Vick074-OG Kush Last Run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5Tent-with Porta Scrogs!? Porta Wha?

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Two burning 3 days apart is what cured my PM.


I am about to upload a video for how to make a sulphur burner for under $5. It works. It worked wonders for me.

 

[Hozona]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Drive by dropping off reps Beautiful Trichs!!!!

 

[TheDoctor]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Two burning 3 days apart is what cured my PM.


I am about to upload a video for how to make a sulphur burner for under $5. It works. It worked wonders for me.

Won't that cover your crop with sulfur vapor? Is that safe?

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Won't that cover your crop with sulfur vapor? Is that safe?

 

[Hiker]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

I would take precautions if I were you..
Just to have yourself covered.
WA is pretty similar weather conditions as B.C.
You could bring fresh clones into your room and once they get PM, they have it.
Cloning them will just continue the PM along with the babies.
It's not in the room, it's in the plant.
Like plant herpes.
Lies dormant and then just when you wanna get freaky deaky, it shows up to wreck the party. Or so I've heard..
I'm not speaking from human experience there though, just a metaphor.. lol

I don't want plant herpies!

What sorts of precautions do you take?

I've never brought, nor do I plan to bring, a clone in from outside. My garden is all seeds right now, and will be my own clones from those mothers. I guess it could come in on me or the dogs. Everything is buried in snow right now, so I suspect the risk is lower right now?

A really good prevetative is lemon water. Mix real 100% lemon juice 1 part with 2 parts water. Spray your plants once a week. The Ascorbic acid keeps the PM at bay and will help prevent it. It also helps to keep a small space heater or dehumidifier in the grow area. If you can keep your humidity under 40% RH, it will also helps alot with keeping PM out. It's hard for it to grow when there's not enough humidity. I keep a small space heater in my grow box. It keeps my temps at 75 degrees and keeps my RH at 40-45%. I've yet to have issues with PM (knock on wood). If I do get a bad case of PM ...... I'll probably get that UV light to deal with the problem. In WA, you either have had PM, are going to get PM ..... or you currently have PM ..... LOL. Just a fact of life up here.

I also use Bronner's Magic Soap (peppermint) to prevent/kill mites (it's the same ingredients as liquid ladybug). I mix it 1 tbsp to 32 oz water. I spray it once a week to prevent aphids, mites, knats and thrips. It also has ascorbic acid in it (Vit C) which helps keep PM at bay.

My RH has not gone above 32% except the one time I had the controller overflow a few gallons onto the floor (50% for a day or so). Am I safe as long as I keep RH under 40%? I had to add a humidifier to get it above 16%!

Two burning 3 days apart is what cured my PM.


I am about to upload a video for how to make a sulphur burner for under $5. It works. It worked wonders for me.

I like $5 more than $90. That's the kind of savings I can make the time for.

 

[ajagunle]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

never heard anything about these before.
Sounds kinda weird to me though.
Because all it is is UV light right?
For 199 euros seems like a bit of a rip, when you could just buy a UV light from a Pet store to do the same thing.
Maybe it's more heavy duty, hence the "Must wear gloves and safety Glasses always!"
I'd like to talk to your friend that uses it to find out more info.

2C

A journal on here used one of these in the Autumn and whilst it kept it bay, it didn’t eradicate it

 

[bozzo420]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

do not want to use sulfer burner on flowering plants.....best when roon down. do not want to smoke sulfer. but vinegar and water is fine on buds. will not hurt them or smoke

Awesome John,
Thanks heaps for that.
reps are on their way.
Watched the video on the tube and have decided I'm totally going to make one.
Was always on the fence about using sulphur burners in the house. Especially having a wife with a sensitive nose. But as long as I use it when she's not around I think it would work pretty good.
And for 50 bucks, why not.
Planning my 21 day defoiliation for this Sunday, so all porta scrogs are going to be getting pulled out of the tent for a haircut and beauty treatment. That would be a perfect time to give them all a little spritz of vinegar water after the pluck. Then use the sulphur burner as preventative for the next few weeks after.

Just one more question, when do you use it?
Burn for 3-4 hours during lights off/fans off??
And how frequently? Once a week?

