Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[Danishoes21]

WOW!!! SO beautiful.... man, when you let loose with the pics.... we have had such excellent weather now for 6 weeks soon 7. It's locked in and that makes it harder to change. Yay. You can see it in your plants.

Great rescue job, D. Things are going along in best possible scenario, so far, and whatever good Karma I may have I hereby now officially donate to the CAD outdoor efforts out there. You got this.

I appreciate the kind words RD. Its been wonderful weather lately I cant complain. It hasnt been easy since I moved the plants back in August 1st.

So, you're gonna use the plantain as a foliar, sorta weekly? (best you can)

Im to scared to use it as foliar, instead I used it as part of my root watering mix today. I might use the plantain as foliar for the clones to experiment. It would be every time I see the plants (ideally once a week).

I'm so sorry I missed you. Such a dumbass I am, but there it is. I was trying to move the piece of wire I had wrapped around the shishkabob stake and it was super stuck on so gave it a good shove, lost my grip and rammed it into the opposing hand. There are way worse things to experience, it really wasn't so bad at all.

I'm going to the farm supply shop tomorrow, Lord willin' and the creek don't rise, to pick up a large feed container. Circular, mebbe six feet diameter. I have a light that has 360 deg coverage and I'm going to arrange the Mom plants around it sitting in the feeder (like a circular kids' splash pool, 'cept deeper, and hardcore! lol) Plants will be in 3-5ish gal pots, some cloth, some plastic, and standing on a couple 6-8 inch lengths of 4 inch perforated drain pipe that are filled with gravel, in the "pool". I maintain the watering from below benefit this way and the gravel wicks slowly so it should suit the moms just fine.

It's in a white-painted, low, angled roof attic with lots of skylights so the nat. light really benefits up there. Last year I was growing tomatoes in January with a tiny light up there. I intend to cover exposed water with black poly and have condensation run back into "pool". Bit of a project, but not really, really.

I need to be able to not climb the ladder up there on days when I'm unwell. SIPs to the rescue. Hopefully, I'll figure out how to rein in growth at a pace I am comfortable with because these SIPs are rippers, mate, and adding natural light could get a little cray-cray.

You gotta take it easy if you need recovery time but I do understand passionate peps that still wanna perform no matter what the deal may be. Dont get me wrong Im more than happy to keep seeing the work.

More drama! Another Duterte's Nightmare popped up! Yeah, and then guess what dumbass did? I knocked over/dropped the entire tray. All four were spewed completely out of their soil, bare ass, crumpled. Not even old enough for a second set of real leaves. Despair. Deeeep and agonizing... for all of one full second. Steeled my resolve and fixed everything with a teeny egg spoon and a spray bottle.

Miracle of miracles, all are well 2 days later. I'll post on my thread. I did not know how I was going to tell you that I'd killed our children. So glad I didn't, and ecstatic I didn't have to.

*sigh* I told you.... I'm not worthy! But I am really trying to be...

Everything is shaping them to be some outstanding phenos.
They gotta have some sort of jungle survival trait in them

Please keep sharing! I know it must be much more difficult now but you can adapt, have adapted, like your plants did. I know personally what you went through and it is extraordinarily tough on our personalities, loved ones, sense of self, and that's before even digging them up. It was an impressive effort on all fronts, from my perspective.

I can only look at it for what it is; the art of growing. Right now it makes no sense financially to chase so many plants. I'm loving it, I get a kick out of it, and if I do a good job 'till the end I get to smoke it. But since I moved them 40km(80k roundtrip) away from me, every time I drive is 40$, 10 trips 400$... vs how many grms of return....? I know this makes me sound cheap but the reason most of us all started to grow our own was to save money. So Its just like art, it makes no financial sense to make it but artist still do it because thats their thing.

I'm in it, I aint quiting, and they will flower and I will keep sharing.
Its just art.

Hope you had a nice long weekend.

 

[Danishoes21]

Long weekend and beautiful day, went to pay a visit to the big ladies in the pot.
Today we had the first rain in weeks, I think PM season is open and ready to serve us all. Reason why I am alert and trying to keep a steady visit cycle to the plants specially knowing that one pheno is mid way thru flower.
I went and tried a mix for watering the roots I used seaweed tea, fern tea, and the common platain I recently started, glacial rock dust, rock phosphate. 23ltr mix divided by all 4. For foliar horsetail, neem.

I got lots of photos again so bare with me.

Chunky Skunk
She has put some fast moving in to flower, she is showing more and more pistils. Every time I visit she has lower fan leaves turning yellow and falling off, Im guessing she is dumping Nitrogen reserves? Self regulation? she doesnt seem at all bad, Im not too worried about the lower foliage falling. The suspected PM stains dont seem to have expanded and Im still looking for PM at every visit, Im thinking something in the foliar is leaving a mark, but why only on this pheno? Anyway ill keep an eye. Ohh yeah she stinks already, working on her today she's got a smell already way more than the rest of the phenos.

