Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant SOG

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Hey bro, I am just like you, heard this hi brix from Icemud, and didnt understand, but now I do, and man, its basically organics to me, just info that is not understood as well, but now I do, so I am working on puttin up or shuttin up, all I really have to do is amend my soil with the rock, and top dress, and dial it all in for my size grow, my question is this though, I found my limestone, my gypsum, got some green sand, but for life of me can find th phosphate, and I dont want to get the wrong kind, so is there a common place that would have it as my lowes and the depot dont carry it? Thanks bro, and nice work! Also I would like to chim in on the living mulch you should give a try. I get organic hardwood no dies top dress bout 2 inch thick, the stuff is amazing for micro herd, its like super housing for them, it stays damp longer which means longer herd life, I was using 20 ounce cups in perpep sog they kept drying out to fast, ph spikes, and a nightmare, moved up to gal and started hi brix, since the change with mulch just awesome!

It really is just organics...but where it's different is you have to really understand the importance of mineralizing the soil and the symbiotic relationship between the plants and the micro organisms in the soil.

What you can find locally is going to depend on where you live. Around me, the most common source is from Espoma. You can search Espoma Rock Phosphate, and it will come up at a bunch of sites. The one you are looking for has an NPK of 0-3-0. Most of the major garden centers around me carry it, but Home dePot and Lowes don't. You could also try an Ace, True Value, or Sears Hardware if you have them in your area.

The same company makes a Super Phosphate, 0-20-0 and a Triple Super Phosphate, 0-45-0. Please do not use those!

Be careful with the mulch...Although it will hold in the moisture, it can also use up a lot of nitrogen as it breaks down. I have used hydroton clay pellets for that purpose...it does the same thing without the decomposition.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Yes nice moms, and yes a bonsai journal is good idea I have somewhat of an idea but dont know the spasifics to do it, and my veg is crowded with ladies and big pots would love to thin the space and start my other strains. I run nightshade, pakistan valley 100%landrace indica, white widow, afgan kush,snow white, planning on getting my og's to fullfill my arsenal of top potent selection!

bro! I may do a bonsai mom journal...I just need to get my life under control first. I am barely keeping up now!

I love the sound of the pakistan valley! What's the high like?

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Well, I see you're kicking ass and taking names over here Vape!

Nice work, bro!

I love your tea brewer! And don't you just love that Nature's own with the Yucca?

Like you, I'll never grow without these products.

Doc! brother!

Thanks for stopping in! They seem to be doing great, but I'm not seeing the sheen that you've described. They have only been growing less than a month, and I haven't given them their first fish fertilizer feeding yet either. Any thoughts?

The nature's own is amazing. I love that I'm working with a known commodity instead of guessing at what kinds of microbes and fungi I'm growing. The yucca really impresses me too, but it is expensive! Oh well, I don't mind spending money if it produces results!

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I'm a little late to the party but I call that "making a grand entrance".

Hope you don't mind if I join in??? Loving your style and all the great info!!!!

Hey MsMe! for the kind words!

Mind? I'm honored you'd like to follow along! Come on in and make yourself comfortable...we're all family here!

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Remember...If you ask me a question and I miss it, say something! Between tending to the girls, working on the new grow rooms, getting my vegetable garden ready, running this journal, the 30 or so other journals I'm subscribed to, and I don't even know how many other threads, I will at some point miss someone's post!

Okay...so it's been a week, and interestingly enough they went the entire week without a watering. The pots were very light though, and I want to keep the micro herd happy, so I won't go that long again. I repented for my sins by administering this tea application by dunking! One thing I have to say about that...is what an incredible pain in the ass it was!

Let me start with a disclaimer...I just vaped a large amount of White Widow, so this might get interesting.

So...to dunk 49 plants I decided to pick up a 27 gallon tote. I had just over 20 gallons of tea. I used a second drip tub where I rested the plants for a few minutes before I put them back in the grow tray, then I poured the runoff back into the first tote. It took about 7-8 seconds for each pot to absorb enough tea.

The difficult part is that 49 plants in a 4x4 tray is tight, and the Air-Pots tend to interlock when you are trying to pull them out, unless it's on the edge. So I had to remove one row of plants then slide the remaining 42 down and then pull out the first row on the other side and start dunking them, going through the drip tray and then into the grow tray. The whole time trying not to dowse the hardwood floor in my grow room.

To set this up, dunk the SOG and mothers, spray them down, and clean up, took 3+ hours...that's all I'm going to say about that.

So, dunking them did allow me to pull Peg out for a closer look. My little under achiever was really just a late bloomer! She caught up to the pack, and If I had not left a piece of bark on the top of the pot to identify her, I would not have been able to tell you which one she was!

