Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[Danishoes21]

It's pretty common in the bottom watering containers to start out with some top watering. The roots will follow the water down with gravity. It's pretty obvious when they figure out the process as the growth seems to go into overdrive almost overnight.

thank you Azi, I really needed some guidance there. I been reading SIP stuff here and elsewhere I think I missed the part where people top water the first times until its auto mode; I went yesterday and made at least 50 1/8th size holes in the bottom of the bucket. Lots of water came down from the watering. I have been foliar feeding this reservoir experiment but only foliar wasn't keeping up with the demand and the high heat. Im surprised she lasted at least 12 days with no water at all since the last rain hit. She picked up yesterday and she looks fine now, she was really dehydrated. I did see that the sticks I put at the bottom layer were wet, I assume that somewhat of the wicking effect is done by them how far up the pot I am not sure... Will the roots like the wet sticks?? Not sure. I should be seeing some roots coming any time soon.

 

[Danishoes21]

Finally

 

[Danishoes21]

Not only am I stoked about getting the seeds today, I’m very excited about the nomination and I am relieved I could finally get to do a good update on my phenos… the youngsters that is. Lots of small little details, difference in fan leaf, in height, Color, overall size and thriving force. I have already placed numbers by preference but it can also turn to be completely different set of traits that might catch my attention, for now it’s a waiting game.

PINK KUSH

SUPER LEMON HAZE

DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

DURBAN POISON X FM

PERSONAL SATIVA F1X FM

 

[CaptainLucky]

Finally

Very nice I can’t wait to see what you can achieve with them. CL

 

[StoneOtter]

Looking great Dani! Nice that the goods came in too!

 

[Danishoes21]

Looking great Dani! Nice that the goods came in too!

Thanks Stone, I’m stoked on the beans. I might have to hold on doing them all at once… I have too many plants at the moment. I’m thinking or doing 3 of the new beans, with hopes a make and a female.

 

[Danishoes21]

Morning walk along the garden; no surprise, everything is looking good. No water this morning it’s dry period.

The youngster might have to stay in those pots until the end of the month. At a certain point I have to decide and split the plants in half 6 here 6 elsewhere, for environmental purpose, I would like 2 different conditions for same cultivar.

 

[KeithLemon]

Nice LST

 

[Danishoes21]

Morning routine;

Slight different morning, one of the Autos could be flashing balls at me… let’s have a look

On another note; Auxins effect are something like this; in the picture below notice how node 1,2 and 3 have only one highly elongated stem and then stop and stack nodes parallel to the 5th and 6th node on the main stem… now the 5th node on the main stem has equal development on both sides and so on till the tip of the plant.
There is a relationship between the distribution of growth hormones between the nodes where the training (stress) was applied. Last time around I left all branches, this time I want to completely eliminate the side that was least favoured by the auxins exchange as now it has become a sucker of energy for the other side that has all the bulk of energy (the tallest branch on each node).

The other auto is looking way better. Vancouver island has had some weird spring very hot and dry so it’s whatever kind of weather here. 30 Celsius peaked this week.

The youngster thriving, showing more and more small differences. It’s pretty exciting having all these phenos to play with, also it’s a Russian roulette because I have no feminized seed here so what ever it is… it will be.
From top to bottom is Sativa dominant to indica dominant.
PSf1XFM
DPXFM
super Lemon haze
Pink kush and Duterte’s Nightmare

Last night;

 

[CaptainLucky]

Morning routine;

Slight different morning, one of the Autos could be flashing balls at me… let’s have a look

On another note; Auxins effect are something like this; in the picture below notice how node 1,2 and 3 have only one highly elongated stem and then stop and stack nodes parallel to the 5th and 6th node on the main stem… now the 5th node on the main stem has equal development on both sides and so on till the tip of the plant.
There is a relationship between the distribution of growth hormones between the nodes where the training (stress) was applied. Last time around I left all branches, this time I want to completely eliminate the side that was least favoured by the auxins exchange as now it has become a sucker of energy for the other side that has all the bulk of energy (the tallest branch on each node).