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

I don't want plant herpies!

What sorts of precautions do you take?

I've never brought, nor do I plan to bring, a clone in from outside. My garden is all seeds right now, and will be my own clones from those mothers. I guess it could come in on me or the dogs. Everything is buried in snow right now, so I suspect the risk is lower right now?

-I try to keep my RH below 45%. in tent manual dehumidifiers, and electric dehumidifier in tent room.
-don't leave standing water in tent.
-LOTS of air circulation
-exhaust fan on 24/7
-run a passive intake
-try to keep tent between 75-82 F when lights on, 70-75 at lights off.
-I use CO2 which helps plants transpire faster, so medium doesn't stay soaked.
-try to keep plants spaced out as much as possible to deter blocked airflow.
-spray the heavy shit (still don't know what it's called, hydro store won't tell me whats in it) when it gets really bad, avoiding buds.

Doing all these things keeps at bay, but it's one thing that I want to have under complete control entering 4th week of flowering, so I can avoid spraying anything near buds.
Your risk is way lower than some of ours being that cold.
And you should be totally safe with those RH numbers, especially when you're doing everything from seed.

I like $5 more than $90. That's the kind of savings I can make the time for.

me too, definitely interested in seeing this video LEDRF is talking about.

 

[WizHigh]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Thanks for the reps! That OG got you on cloud 9. Coming to spread the reps and get some of that 20% THC smoke

 

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

You probably don't want to do it in flower. Unless they haven't been flowering long. It can leave them with a sulfur taste. But yes, it is safe. I did it in veg, so it will not effect the flavor. Most commercial growers burn sulphur during veg.

Basically, it is like giving a plant Chemo. It is enough to kill the PM but not the plant. The plant only suffers slightly. The edges of the leaves will turn a bit brown if you over do it.

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Yep,
I don't know what I was thinking there. duh..
Don't want my buds to taste like no god damn egg salad sandwiches!
I actually remember now reading in someones journal not too long ago people arguing about weather or not smoke or vapor, will leave residue on the buds. And the general consensus was to NOT DO IT..
I'll have one ready for next veg round, and use vinegar if needed through rest of flower.
Thanks for straightening me out John and LEDRF..

 

[Xlr8]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

ok i may have worded my reply wrong. coco wull become the ph u want it, thats what i meant. i have more than ten years growing experience with coco, its my bread and butter.

I have to disagree with u wanting it to rise to 7. 7 is too high. If u use coco specific nutrient with high level of chelates in, u will never need to get the ph above 6.2 or below 5.5. As long as u let ur base nutrient sit for a couple hours before ph'ing there wont be a massive swing. which u dont want. maybe if u are using nutrients are arent chelated but imo thats old technology if not.

Im not saying my way is the only way but i am saying that with vast experience, having grown thousands of plants in coco, that throughout the years i have found this method to be most effective with coco.




I stated ph neutral as meaning it will adjust to the ph u give it, not meaning it is ph 7. worded poorly.

I have to agree with this. Great post, Cultivator.

I would add that I don't think coco specific nutrients are necessary, especially if you can supplement a little cal/mag. I've been using the regular 3-part Blue Planet Nutrients line-up and they thrive with it. Another I like a lot for moms with coco coir, is MotherPlant nutrients, by Hydrodynamics. To Cultivator's point, the coco will become the PH you want it, and the range should be 5.5-6.2 or so. It has a bit of a memory, so I try to "pre-charge" it with a mild nutrient solution, some seaweed extract, and a root stimulator first, that's been PH'd to roughly 5.6-5.8. As long as I keep feeding in the 5.5-6.2 range, it holds that PH pretty well with minor shifts. The only thing non-neutral about coco coir is a little more potassium, which is offset by either the coco specific nutrients, or 5 ml per gallon of cal/mag and any decent nutrients (in my experience).

I've not been growing plants in it as long as Cultivator, but I've had more than a dozen mom plants in it, and flowered a nice Jack the Ripper plant last round using straight coco coir (no perlite, or anything), air pot, and BPN 3-part that I scooped right out of my hydro res. Worked great! I haven't found a plant yet that doesn't love coir, and the only downside is that it's a little more inviting to bugs than growing with hydroton/water in an active hydro system.