See for yourself!

You could also see some root air pruning in action.

I even took a pic of the bottom. It probably would have been a good idea to take the pics before I dunked her, so tea wasn't dribbling on the camera as I took the pic...anyway, here it is.

So now for some group shots! But first, I just need to say that although I can get half-way decent close up pics with the flash, as I move back, I'm stuck with the HPS lighting which I can't stand. Now I own Apertue and Photoshop CS5, but owning them doesn't mean I know how to use them...so please know I'm doing the best I can to correct the color, I'm sure I'll get better as I go, but as of now it took 102 pictures to get these, that I'm able to post.

It was 6 days of 12/12 until first signs of flowering. They're all about 15" high, so that's 6 inches of growth in that timeframe. I wonder if that will keep up...It's going to be fun to watch for sure!

 

[Stoned4daze61]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

True Sea of Green! Looks Like a damn forest brotha and you're just getting started

Great Job

 

[MsMe]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

So...to dunk 49 plants I decided to pick up a 27 gallon tote. I had just over 20 gallons of tea. I used a second drip tub where I rested the plants for a few minutes before I put them back in the grow tray, then I poured the runoff back into the first tote. It took about 7-8 seconds for each pot to absorb enough tea.

The difficult part is that 49 plants in a 4x4 tray is tight, and the Air-Pots tend to interlock when you are trying to pull them out, unless it's on the edge. So I had to remove one row of plants then slide the remaining 42 down and then pull out the first row on the other side and start dunking them, going through the drip tray and then into the grow tray. The whole time trying not to dowse the hardwood floor in my grow room.

I can totally picture it....




You describe everything so well...one of the things I really like about this journal!!!!!

 

[OldMedMan]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

MY friend, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed your whole description of all you do to get your girls to look and grow like they are.The how and why was text book. Loved the roots shoving their way through the holes in the AirPots.
If you are not one of the most complete Growers on our beloved 420, I don't know who is. Thank You Brother!

 

[CronicHempHog]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

if its not your first job its certainly is your second job
props brotha.........

 

[SmokzAlot]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Top Notch Dogg..

 

[narrowpath]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Without getting too "out there" on Vape's journal.......

I could not agree with you more about your comments RE the government and our food supply.

Why is it that America always exports junk food? Why does the whole world drink Coca-Cola? Is it really that good?

Why does it seem like most people eat food out of a box these days?

If you take a population of rats----and this has been done---and limit one nutrient or the other, the rats behave differently. Sometimes they go docile and lazy, other times they start killing eachother....just depends on what nutrient you cut out of their food.

Every dictator knows that limiting the population's protein intake, either through famine or planned diet, makes the people more manageable. Prisons are very careful what they feed the inmates. Same with school lunch programs.

The quality of our produce is pure crap and getting worse. Cattle eat crap feed and forage, therefore the meat from them isn't what it should be.

For very little money, a rancher could broadcast minerals in a pasture, and grow high brix alfalfa and forage for his herd, which would be healthier in every way. Same with a farmer and his crops.

If people could eat decent food for just one year, their health would change dramatically....just like with the rats.

I don't think it's an accident that we don't try to grow the healthiest food.

Man couldnt said any better, yes vape not trying to sway your thread sorry bro learned the hard way my first time, but I think this info goes hand in hand, yeah some ppl may not believe it to be this way, but this is truth, and somehow nothing can sway me from what I have learn this week from this hi brix method, and to think wine has been done like this as early as 1800s I could be wrong, may be even earlier, but either way it comes down to the availability of knowledge, and you will see the more learn the more you get to dead end that lay at military, or governments doors, with a seens that they already know this stuff???? Humm... either way good stuff!!

love these threads, makes you happy someone out there is not in the fast lane drooling going 40mph !

 

[narrowpath]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Remember...If you ask me a question and I miss it, say something! Between tending to the girls, working on the new grow rooms, getting my vegetable garden ready, running this journal, the 30 or so other journals I'm subscribed to, and I don't even know how many other threads, I will at some point miss someone's post!

Okay...so it's been a week, and interestingly enough they went the entire week without a watering. The pots were very light though, and I want to keep the micro herd happy, so I won't go that long again. I repented for my sins by administering this tea application by dunking! One thing I have to say about that...is what an incredible pain in the ass it was!

Let me start with a disclaimer...I just vaped a large amount of White Widow, so this might get interesting.

So...to dunk 49 plants I decided to pick up a 27 gallon tote. I had just over 20 gallons of tea. I used a second drip tub where I rested the plants for a few minutes before I put them back in the grow tray, then I poured the runoff back into the first tote. It took about 7-8 seconds for each pot to absorb enough tea.

