate, it works better giving small amounts often, the substrate will stay more aerated.

What nutes and additives are u using? i'd persevere, rockwool is trickier to grow in because of the lime. U want to ph ur nutes between 5.5 and 5.8. feed 5 days then water 1, when u water allow a tiny bit of water run off but not when u feed. add house and gardens drip clean to every feed and u wont get a salt build up, add drip clean to the water feed too.

 

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

If coco is neutral, then it will ph to 7.0. Lime is neutral, which is why it ph's to 7.0. If you put a decent amount of lime in pretty much any soil, that soil will ph to 7.0 even if you put 5.5 ph nutes/water in it. It will slowly rise to 7.0, but this is a good thing because as it slowly rises, the roots take advantage of all the nutrients at their best ph absorbtion.


The brand is Botanicare Cocogro from inland, so not salty like the cheaper stuff near the coast. I use GH 3-part flora series, but this will not effect how fast coco dries out. My RH is 40-50 most of the time.

So if coco is ph 7, neutral, then adding lime will not effect ph at all; it will only add extra cal-mag. I haven't tested coco's ph without lime in it yet. I have half a bag extra, so I should do that.

A ph neutral is 7, so it wouldn't become whatever you make it. Rockwool, you can easily make any ph you want. You just have to get the cubes with no lime, or use florakleen to get most lime out if it has it, then soak it in 5.5 ph water for 24 hours, then let it start to dry, test ph, soak again, test, soak again. After that it should be stable 5.5, but not sure why you would want the ph to remain one number.

I am of Soma's philosophy that you want to use lower ph water in a medium with lime or something in it to slowly raise the ph to nuetral 7, this way the plant gets the best absorbtion of all nutrient at different ph levels. I think Soma is one of the most knowledgable growers.

I treat soil the same way you said you treat rockwool. I water with florakleen and water between feeds, once or twice before I feed again, and allow good run off. However, this can still lead to salt build up if you are trying to push to plants to see how much nutes they can take. I just did this with going from 900ppm to 1200ppm in fox farm ocean farm mixed with fox farm warrior. Same thing with my two coco plants.

After I saw some light burning, I leached them. Since then I have watered with b1 plant starter, alaska fish organics (sticky crap), cal mag+, and something else that doesn't really raise ppms.

Oh, B1 plant starter by Lilly Miller is a great way to bring Ph down and add b1 and stuff.

 

[WizHigh]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Just checking in. Grow is going great bummer about the PM. Small thing to a giant though. Hopefully I can hang in here a bit. Ive been falling off from staying focused on everyones journal. Sick season right now. Longest 2 weeks of my life.

 

[Muttt]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

A buddy of mine uses a PM UV light that kills the PM dead dead dead. He has a you tube channel. His channel is farmerjohn fourtwenty. I can't remember which episode he talks about the light. But, I messaged him and he'll send me the info where he got it and how much etc. If I forget to post it here ...... PM me and remind me.

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

If coco is neutral, then it will ph to 7.0. Lime is neutral, which is why it ph's to 7.0. If you put a decent amount of lime in pretty much any soil, that soil will ph to 7.0 even if you put 5.5 ph nutes/water in it. It will slowly rise to 7.0, but this is a good thing because as it slowly rises, the roots take advantage of all the nutrients at their best ph absorbtion.


The brand is Botanicare Cocogro from inland, so not salty like the cheaper stuff near the coast. I use GH 3-part flora series, but this will not effect how fast coco dries out. My RH is 40-50 most of the time.

So if coco is ph 7, neutral, then adding lime will not effect ph at all; it will only add extra cal-mag. I haven't tested coco's ph without lime in it yet. I have half a bag extra, so I should do that.

A ph neutral is 7, so it wouldn't become whatever you make it. Rockwool, you can easily make any ph you want. You just have to get the cubes with no lime, or use florakleen to get most lime out if it has it, then soak it in 5.5 ph water for 24 hours, then let it start to dry, test ph, soak again, test, soak again. After that it should be stable 5.5, but not sure why you would want the ph to remain one number.

I am of Soma's philosophy that you want to use lower ph water in a medium with lime or something in it to slowly raise the ph to nuetral 7, this way the plant gets the best absorbtion of all nutrient at different ph levels. I think Soma is one of the most knowledgable growers.

I treat soil the same way you said you treat rockwool. I water with florakleen and water between feeds, once or twice before I feed again, and allow good run off. However, this can still lead to salt build up if you are trying to push to plants to see how much nutes they can take. I just did this with going from 900ppm to 1200ppm in fox farm ocean farm mixed with fox farm warrior. Same thing with my two coco plants.

After I saw some light burning, I leached them. Since then I have watered with b1 plant starter, alaska fish organics (sticky crap), cal mag+, and something else that doesn't really raise ppms.

Oh, B1 plant starter by Lilly Miller is a great way to bring Ph down and add b1 and stuff.

To each their own.
I mix my Coco 50/50 with Pro mix and have no problem with PH.
When I mix my feeds, I PH adjust, and my runoff never climbs higher than 7.3. I also add Cal mag with every feed as the medium is void of it. What I do works great for me and I'm quite happy with how things are going with my setup.
I say, if you want to try Rockwool, or add lime to Coco, go for it!
And let us know how it works!