 

[Danishoes21]

Duterte's Nightmare
Keep in mind that when I started to grow this seed I had no clue what to expect. Here she is starting to show more and more of the traits I would look in a Sativa. The structure the cola is taking and where every bud is going to be set, she has stopped all the big fan leaves and started producing lots of smaller sugar leaves. I really like what I'm seeing, never lost that green color, seems like nothing is missing for her. This is such a revelation by the end of the month we get to see the buds.

@ReservoirDog

 

[Danishoes21]

Personal Sativa
Will she start to flower this week? I know exactly whats happening here I didnt do Light deprevation to start the early flower. The unstable grow conditions this year have'nt allowed me to fully work these phenos like I would have wanted to. To do Light deprevation outdoors you need to have your grow setup close to you, its impossible to do it otherwise. I rather just let it go.
She is amazing, tall, elegant, with so much potential but she is taking too long. I can only hope the rain has mercy on her. The coming days she will start getting very close to 12 hours of dark lets see her swing.

 

[Danishoes21]

Xenomorph
What can I say, she is the main show at the moment, so far ahead of the pack. I know that the fast flowering trait is something I would like to keep. She is just getting better and better, All the tops are filling up, she is got so many tops floating around, bent over, side ways... she is mangled but flowering, and fast. Every time I look at these plants I try to forget that they where in the ground for such a long time and ended up in a pot... ptsd. I have to be grateful and patience.
They all have a story to tell, here is hers.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Sorry D, that was part of an answer but with respect to my versions and for my thread that I just pulled down from this post. Was out of synch. Apologies.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Too bad for 'personal' she's not gonna make it, mate. Nothing without buds can go fast enough now, regardless the weather, when the light goes, it all goes. So the earth's orbit would have to change. Laws of thermodynamics give a hardcap on how fast a plant can create mass.

 

[Bill284]

Xenomorph
What can I say, she is the main show at the moment, so far ahead of the pack. I know that the fast flowering trait is something I would like to keep. She is just getting better and better, All the tops are filling up, she is got so many tops floating around, bent over, side ways... she is mangled but flowering, and fast. Every time I look at these plants I try to forget that they where in the ground for such a long time and ended up in a pot... ptsd. I have to be grateful and patience.
They all have a story to tell, here is hers.

Terrific garden Amigo.
Girls are all healthy and happy.
Everyone looks great.
We are in the time crunch now, hope they get to the finish line in a hurry for you.
Take care my friend.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Danishoes21]

Too bad for 'personal' she's not gonna make it, mate. Nothing without buds can go fast enough now, regardless the weather, when the light goes, it all goes. So the earth's orbit would have to change. Laws of thermodynamics give a hardcap on how fast a plant can create mass.

I know RD she ain’t making it . I’m just not allowing myself to give out negative energy despite it being so obvious. She needs time and she ain’t got time.
All the data I have from my last grow on the island is from 2018… so much has changed since (weather wise) I had to start from scratch and re learn the weather and sunlight, just how to grow sativas again. Light deprivation was supposed to be done in July to get the wheels going, I didn’t I mean I couldn’t it all blew up when I was supposed to start light dep…
Ahh I have let them go the day I dug ‘em out.
I hope you get a hold on these genetics as you can see its pretty wild still lots of work needs to be done for them to be ready for northern weather.

 

[Azimuth]

I know RD she ain’t making it . I’m just not allowing myself to give out negative energy despite it being so obvious. She needs time and she ain’t got time.
All the data I have from my last grow on the island is from 2018… so much has changed since (weather wise) I had to start from scratch and re learn the weather and sunlight, just how to grow sativas again. Light deprivation was supposed to be done in July to get the wheels going, I didn’t I mean I couldn’t it all blew up when I was supposed to start light dep…
Ahh I have let them go the day I dug ‘em out.
I hope you get a hold on these genetics as you can see its pretty wild still lots of work needs to be done for them to be ready for northern weather.

A good plant to experiment with then, maybe?

 

[Danishoes21]

Terrific garden Amigo.
Girls are all healthy and happy.
Everyone looks great.
We are in the time crunch now, hope they get to the finish line in a hurry for you.
Take care my friend.




Stay safe
Bill284

Thanks Bill

Girls are doing their best to stay a float. I’m pretty happy with them but yeah the concern is real. I might have a chance to slip them into my friends greenhouse I just have to wait until he is ok with that.

Hope you had some fun during the weekend.

Puff puff

 

[Danishoes21]

A good plant to experiment with then, maybe?