The other auto is looking way better. Vancouver island has had some weird spring very hot and dry so it’s whatever kind of weather here. 30 Celsius peaked this week.

The youngster thriving, showing more and more small differences. It’s pretty exciting having all these phenos to play with, also it’s a Russian roulette because I have no feminized seed here so what ever it is… it will be.
From top to bottom is Sativa dominant to indica dominant.
PSf1XFM
DPXFM
super Lemon haze
Pink kush and Duterte’s Nightmare

Last night;

CL

 

[Sparkey224]

 

[Danishoes21]

On watering schedule note;

None of the cannabis plants have seen the normal water (tap or well); the only plain water that touched them has been rain almost 2 weeks ago. That been said I water them exclusively with my “mother tea”… I have been adding stuff as I go.
Next on the list is Willow fresh leaf material, I hadn’t harvest any yet because the Willow trees around only started to veg and produce leaf material in the past few weeks.
With the Willow addition that would make a stellar combo;

Rain water
Dandelion
Horsetail
Nettle
Plantain major
Seedweed
Comfrey
Clover
Goat manure
Sprouted barley syrup

This is what I water and foliar feed almost Inter day with an occasional dry period. I haven’t had the need to use Neem oil yet.

I figured that it’s too much elbow grease to foliar feed every different tea I make so put them all in one big soup. It’s still an Anaerobic tea as there is no oxygen supply. So far I haven’t seen any crazy reactions to my exclusive tea schedule.

Also went to Buckerfield today (local plant shop), a 1 litre bottle of Kelp or seaweed liquid fertilizer was 40$. LOL
I can’t tell the difference between what I am doing and that product. I find that very very expensive counting that seaweed is free and abundant and processing seaweed in facility at small scale for plants not for human consumption, shouldn’t be that costly. Ohh and kelp powder 50$ for 2 lbs bag…. Makes me wonder if I am seen a market gap and a potential entry point to the organic liquid fertilizer business. Anyway ohhh a 10 gallon bucket cad $11,99 I only got 2 lol growing has been majorly affected by inflation.

Due to cost I might just have to settle for 10 gallons pots for all my plants this year with the possibility of only 4 best phenos going into my last year 30 gallon pots, I only have 4.

Let’s see how things flow.

 

[CaptainLucky]

On watering schedule note;

None of the cannabis plants have seen the normal water (tap or well); the only plain water that touched them has been rain almost 2 weeks ago. That been said I water them exclusively with my “mother tea”… I have been adding stuff as I go.
Next on the list is Willow fresh leaf material, I hadn’t harvest any yet because the Willow trees around only started to veg and produce leaf material in the past few weeks.
With the Willow addition that would make a stellar combo;

Rain water
Dandelion
Horsetail
Nettle
Plantain major
Seedweed
Comfrey
Clover
Goat manure
Sprouted barley syrup

This is what I water and foliar feed almost Inter day with an occasional dry period. I haven’t had the need to use Neem oil yet.

I figured that it’s too much elbow grease to foliar feed every different tea I make so put them all in one big soup. It’s still an Anaerobic tea as there is no oxygen supply. So far I haven’t seen any crazy reactions to my exclusive tea schedule.

Also went to Buckerfield today (local plant shop), a 1 litre bottle of Kelp or seaweed liquid fertilizer was 40$. LOL
I can’t tell the difference between what I am doing and that product. I find that very very expensive counting that seaweed is free and abundant and processing seaweed in facility at small scale for plants not for human consumption, shouldn’t be that costly. Ohh and kelp powder 50$ for 2 lbs bag…. Makes me wonder if I am seen a market gap and a potential entry point to the organic liquid fertilizer business. Anyway ohhh a 10 gallon bucket cad $11,99 I only got 2 lol growing has been majorly affected by inflation.