The difficult part is that 49 plants in a 4x4 tray is tight, and the Air-Pots tend to interlock when you are trying to pull them out, unless it's on the edge. So I had to remove one row of plants then slide the remaining 42 down and then pull out the first row on the other side and start dunking them, going through the drip tray and then into the grow tray. The whole time trying not to dowse the hardwood floor in my grow room.

To set this up, dunk the SOG and mothers, spray them down, and clean up, took 3+ hours...that's all I'm going to say about that.

So, dunking them did allow me to pull Peg out for a closer look. My little under achiever was really just a late bloomer! She caught up to the pack, and If I had not left a piece of bark on the top of the pot to identify her, I would not have been able to tell you which one she was!

See for yourself!

You could also see some root air pruning in action.

I even took a pic of the bottom. It probably would have been a good idea to take the pics before I dunked her, so tea wasn't dribbling on the camera as I took the pic...anyway, here it is.

So now for some group shots! But first, I just need to say that although I can get half-way decent close up pics with the flash, as I move back, I'm stuck with the HPS lighting which I can't stand. Now I own Apertue and Photoshop CS5, but owning them doesn't mean I know how to use them...so please know I'm doing the best I can to correct the color, I'm sure I'll get better as I go, but as of now it took 102 pictures to get these, that I'm able to post.

It was 6 days of 12/12 until first signs of flowering. They're all about 15" high, so that's 6 inches of growth in that timeframe. I wonder if that will keep up...It's going to be fun to watch for sure!

Damn, I heard of sweet talking the ladies but dang bro you got some verbal game, what you wispering in their ears to fludder so sexy, wow nice group of ladies.

Hell I am getting their tho, thanks to the doc, and other like you, since I topped dressed a few sickly street walkin ladies with the dust, and already, noticing the new growth is way better, they look weird from a distance cus some leaves are half crispy and yellow, yes that bad, but they kinda look like dandy lions with a quick glace, lol.

 

[MSquared]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Great update Vape! I sure hope you have some time to relax with that schedule of yours! Keep it up and I can't wait to watch how these ICE do for you.

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

they are looking amazing and healthy, got me thinking organically,,,,hmm i do have lots of soil amendments,,actually i have 2 square 1 gallon pots im gonna keep mothers in...

 

[mikey420]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I love watching your girls grow! And not to mention your whole set up is oh so glorious. Keep it up and you know ill be following closely. The plants I have in my mineralized 6/5/3/ seem to be a notch better and more advanced then the other ones that are in just regular soil.

 

[Icemud]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Very nice job on the SOG Vape!!! they all look so uniform and healthy!!!! also congrats on kicking some serious @ss on the MotM contest!! you deserve the win buddy!!! awesome journal!

 

[MsMe]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

The reps were well deserved

I'm subbed to about 10 journals but yours is my favorite right now



Some stories like OldMedMan tells wouldn't hurt though...lol

Seriously...keep up the good work...can't wait to see how it turns out.

 

[Headstomper]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

subbed some of your links are awesome! gunna try to make a bonzai mother for sure!!!

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Hey everyone, I hope you all had a happy 4/20!

I just realized I hadn't posted any pics of what I've started calling the "mom cave". It's been about 10 days since the last pics I posted, when they were switched over to the GLR.

They had been root pruned 2 weeks before that, so it would be tough to attribute their condition to any one factor...but I can say the GLR is definitely NOT hurting them! They seem very happy and healthy...but I'll let you be the judge!

Left side.

Center.

The six small moms above, are White Widow. They were all root pruned and moved into a slightly larger pot about a week ago. If you go back and look they are doing much better now. They weren't badly root bound, and I probably could have just scored the rootball and moved them into a larger pot, but I really wanted to get them into as much of the fresh, mineralized soil as possible. I also raised them up a bit closer to the light.

And the right side.

Here's a peek into the mom cave, through the doorway.

I'm definitely liking the Gas Lantern Routine, and I'm glad I made the switch! Twelve12!

I know this is rather subjective, and some people might read this and think I'm nuts, but I'm very "in tune" with my all my girls...and I can say that they do seem less stressed. Now...I know some of you are saying "he can't tell if his plants are stressed or not", but when you spend as much time training, pruning, super cropping, and generally stressing the bejusus out of them as I have, I think I can tell the difference...either that, or I'm really baked!



Also, I think it's safe to say I've decided I will be starting a journal just for the moms. I'm not sure exactly when I'll get it up...but it will be coming.

for stopping by!

 

[Stoned4daze61]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Even got the Basil's chillen in air pots ! Looks like a happy healthy "mom cave"