Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[Danishoes21]

Takedown time Yay! Looks great, almost as fun as taking the first pull, NICE

F@ck yeah buddy. I will probably throw a tester on the food dehydrator. I needs to have a smoke of the good summer flower.

I will do a full chop at the base of the plant, hang upside down inside the greenhouse, there is so much heat it will Decarb the plant in no time. Let her dry with all the goat hair and dust from the farm

Hope you good G!

 

[Danishoes21]

Rhino is good stuff but I use it very sparingly 'cause it messes with pH big time
The silicate takes ages to bind in the water so if I do use it, it I prepare it the evening prior, then add nutes etc

Makes sense it would not bind with water that easy. Probably the silica particles are just too darn big/dense to bind with h2o.

Have you tried top soil like you would do with DE?

Good chance that if powdered on the top soil the density of the Silica particles would sink in to the inner layer of soil where the roots might be able to grab..?

Just a thought

I have never used other than horsetail to supply silica.

Which brings me to my next thought.
What about harvesting horsetail, drying it, crushing it and then top soil…?

 

[Danishoes21]

Dani would it be possible to jug your magic cocktails for $$$? Rather give you my money for stuff like that instead of big business

Brother I would send you a litre bottle for free, I’m only afraid it might get seized because of the terrible smell…

I could see the dogs sniff sniff the package and start crying because it’s stinks

Nahh real talk bro, I’ve been thinking of making my tea into powder form… I need a big distiller and/or a commercial size dehydrator so I can evaporate the H2O out of the tea and in theory I should be left with a powder from all the “nutrients sediment”.

Same principle to making Whey protein… evaporate the milk/water and you are left with the Whey protein powder.

I pitched that idea to my wife, to start our own organic “fertilizer” brand… she just said; dude you smoke to much weed….



She is freaking right.

 

[TwelveCoffee]

Brother I would send you a litre bottle for free, I’m only afraid it might get seized because of the terrible smell…

I could see the dogs sniff sniff the package and start crying because it’s stinks

Nahh real talk bro, I’ve been thinking of making my tea into powder form… I need a big distiller and/or a commercial size dehydrator so I can evaporate the H2O out of the tea and in theory I should be left with a powder from all the “nutrients sediment”.

Same principle to making Whey protein… evaporate the milk/water and you are left with the Whey protein powder.

I pitched that idea to my wife, you to start our own organic “fertilizer” brand… she just said; dude you smoke to much weed….



She is freaking right.

Hey that’s fair and your a entrepreneur my friend just finding ways to not only learn and grow but make some of that sweet $$$ on the side just be like babe would you rather me come in smelling like compost or would you rather me set up probably a $10,000 machine and make us rich

 

[Danishoes21]

Hey that’s fair and your a entrepreneur my friend just finding ways to not only learn and grow but make some of that sweet $$$ on the side just be like babe would you rather me come in smelling like compost or would you rather me set up probably a $10,000 machine and make us rich

Bro real shit. I literally smell like liquid compost all the time… I spill it on my shoes, hands, shirts. Use my pants to wipe off my hands… it’s my new scent from Calvin Klein… Morning dumpster dive.


I will read about how to evaporate my tea and make it into powder. If I can do that, it’s packable and marketable. Let’s see how this works… it would be something like what they do with worm castings… the juice from the worm bin is made into powder form.

I’m almost there, I think I can do this… the hardest part was getting the tea right. I think I did that.

 

[CaptainLucky]

I have not (yet) red his books Ed Rosenthal. But I guess he knows what he talking about, heard his name around here several times. Big Horticulture specialist just for that what ever he says resonates with me.

I think Silica is there with Calcium and magnesium, underrated and overlooked secondary nutrients. I wouldn’t even place them as micro elements.

If I could restructure the food chain for cannabis I would put it NPK primary - Cal/Magnesium/Silica secondary. I would think that if we hit these elements, for the lifespan of the plant we would have less chance of problems.

Last year I had a Cal/Mag issue, this year no issues. Don’t even use Neem anymore. But I have up the dose of Horsetail my Silica input. Every month I have harvested a pound of fresh horsetail and added to my liquid compost/green manure/tea.