Due to cost I might just have to settle for 10 gallons pots for all my plants this year with the possibility of only 4 best phenos going into my last year 30 gallon pots, I only have 4.

Let’s see how things flow.

Hey bro how did that willow work out for you last year with the PM? CL

 

[Danishoes21]

Hey bro how did that willow work out for you last year with the PM? CL

In total honesty I believe it worked; I didn’t have PM that’s the first sign meanwhile everything around the plant had mayor PM that’s in Late September and October. Second thing I noticed almost no bud rot let’s say lesss than 10% of loss to bud rot. The most shocking one was Mold, I did not see a major outbreak of mold I just seen focalized mold on the bottom stem of the Durban poison mother.

Keep in mind my plants stayed outside until late October, they even had snow on them, hail and rain. No major pests. I also had a rigorous foliar regime even sprayed Willow tea while budding all the way to the harvest time.

The way I see it, preventive measures taken in early Veg and flower activate SAR response on the plant (Systemic Acquired Response).

Systemic Acquired Resistance

Upon infection with necrotizing pathogens many plants develop an enhanced resistance to further pathogen attack also in the uninoculated organs. This type of enhanced resistance is referred to as systemic acquired resistance (SAR). In the SAR state, plants ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I have several pages back in my journal dedicated to this.

Salicylic acid does work.

I will run more test to further prove this works.

 

[Danishoes21]

Hey bro how did that willow work out for you last year with the PM? CL

Post in thread 'Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow'
Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

Just to refresh your memory Captain, you asked me last year how it went, the post dates September 22th, this is major PM time anywhere in Canada. Have a look. Let me know your thoughts.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Morning routine;

Slight different morning, one of the Autos could be flashing balls at me… let’s have a look

On another note; Auxins effect are something like this; in the picture below notice how node 1,2 and 3 have only one highly elongated stem and then stop and stack nodes parallel to the 5th and 6th node on the main stem… now the 5th node on the main stem has equal development on both sides and so on till the tip of the plant.
There is a relationship between the distribution of growth hormones between the nodes where the training (stress) was applied. Last time around I left all branches, this time I want to completely eliminate the side that was least favoured by the auxins exchange as now it has become a sucker of energy for the other side that has all the bulk of energy (the tallest branch on each node).

The other auto is looking way better. Vancouver island has had some weird spring very hot and dry so it’s whatever kind of weather here. 30 Celsius peaked this week.

The youngster thriving, showing more and more small differences. It’s pretty exciting having all these phenos to play with, also it’s a Russian roulette because I have no feminized seed here so what ever it is… it will be.
From top to bottom is Sativa dominant to indica dominant.
PSf1XFM
DPXFM
super Lemon haze
Pink kush and Duterte’s Nightmare

Last night;

Really looking like you’re of to great start mi hermano. CL

 

[CaptainLucky]

Post in thread 'Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow'
Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

Just to refresh your memory Captain, you asked me last year how it went, the post dates September 22th, this is major PM time anywhere in Canada. Have a look. Let me know your thoughts.

I have 2 questions 1st what did you learn was why so dramatic of a difference between being in the ground as opposed to being in a pot. And second how often did you use your willow tea n starting when. Guess that’s 3 questions but if you have a proven mold/bud rot formula I want some. CL

 

[Azimuth]

With the Willow addition that would make a stellar combo;

Rain water
Dandelion
Horsetail
Nettle
Plantain major
Seedweed
Comfrey
Clover
Goat manure
Sprouted barley syrup

That's a pretty good list, @danishoes21 !

Also went to Buckerfield today (local plant shop), a 1 litre bottle of Kelp or seaweed liquid fertilizer was 40$. LOL
I can’t tell the difference between what I am doing and that product. I find that very very expensive counting that seaweed is free and abundant and processing seaweed in facility at small scale for plants not for human consumption, shouldn’t be that costly

I feel the same way about seeds. I tried to make a few a while back and ended up with close to 500. I'd imagine a professional grower with big plants would be able to generate many times that number with very little effort.

