Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[Danishoes21]

Outdoor 5 phenos;

7:50 pm light. Best light is morning pictures are never great on this side.

PSF1 X DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

“PINK KUSH”

“SUPER LEMON HAZE”

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DUTCH DURBAN X DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

 

[Danishoes21]

the heavyweights;

DUTCH DURBAN
X
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Never ending HST.
I am on my 3rd set of branches bending and snapping.

PERSONAL SAT
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This is that one in a season pheno.

Stressing the Ace phenos. Give that male!

 

[CaptainLucky]

The Mango Auto flow is starting to feel that 7th day drought… 3 more to go;

This is the 5 pm straight in your face south exposure burns sun. I set the plants at the spot that has direct sunlight from 2pm until sunset But it’s intense and now diminishing light….
And this Auto is freaking greasy and stressed I can tell you that. Been seen some bananas coming on very precise spots where I had bent before. I haven’t done anything to this auto. Counting days to decide if harvest or not.

The pheno is ripe and the smell is intense. Smells incredibly sweet. Seen more yellowing bottoms… she is at he end of her lifespans. Feeding now is overkill.

Chop that bitch mi hermano! lol. CL.

 

[Danishoes21]

Morning mantra;

Senescence = don’t need Nitrogen. Let me flush myself out. Kill chlorophyll.
8th day no water, no foliar. Sticky as f@ck.

Foliar feed everyone but Mango.
First chop chop coming soon.



@Fudo Myoo aiming for the Neville’s canopy of yours bro.

 

[TwelveCoffee]

Morning mantra;

Senescence = don’t need Nitrogen. Let me flush myself out. Kill chlorophyll.
8th day no water, no foliar. Sticky as f@ck.

Foliar feed everyone but Mango.
First chop chop coming soon.



@Fudo Myoo aiming for the Neville’s canopy of yours bro.

Wow nice! So does draughting increase the stickiness?

 

[Danishoes21]

Wow nice! So does draughting increase the stickiness?

With out jumping into “bro science”; I think yeah.

Why I think it works ?
It’s a stress for the plant.
Stress = defensive response = more Trichomes.

The type of stress is biotic, drought will be considered a natural stresser for the plant. She doesn’t know it’s me make it not rain for her… so 50/50 it’s a man made (abiotic) stress of a natural occurrence that is drought (biotic).

I haven’t drought the other SIP auto…

 

[TwelveCoffee]

With out jumping into “bro science”; I think yeah.

Why I think it works ?
It’s a stress for the plant.
Stress = defensive response = more Trichomes.

The type of stress is biotic, drought will be considered a natural stresser for the plant. She doesn’t know it’s me make it not rain for her… so 50/50 it’s a man made (abiotic) stress of a natural occurrence that is drought (biotic).

I haven’t drought the other SIP auto…

Makes sense, was listening to a podcast today and they where saying during transition phases they raise their ph by a little to increase nutrient flow thought it was interesting but he also grew in coco not sure if it’s the same on soil

 

[Danishoes21]

Makes sense, was listening to a podcast today and they where saying during transition phases they raise their ph by a little to increase nutrient flow thought it was interesting but he also grew in coco not sure if it’s the same on soil

I have found by my own experience and experimenting, cannabis loves and reacts to stress.
All thru the lifecycle, I have stressed my plants constantly and they show in the way they grow and the pheno traits come up.

The ones I don’t stress don’t look the same.

For me stress is a key factor. Not nutrient stress with a heavy feeding that’s not something I will ever do.
I will do almost everything on the stress list.

High stress training is not super cropping. Not from my point of view. And anyone not stressing their plants properly (if that’s a thing to properly stress a plant); wont benefit from that extra juice.

The key thing is to understand plant biology, how and where is the bulk of hormones… if you play with that you get big results. The bulk of hormones is always at the tip of the highest top.

You know what I mean. I have been stressing my 2 big mommas, plants are there to show.

The drought provides the opportunity for the roots to literally suck the medium dry and once it’s done that, moves on to the plant sucking dry the fan leaves.

Just like Flushing at the end doesn’t do shit for your plant according to some lines of thought feeding a plant 2 days or 2 weeks before harvest won’t get you another OZ of dry bud.

Hope you good my G.

 

[Greenvein]

Makes sense, was listening to a podcast today and they where saying during transition phases they raise their ph by a little to increase nutrient flow thought it was interesting but he also grew in coco not sure if it’s the same on soil

This is more for synthetic nutrients.. some people bring the pH up to get better uptake.. organics the microbes will sort the pH but they have a easier time bringing it down to feed the roots iirc..