She is, indeed.
And we have a different layout out in the mountain of the same genetic pool. It’s already an experiment on the go.
What should we do with them? I want to try foliar with common plantain with PM on it… it’s a risky one but I’m soooo curious. Another one I wanna try is high stress for flower and see what the consequences are… I wish I had pollen but too late for that, anyone has a fast flowering indica pollen I can use ? LoL

Any ideas ? I’m all ears.

 

[scottreid1966]

Xenomorph
What can I say, she is the main show at the moment, so far ahead of the pack. I know that the fast flowering trait is something I would like to keep. She is just getting better and better, All the tops are filling up, she is got so many tops floating around, bent over, side ways... she is mangled but flowering, and fast. Every time I look at these plants I try to forget that they where in the ground for such a long time and ended up in a pot... ptsd. I have to be grateful and patience.
They all have a story to tell, here is hers.

Looks fantastic, Danish! Keep it up.

Do you use any bud enhancers?

 

[Azimuth]

What should we do with them? I want to try foliar with common plantain with PM on it… it’s a risky one but I’m soooo curious.

Wow, that's a ballsy move. I think I'd try plantain without pm that grew near those that have it with the theory that that plant somehow has some resistance to it and whatever that resistance is you might be able to spread around.

With Jadam the idea is to go into the environment and pick plants that seem resistant to the bugs and diseases that other plants near it are suffering from. I'm not sure I'd purposely introduce pm. But, I'm all all eyes on you if you do.

 

[scottreid1966]

Wow, that's a ballsy move. I think I'd try plantain without pm that grew near those that have it with the theory that that plant somehow has some resistance to it and whatever that resistance is you might be able to spread around.

With Jadam the idea is to go into the environment and pick plants that seem resistant to the bugs and diseases that other plants near it are suffering from. I'm not sure I'd purposely introduce pm. But, I'm all all eyes on you if you do.

Seeing PM alot but unsure what it means. You have alot to teach, Azi but for me, its a slow precess.. lol

Cheers.

 

[Azimuth]

PM = Powdery Mildew. Looks like a light dusting of flour on the leaves.

But we don't like to say that out loud because, well, you know. Some say it's superstitious. I call it disease management.

 

[Danishoes21]

Looks fantastic, Danish! Keep it up.

Do you use any bud enhancers?

Thanks Scott, and no for the bud enhancers. The only store bought fertilizer is have are the ones I posted before. Rock phosphate, glacial rock dust, bone meal and all the seaweed and other teas I have been using.

 

[Danishoes21]

Wow, that's a ballsy move. I think I'd try plantain without pm that grew near those that have it with the theory that that plant somehow has some resistance to it and whatever that resistance is you might be able to spread around.

With Jadam the idea is to go into the environment and pick plants that seem resistant to the bugs and diseases that other plants near it are suffering from. I'm not sure I'd purposely introduce pm. But, I'm all all eyes on you if you do.

I know it seems like a stupid move or almost a miscalculated one. I understand what you saying in terms of using the one right next that has no PM, one would assume that plant has build up resistance to Powdery Mildew (@scottreid1966) .
The other school of thought is inoculate the host with the fungus/bacteria/virus (in thinking humans again) and the host should create antibodies and?or a resnpose to that stressor??

Either way Im thinking on the breeding side of things, any mold, PM or pest resistance can be seen on the offspring more clear rather than the mother??? If we innoculate the mother with PM to fight it she will eventually have it, fight it, and store all that data in the seed, later that seed would most likely produce the pheno with resistance to PM or mold or anything else..

Just trying to think it thru before I commit.

 

[Azimuth]

But I would think the mother either would or would not already have that resistance. I'm not sure innoculating a plant works the same way it does with our immune system. Hopefully the breeders in the crowd can weigh in.

 

[Mycelium Farmer]

I know it seems like a stupid move or almost a miscalculated one. I understand what you saying in terms of using the one right next that has no PM, one would assume that plant has build up resistance to Powdery Mildew (@scottreid1966) .
The other school of thought is inoculate the host with the fungus/bacteria/virus (in thinking humans again) and the host should create antibodies and?or a resnpose to that stressor??

Either way Im thinking on the breeding side of things, any mold, PM or pest resistance can be seen on the offspring more clear rather than the mother??? If we innoculate the mother with PM to fight it she will eventually have it, fight it, and store all that data in the seed, later that seed would most likely produce the pheno with resistance to PM or mold or anything else..

Just trying to think it thru before I commit.

I don't think introducing a plant to PM gives it the ability to combat it just like that.... otherwise cannabis wouldn't have a PM issue by now.... but there is defenitely something to do with genetics and PM resistance, considering certain strains are more susceptible than others.

Maybe introducing PM to the plant can give you an idea of what those certain genetics can handle PM wise though??