I get that there are development costs with finding a plant with the proper characteristics, but still.

On the seaweed front, they  do typically use a specific type of North Atlantic seaweed, and not just anything found anywhere. So, processing and shipping coats add to it I guess.

 

[Danishoes21]

I have 2 questions 1st what did you learn was why so dramatic of a difference between being in the ground as opposed to being in a pot. And second how often did you use your willow tea n starting when. Guess that’s 3 questions but if you have a proven mold/bud rot formula I want some. CL

So this is where the internet will grill me.

How can I scientifically proof that it worked? I need a Lab test to see if there was leftover PM or mold spores on the plant. I can’t afford to do that just for internet reputation, I rather keep it silent.
What I gave the internet was over 200 photos that can be compared, looked at and well discussed between growers; was there any PM, mold or bud rot at the end of October…?
I for sure seen PM, mold and bud rot many many times and I can tell you my last grow I had slim to none of these. Was it indeed the Salicylic acid in the willow ? Or the silica in the horse tail? I can’t really say because I used many things.

The one thing I can assure you and the rest of the growing community is that there many many studies on Salicylic Acid and phytohormones of plants, what I previously mention SAR systematic acquired response. It’s all there on the internet, people just need to read.

I don’t use safers, or citric acid, or milk, or none of that to cure PM; my personal opinion NONE of those work; as I seen people here use them and still have PM after…

First of all I focus on plant health, homeostasis and I build up resistance by exposing plants to pests, and that’s just standard outdoors ORGANIC method. I have to make that very clear I use only organic methods to treat my plants from cannabis to tomatoes to cabbages. Most of the research I do is applied to vegetable crops as well and the results are there to see. I don’t have abundance in pest or illnesses, quite the contrary… last year I was surprised my plants had nothing and 20 feet away my buddies plants in his greenhouse had pm in late September.

I gathered enough substancial evidence that something protected my plants from PM.


Question one
I learnt that should never trust a friend that says “yeah grow as many big plants as you can in my back yard”. Bullshit. Cannabis is like money it has no friends.-

Question two
I started using my Willow tea formula around early September last year, I tested it on a leaf of a tree that was horribly affected by PM. After one week spraying 2 times a day I saw results that I found acceptable, I then moved on to try with Cannabis. I sprayed every week at least 3 times all the way till the end November.

Plants treated showed a stain, it had a White/greyish Color on the top fan leaves, nothing I had ever seen before. I could only conclude that those marks were in fact dead spores of Mildew as the plant did not show signs of Powdery Mildew; when I passed my finger no dust residue, just a stain.

Simple test I seen Shed had done on his thread, pass your finger on the PM see the results.

I found no hyphae on the marks in the fan leaves, no hyphae = no mycelium = no living fungus = no PM.

I do appreciate your interest Captain, only a few of you out there have actually shown interest in what I have been doing here, hopefully you guys try it and see for yourself if it works or not… I’ve seen people try other stuff recommended by others… no results.-

 

[Danishoes21]

That's a pretty good list, @danishoes21 !


I feel the same way about seeds. I tried to make a few a while back and ended up with close to 500. I'd imagine a professional grower with big plants would be able to generate many times that number with very little effort.

I get that there are development costs with finding a plant with the proper characteristics, but still.

On the seaweed front, they  do typically use a specific type of North Atlantic seaweed, and not just anything found anywhere. So, processing and shipping coats add to it I guess.

It’s just Kelp my friend. To find kelp I would have to dive in the west coast side of the island, huge kelp forest there. Rock seaweed is what I use. I yet to find a difference in the Kelp extract sold on the stores and the seaweed extract I do.
Kelp is used for human consumption because it can be farmed. Kelp has lot more size and tissue so makes it harder for me to harvest and transport.

I have a specific spot where I get mine.

To my simple eyes seaweed is seaweed… that being kelp, nori, rockweed or any other one. The essence of seaweed is micro nutrients and salinity.