@Danishoes21 I have never tried it bro but I think I read somewhere instead of fully flushing it's better to just remove the N and keep the rest fed so no late growth is lost and removing N stops chlorophyll production.. I'll have to look it up again but was interesting what you think?

 

[TwelveCoffee]

I have found by my own experience and experimenting, cannabis loves and reacts to stress.
All thru the lifecycle, I have stressed my plants constantly and they show in the way they grow and the pheno traits come up.

The ones I don’t stress don’t look the same.

For me stress is a key factor. Not nutrient stress with a heavy feeding that’s not something I will ever do.
I will do almost everything on the stress list.

High stress training is not super cropping. Not from my point of view. And anyone not stressing their plants properly (if that’s a thing to properly stress a plant); wont benefit from that extra juice.

The key thing is to understand plant biology, how and where is the bulk of hormones… if you play with that you get big results. The bulk of hormones is always at the tip of the highest top.

You know what I mean. I have been stressing my 2 big mommas, plants are there to show.

The drought provides the opportunity for the roots to literally suck the medium dry and once it’s done that, moves on to the plant sucking dry the fan leaves.

Just like Flushing at the end doesn’t do shit for your plant according to some lines of thought feeding a plant 2 days or 2 weeks before harvest won’t get you another OZ of dry bud.

Hope you good my G.

Doing good thanks tired though kid had me up all night. That makes sense I’m starting to get interested in breeding and learning more about stages and stress

This is more for synthetic nutrients.. some people bring the pH up to get better uptake.. organics the microbes will sort the pH but they have a easier time bringing it down to feed the roots iirc..

Ah ok maybe if I ever try coco again I’ll give it a shot

 

[Melville Hobbes]

With out jumping into “bro science”; I think yeah.

The droughting thread is mostly based on a paper published by a researcher named Caplan from the University of Guelph.
He found it increased cannabinoids, but I don't know if he found the mechanism of action. I never read the paper.

 

[CaptainLucky]

I have found by my own experience and experimenting, cannabis loves and reacts to stress.
All thru the lifecycle, I have stressed my plants constantly and they show in the way they grow and the pheno traits come up.

The ones I don’t stress don’t look the same.

For me stress is a key factor. Not nutrient stress with a heavy feeding that’s not something I will ever do.
I will do almost everything on the stress list.

High stress training is not super cropping. Not from my point of view. And anyone not stressing their plants properly (if that’s a thing to properly stress a plant); wont benefit from that extra juice.

The key thing is to understand plant biology, how and where is the bulk of hormones… if you play with that you get big results. The bulk of hormones is always at the tip of the highest top.

You know what I mean. I have been stressing my 2 big mommas, plants are there to show.

The drought provides the opportunity for the roots to literally suck the medium dry and once it’s done that, moves on to the plant sucking dry the fan leaves.

Just like Flushing at the end doesn’t do shit for your plant according to some lines of thought feeding a plant 2 days or 2 weeks before harvest won’t get you another OZ of dry bud.

Hope you good my G.

@Krissi Carbone has a thread on draughting. And @Emilya Green also talked about the benefits of it. Very interesting reading and in the Krissi post it showed how the trichomes took on a bigger kind of deformed mushroom appearance. CL.

 

[Danishoes21]

This is more for synthetic nutrients.. some people bring the pH up to get better uptake.. organics the microbes will sort the pH but they have a easier time bringing it down to feed the roots iirc..

@Danishoes21 I have never tried it bro but I think I read somewhere instead of fully flushing it's better to just remove the N and keep the rest fed so no late growth is lost and removing N stops chlorophyll production.. I'll have to look it up again but was interesting what you think?

I still believe a well balanced feed schedule can be done all thru the lifecycle of the plant. My misconception with any feed schedule is; and that’s on any ground (synthetic, liquid, organics).

Why keep a same amount of N % when the plant clearly rejects it (by show of N toxicity on the leaf) mid flowering later again in late flower?

If the plant stops producing big Fan leaf when it switch’s the hormones, and we all know that we feed Nitrogen for foliage… we are growing a flower, not leaf’s… unless someone tells me the bud is asking for Nitrogen to grow… why use it? Buds don’t need the same amount of Nitrogen as foliage does.
If we treat the bud like a fruit/flower we should be focusing in P-K and flavonoids or sweeteners… micro elements. It’s an entire different set of phytohormone calling the shots for fruit/flower development.

This brings me to feeding, if we use a formula X with a N-P-K of 20-10-10 from the start to finish you still provide too much Nitrogen at the end of the lifespan; big chance that plant ends up burning.
If you start 20-10-10 all thru veg and bomb the plant big chance it will be ok slight tip burn every now and then… then preflowering starts and you introduce a new formula 5-20-20 (just an example) then you clearly lowered N and upped PK, less likely very less likely to burn your fan leaves or even burn buds… I seen burnt bids from N toxicity. It’s not a deficiency if you keep adding feed and leaf just gets more and more yellow.