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Just checking in. Grow is going great bummer about the PM. Small thing to a giant though. Hopefully I can hang in here a bit. Ive been falling off from staying focused on everyones journal. Sick season right now. Longest 2 weeks of my life.

Thanks for dropping in Whiz,
The PM aint no big deal, I've been dealing with it for a while now.
Everyone I know is sick right now, but I've managed to avoid it so far.

here's to feeling better!

 

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

If it is not too far off to harvest why not burn sulfur? I have a DIY burner for under $5 that works great.

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

A buddy of mine uses a PM UV light that kills the PM dead dead dead. He has a you tube channel. His channel is farmerjohn fourtwenty. I can't remember which episode he talks about the light. But, I messaged him and he'll send me the info where he got it and how much etc. If I forget to post it here ...... PM me and remind me.

Hey Mutt!
Thanks for that.
Would really be interested to hear more about that light.

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Quick Update:
A few Photos at lights on last night.
Trichomes are blowing up all over the place.

All 10 of my Ambrosia beans have popped out of the Rapid Rooters, and kicked their helmets off.
The humidity dome is off now, and I just transplanted them into pots with 1/3 Coco 1/3 Promix and 1/3 Perlite.
Have been watering with straight RO water.

Nice Healthy tap roots!!

The 5 OG Kush beans I got from my last grow just popped and went into Rapid Rooters and under the dome.

 

[spring2012]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Damn nice! And Green!!

 

[Green Knight]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Nice! And I love your photos - they're so crisp and in focus, very professional looking - that close up of the trichs is sick mate!

 

[Bassman59]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

great plants, awesome pics.

 

[Muttt]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Nice pics ....... Looking great.


Here's the link to the light I was talking about. He said he uses this and the next day there's no PM at all. There are marks on the leaves where the PM used to be. But, the plant is clean afterwards.


CleanLight Hobby Unit - Clean Light Hobby Unit

 

[Cultivator]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

If coco is neutral, then it will ph to 7.0. Lime is neutral, which is why it ph's to 7.0. If you put a decent amount of lime in pretty much any soil, that soil will ph to 7.0 even if you put 5.5 ph nutes/water in it. It will slowly rise to 7.0, but this is a good thing because as it slowly rises, the roots take advantage of all the nutrients at their best ph absorbtion.


The brand is Botanicare Cocogro from inland, so not salty like the cheaper stuff near the coast. I use GH 3-part flora series, but this will not effect how fast coco dries out. My RH is 40-50 most of the time.

So if coco is ph 7, neutral, then adding lime will not effect ph at all; it will only add extra cal-mag. I haven't tested coco's ph without lime in it yet. I have half a bag extra, so I should do that.

A ph neutral is 7, so it wouldn't become whatever you make it. Rockwool, you can easily make any ph you want. You just have to get the cubes with no lime, or use florakleen to get most lime out if it has it, then soak it in 5.5 ph water for 24 hours, then let it start to dry, test ph, soak again, test, soak again. After that it should be stable 5.5, but not sure why you would want the ph to remain one number.

I am of Soma's philosophy that you want to use lower ph water in a medium with lime or something in it to slowly raise the ph to nuetral 7, this way the plant gets the best absorbtion of all nutrient at different ph levels. I think Soma is one of the most knowledgable growers.

I treat soil the same way you said you treat rockwool. I water with florakleen and water between feeds, once or twice before I feed again, and allow good run off. However, this can still lead to salt build up if you are trying to push to plants to see how much nutes they can take. I just did this with going from 900ppm to 1200ppm in fox farm ocean farm mixed with fox farm warrior. Same thing with my two coco plants.

After I saw some light burning, I leached them. Since then I have watered with b1 plant starter, alaska fish organics (sticky crap), cal mag+, and something else that doesn't really raise ppms.

Oh, B1 plant starter by Lilly Miller is a great way to bring Ph down and add b1 and stuff.

ok i may have worded my reply wrong. coco wull become the ph u want it, thats what i meant. i have more than ten years growing experience with coco, its my bread and butter.

I have to disagree with u wanting it to rise to 7. 7 is too high. If u use coco specific nutrient with high level of chelates in, u will never need to get the ph above 6.2 or below 5.5. As long as u let ur base nutrient sit for a couple hours before ph'ing there wont be a massive swing. which u dont want. maybe if u are using nutrients are arent chelated but imo thats old technology if not.

Im not saying my way is the only way but i am saying that with vast experience, having grown thousands of plants in coco, that throughout the years i have found this method to be most effective with coco.




I stated ph neutral as meaning it will adjust to the ph u give it, not meaning it is ph 7. worded poorly.

 

[Cultivator]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

loving the hairy roots!

 

[bozzo420]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

great grow. I loved my kush I grew this summer and will get more this year..... so I'll be watching ..
I had a mold problem also. the light sounds good if it works. but I found vinegar and water spray was best.. Free and the plants loved the spray and it did not affect buds at all. But once you get it its a constant fight to harvest . my ladybugs loved it also. had bumper crop of ladybugs this year so the bugs were controled. Id get a sulfer burner and raise it up the tree and let er cook. lol. I made one for 40 dollars out of a resessed light fixure. Because i hope to kill that shit befor my next grow....great grow