I have noticed that the brown/dark Color of the horsetail tea, I see it again when I break the stems and the plant sap comes out dark blue or “purple”. I have the intuition that I see it in the stems because that’s where the plant uses the Silica for cell wall repair and cell division. I subdivide every nutrient for every part of the plant it enhances or serves the purpose for.

Nitrogen - foliage and green for photosynthesis

P-K - roots and flower/fruit feed

Cal/Mag/Silica - cell division, stem cells, cell wall repair, over all plant structure and branching. Positive Impact on plant immune system.

I don’t worry about the rest. Boron, sulphur, iron…

I didn’t say anything new, we all know what the plant needs basically but we don’t seem to understand how and when to apply these nutrients. I found foliar feeding is the most fast and by far most effective way to force feed any nutrient. The stomata is the mouth of the foliage, if properly used the plant take in seconds what ever you feed them.

I know indoors in a tent we can’t foliar because of the RH, equipment can’t get wet… and what ever other reason. But I would highly suggest to foliar right before lights on, the stomata will be open and ready, they start to close at high temperatures and low RH, to preserve liquid inside the plant.

I was reminded last year about the importance of Silica several times, now it’s there with me every time. It’s so abundant horsetail.

How do you supply Silica to your medium? And what’s the dose?

I’m not currently adding anything but whatever is in the PB but I plan on it in the near future. CL

 

[Danishoes21]

I’m not currently adding anything but whatever is in the PB but I plan on it in the near future. CL

Bro would you mind posting a photo of the PB nutrient sheet on the label? Just for reference.

If you can, if not I think I might be able to find it online.

Appreciate that Cap.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Bro would you mind posting a photo of the PB nutrient sheet on the label? Just for reference.

If you can, if not I think I might be able to find it online.

Appreciate that Cap.

I got you just give me a minute. CL

 

[CaptainLucky]

Not the best pictures but here it is. CL

 

[Danishoes21]

Not the best pictures but here it is. CL

Appreciate that Cap, I just wanted to read what’s in there to have an idea I guess I will have to do more research into each of their formulas, they don’t say how they source it.

But I can see each bottle has a specific nutrient they target, and for each nutrient there is a suggested measurement.

makes me wonder if this is like the horoscope… ??? You know what I mean. Impossible that for every single person/plant the same formula/horoscope reading applies perfectly….

Not all plants eat the same at a specific time. One formula can’t satisfy all the plants. I guess it’s a good starting point but have you tried making up your own measurements and ratios?

Like adding Cal/mag even if the prescription doesn’t tell you too?

Just brainstorming here

 

[CaptainLucky]

Appreciate that Cap, I just wanted to read what’s in there to have an idea I guess I will have to do more research into each of their formulas, they don’t say how they source it.

But I can see each bottle has a specific nutrient they target, and for each nutrient there is a suggested measurement.

makes me wonder if this is like the horoscope… ??? You know what I mean. Impossible that for every single person/plant the same formula/horoscope reading applies perfectly….

Not all plants eat the same at a specific time. One formula can’t satisfy all the plants. I guess it’s a good starting point but have you tried making up your own measurements and ratios?

Like adding Cal/mag even if the prescription doesn’t tell you too?

Just brainstorming here

Yeah since the beginning I have been diluting with water because if I used it straight they would burn. I had them all dialed in until they started flowering heavily. Since then I dropped the N and boosted the P and now it seems to be working. CL.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Hello again....if I may......hope this helps. Also, my review on Prescription Blend is pretty thorough in regards to whats in it and where its sourced. It's in my sig. Here's a text excerpt below the pics

Bio-Si: Mixed first, used in all developmental stages except seedling
A silica complex liquid innoculant with plant derived organic/non-GMO amino acids made from multiple silica sources. Silica sources include rice hulls, but not just any old rice hull. Rice hulls that have been harvested after the plant has naturally accumulated this element from their environment with potassium silicate. Helping to increase stem strength to support heavy flower, it is designed to work with Pre-Cursor as they provide resistance to environmental issues such as heat and water stress. A broad and diverse spectrum of naturally occurring and beneficial microbes pack punches of both Nitrogen and Potassium while increasing cell wall rigidity.

CORE A: Mixed second, used in all developmental stages
Specifically optimized for medical gardens, an amino acid micronutrient complex that encourages cell division and rapid growth. Its cornucopia of cannabis goodness drives enzyme function to store and transport energy. Combining macronutrients Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur, and Magnesium along with a plethora of fully chelated micronutrients, the variety of components naturally supports plants biological signalling in both flower set and root growth. Designed to work with CORE B.