 

[Xlr8]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Quick Update:
A few Photos at lights on last night.
Trichomes are blowing up all over the place.

All 10 of my Ambrosia beans have popped out of the Rapid Rooters, and kicked their helmets off.
The humidity dome is off now, and I just transplanted them into pots with 1/3 Coco 1/3 Promix and 1/3 Perlite.
Have been watering with straight RO water.

Nice Healthy tap roots!!

The 5 OG Kush beans I got from my last grow just popped and went into Rapid Rooters and under the dome.

Beautiful pics!

 

[Vick074]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Thank you my friend!

 

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

About coco, all I can say is that my WW growing in it, has shown no signs of nute lockout or deficiency, and I treated it with lime. I water with 5.7 and it slowly rises to 7 do to the lime. I did get salt build up in my soil, but that is because I pushed them too far while in veg.

I would like to do a test in the future, same strain from same mother, same light, same nutes, same watering, etc, but one coco treated with lime, the other not. Like two plants in each. The one not treated in coco, try to keep the soil ph 5.7-6.2

Just curious, when you coco growers place your soil Ph meter in the coco, what does it read?

 

[Xlr8]

About coco, all I can say is that my WW growing in it, has shown no signs of nute lockout or deficiency, and I treated it with lime. I water with 5.7 and it slowly rises to 7 do to the lime. I did get salt build up in my soil, but that is because I pushed them too far while in veg.

I would like to do a test in the future, same strain from same mother, same light, same nutes, same watering, etc, but one coco treated with lime, the other not. Like two plants in each. The one not treated in coco, try to keep the soil ph 5.7-6.2

Just curious, when you coco growers place your soil Ph meter in the coco, what does it read?

I've never used lime personally, so I can't speak to it really. I don't grow in soil (cannabis anyway). PH for coco coir should be in the hydro range as it's really a form of hydro. I don't have a soil PH meter, but I measure what I put in, and occasionally run-off, with my hydro ph pen. Run off for me is usually slightly higher than what i put in. So if it's 5.5 going in, it might be 5.8 or 5.9 coming out.

Well chelated nutrients can make up for PH imperfections a bit, especially in lower ppm ranges - which can perhaps explain a wide tolerance or success outside the traditional range.

Do you have soil with your coir, or are you just accidentally sometimes referring to coco coir as soil? Just want to make sure I understand what you have going on correctly.

Coco does seem to like salt build ups in my experience, so I water with healthy run-off, and do periodic maintenance flushes to keep it from getting toxic.

 

[Cultivator]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

agreed with u x. Ive never had issues with salt build up though, but that could be down to using drip clean in every feed and water.

 

[Buckshot]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Trichomes are blowing up all over the place.

WIW!

Some beauty macro work plus reps for that!

 

[Perfect Sun LED]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

Xl, by coco I mean pure coco from inland, Cocogro. I only added about 10 percent grow rocks. Pretty much a larger version of hydroton.

I water with 5.7 though, so it goes through the ranges of 5.7 up to 7 as the lime corrects the ph.

You should try putting a soil ph meter in your coco just to see what it reads.

 

[WizHigh]

Re: Vick074-OG Kush last run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5tent-with Porta Scrogs!? porta

I've never used lime personally, so I can't speak to it really. I don't grow in soil (cannabis anyway). PH for coco coir should be in the hydro range as it's really a form of hydro. I don't have a soil PH meter, but I measure what I put in, and occasionally run-off, with my hydro ph pen. Run off for me is usually slightly higher than what i put in. So if it's 5.5 going in, it might be 5.8 or 5.9 coming out.

Well chelated nutrients can make up for PH imperfections a bit, especially in lower ppm ranges - which can perhaps explain a wide tolerance or success outside the traditional range.

Do you have soil with your coir, or are you just accidentally sometimes referring to coco coir as soil? Just want to make sure I understand what you have going on correctly.

Coco does seem to like salt build ups in my experience, so I water with healthy run-off, and do periodic maintenance flushes to keep it from getting toxic.

More like calcium will leach to coco. And its horrible when that happens.