Just my take on nitrogen… I have in fact burn plants if I keep adding high nitrogen on my foliar and root drench. That’s why I found seaweed to be the perfect balance, very small amounts of everything. I would never use a chicken manure compost (very high nitrogen) tea mid flower.

What’s your thoughts on feeding schedules?

 

[Danishoes21]

The droughting thread is mostly based on a paper published by a researcher named Caplan from the University of Guelph.
He found it increased cannabinoids, but I don't know if he found the mechanism of action. I never read the paper.

I’m sold on drought, even before the thread started.

I do drought several times during the entire Grow. I back this up hundred percent

 

[Danishoes21]

PERSONAL SATIVA
X DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

Absolutely gorgeous pheno, can’t stop saying it. Blows my mind. I will let the pictures do the talking.

Canopy is at 4ftx4ftx2ft

 

[Danishoes21]

DUCTH DURBAN
X DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

Another beauty. They just love that 9pm sunset. Soaking up all that energy. The angle of the light is changing I started noticing the shadows show earlier, they are getting less and less light. Any time now this Durban should settle and start building. She has been at the pre flower for some time like a week before July.

I’m really excited about these 2 genetics.
Got lots of seeds of these 2.

 

[Greenvein]

I still believe a well balanced feed schedule can be done all thru the lifecycle of the plant. My misconception with any feed schedule is; and that’s on any ground (synthetic, liquid, organics).

Why keep a same amount of N % when the plant clearly rejects it (by show of N toxicity on the leaf) mid flowering later again in late flower?

If the plant stops producing big Fan leaf when it switch’s the hormones, and we all know that we feed Nitrogen for foliage… we are growing a flower, not leaf’s… unless someone tells me the bud is asking for Nitrogen to grow… why use it? Buds don’t need the same amount of Nitrogen as foliage does.
If we treat the bud like a fruit/flower we should be focusing in P-K and flavonoids or sweeteners… micro elements. It’s an entire different set of phytohormone calling the shots for fruit/flower development.

This brings me to feeding, if we use a formula X with a N-P-K of 20-10-10 from the start to finish you still provide too much Nitrogen at the end of the lifespan; big chance that plant ends up burning.
If you start 20-10-10 all thru veg and bomb the plant big chance it will be ok slight tip burn every now and then… then preflowering starts and you introduce a new formula 5-20-20 (just an example) then you clearly lowered N and upped PK, less likely very less likely to burn your fan leaves or even burn buds… I seen burnt bids from N toxicity. It’s not a deficiency if you keep adding feed and leaf just gets more and more yellow.

Just my take on nitrogen… I have in fact burn plants if I keep adding high nitrogen on my foliar and root drench. That’s why I found seaweed to be the perfect balance, very small amounts of everything. I would never use a chicken manure compost (very high nitrogen) tea mid flower.

What’s your thoughts on feeding schedules?

I 100% agree with you bro I believe ratios are they key to killer weed or kill your weed all the brands of plant food out there you can see all the different ratios they offer. They all will get you from seed to harvest no problems because everything is there but a crap ratio can be detreemental to terpene profile, bud size & density. I think that's all standard it was just what I mentioned about drouting... I have always flushed myself but I think at some point I want to explore this theory. I usually only run one strain per tent so I can do my standard flush at the end on a few then trying to continue p&k feed on the others..

Anyways gardens looking sweet bro looking forward to seeing how much they stretch

 

[Krissi Carbone]

I’m sold on drought, even before the thread started.

I do drought several times during the entire Grow. I back this up hundred percent

Hi Dani! You the bomb digs! I want to catch up here as well so just know you're on my list. I'll get to your journal, promise! Probably have to jump around to get caught up in a timely manner but I'm going to try!

 

[CaptainLucky]

PERSONAL SATIVA
X DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

Absolutely gorgeous pheno, can’t stop saying it. Blows my mind. I will let the pictures do the talking.

Canopy is at 4ftx4ftx2ft

That’s crazy big brother you really know how to train some plants . CL.

 

[Danishoes21]

Hi Dani! You the bomb digs! I want to catch up here as well so just know you're on my list. I'll get to your journal, promise! Probably have to jump around to get caught up in a timely manner but I'm going to try!

All good KC
,
Take your time it’s a long journal. I would skip veg lol fast forward to bud and flowers.

Glad you have time to lurk around. There is that Durban to check out. I think we both might have gotten the Indica “looking” Durban pheno from Dutch passion, and it’s high high pest resistant plant.