CORE B: Mixed third, used in all developmental stages
A highly absorbable Nitrogen profile that allows plants to orient to capture light while building plant tissues. Nitrogen, Potassium and Calcium combine to provide all macro and micronutrients needed throughout an entire life cycle. Aids in creating building blocks for oils and terpenes. Allows for lush vibrant vegetative stages and increased flower mass.

Big Data: Mixed fourth, used only in flower stage
Changing the NPK ratio, it is a phosphorus and potassium supplement. Used in flowering, it is fully optimized for the needs of fast-growing gardens, (and works exceptionally well with auto-flowers for this very reason). It increases sugar production, aids in flower formation and supports fundamental enzyme function in flowering plants.

Kelpful: Mixed fifth, used in all developmental stages except seedling
Its combination of several varieties from the North Atlantic and Tasmanian islands are some of the world’s most prolific species. They are chock full of organic fulvic acids that support rapid recovery from transplant shock. The kelp is cold pressed to preserve its naturally active plant material components

Pre-Cursor: Mixed last, used in all developmental stages except seedling
A top-of-the-line metabolic booster that feeds root zone microorganisms. It accelerates plants jasmonic acid biological pathway. A Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate supplement that can easily be used as an additional Cal-Mag supplement in and of itself when mixed separately

 

[Danishoes21]

That’s exactly what I was looking for. Time for me to study.



Thanks for sharing.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Hello again....if I may......hope this helps. Also, my review on Prescription Blend is pretty thorough in regards to whats in it and where its sourced. It's in my sig. Here's a text excerpt below the pics

Bio-Si: Mixed first, used in all developmental stages except seedling
A silica complex liquid innoculant with plant derived organic/non-GMO amino acids made from multiple silica sources. Silica sources include rice hulls, but not just any old rice hull. Rice hulls that have been harvested after the plant has naturally accumulated this element from their environment with potassium silicate. Helping to increase stem strength to support heavy flower, it is designed to work with Pre-Cursor as they provide resistance to environmental issues such as heat and water stress. A broad and diverse spectrum of naturally occurring and beneficial microbes pack punches of both Nitrogen and Potassium while increasing cell wall rigidity.

CORE A: Mixed second, used in all developmental stages
Specifically optimized for medical gardens, an amino acid micronutrient complex that encourages cell division and rapid growth. Its cornucopia of cannabis goodness drives enzyme function to store and transport energy. Combining macronutrients Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur, and Magnesium along with a plethora of fully chelated micronutrients, the variety of components naturally supports plants biological signalling in both flower set and root growth. Designed to work with CORE B.

CORE B: Mixed third, used in all developmental stages
A highly absorbable Nitrogen profile that allows plants to orient to capture light while building plant tissues. Nitrogen, Potassium and Calcium combine to provide all macro and micronutrients needed throughout an entire life cycle. Aids in creating building blocks for oils and terpenes. Allows for lush vibrant vegetative stages and increased flower mass.

Big Data: Mixed fourth, used only in flower stage
Changing the NPK ratio, it is a phosphorus and potassium supplement. Used in flowering, it is fully optimized for the needs of fast-growing gardens, (and works exceptionally well with auto-flowers for this very reason). It increases sugar production, aids in flower formation and supports fundamental enzyme function in flowering plants.

Kelpful: Mixed fifth, used in all developmental stages except seedling
Its combination of several varieties from the North Atlantic and Tasmanian islands are some of the world’s most prolific species. They are chock full of organic fulvic acids that support rapid recovery from transplant shock. The kelp is cold pressed to preserve its naturally active plant material components

Pre-Cursor: Mixed last, used in all developmental stages except seedling
A top-of-the-line metabolic booster that feeds root zone microorganisms. It accelerates plants jasmonic acid biological pathway. A Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate supplement that can easily be used as an additional Cal-Mag supplement in and of itself when mixed separately

Great review btw and I enjoyed it so much as to recommend it to @KeithLemon . CL.

 

[Danishoes21]

Just a couple from the main 2;

Still waiting on that male to save the season.

 

[Danishoes21]

The Mango chop update;

What a great grow this one, after a 10 day intense drought the soil inspection showed over 3/4 of the root system was air pruned as a result of all the air pockets in the soil mix, bone dry soil.
Still living soil with lots of worms, nematodes, insects…

The plant had no way to intake any nutrients and started to self cannibalize. At day 10 of drought I found no more noticeable growth instead I noticed the vacuum of all water source within the plant. I didn’t see signs of wilting of foliage so the plant seems to be surviving on its own reserves. I noticed foliage take a wax like texture and somewhat of a dry feel.
I didn’t get 100% of the plant yellowing so another 2 weeks hanging should finish the job.
Taking in consideration that the plant is still “alive” after chop in the next 48 hrs I should see the foliage just crisp up and die off completely self trimming it self.

It’s a rather small plant for what I am use to but the terpenes and stickiness is very good actually. Tester on the dehydrator.

I will be recycling the soil for the next runner up. Malawi Haze gets the new plot of land.

That’s all for this Auto. Would I do it again? Heck yeah! Just for fun and smoking early in the season.

 

[KeithLemon]

Great review btw and I enjoyed it so much as to recommend it to @KeithLemon . CL.

Yes you did thanks Capt. and Krissi.

 

[con]

The Mango chop update;

What a great grow this one, after a 10 day intense drought the soil inspection showed over 3/4 of the root system was air pruned as a result of all the air pockets in the soil mix, bone dry soil.
Still living soil with lots of worms, nematodes, insects…

The plant had no way to intake any nutrients and started to self cannibalize. At day 10 of drought I found no more noticeable growth instead I noticed the vacuum of all water source within the plant. I didn’t see signs of wilting of foliage so the plant seems to be surviving on its own reserves. I noticed foliage take a wax like texture and somewhat of a dry feel.
I didn’t get 100% of the plant yellowing so another 2 weeks hanging should finish the job.
Taking in consideration that the plant is still “alive” after chop in the next 48 hrs I should see the foliage just crisp up and die off completely self trimming it self.

It’s a rather small plant for what I am use to but the terpenes and stickiness is very good actually. Tester on the dehydrator.

I will be recycling the soil for the next runner up. Malawi Haze gets the new plot of land.

That’s all for this Auto. Would I do it again? Heck yeah! Just for fun and smoking early in the season.

Congrats again , interesting drying technique any benefit to it or just easier trim job in the end ?

 

[Danishoes21]

Congrats again , interesting drying technique any benefit to it or just easier trim job in the end ?

It’s all school drying method. Chop the whole plant hang upside down, with good air flow.
The more modern approach would be to section chop. Get the AAA tops first and leave 3/4 of the plant to continue ripening, then take her down completely. I will be doing that with the bigger plants.

The intense heat here is gonna Decarb the plant slowly, that’s why I leave it outside for now. After a couple days I will check to the stems if they are dry and break with the hand I can then chop buds, do a final trim and groom to buds and them jar.

Jamaicans chop their gear and put it in drying sheds then just black bag the entire branches with buds… so many different ways to dry and decarb/cure cannabis.

 

[TwelveCoffee]

The Mango chop update;

What a great grow this one, after a 10 day intense drought the soil inspection showed over 3/4 of the root system was air pruned as a result of all the air pockets in the soil mix, bone dry soil.
Still living soil with lots of worms, nematodes, insects…

The plant had no way to intake any nutrients and started to self cannibalize. At day 10 of drought I found no more noticeable growth instead I noticed the vacuum of all water source within the plant. I didn’t see signs of wilting of foliage so the plant seems to be surviving on its own reserves. I noticed foliage take a wax like texture and somewhat of a dry feel.
I didn’t get 100% of the plant yellowing so another 2 weeks hanging should finish the job.
Taking in consideration that the plant is still “alive” after chop in the next 48 hrs I should see the foliage just crisp up and die off completely self trimming it self.

It’s a rather small plant for what I am use to but the terpenes and stickiness is very good actually. Tester on the dehydrator.

I will be recycling the soil for the next runner up. Malawi Haze gets the new plot of land.

That’s all for this Auto. Would I do it again? Heck yeah! Just for fun and smoking early in the season.

Fuck ya bro I hope it smokes a amazing and fills you with amazing auto goodness haha I’m so pumped for ya!