Thirvnrob's Power Plant - TLO Soil In SIP Containers

Thirvnrob said:
I flipped the lights tonight, which brings to mind a discussion/debate about how to count flowering days. For instance, the supplier I got these seeds from claims 8 weeks to flower. 56 days if my arithmetic is correct. Is that 56 days from today or 56 days after transition? Some of us count it one way, some of us, count it the other. I have no expectation about changing anyone’s mind about the way they count their flowering days. I just want to gather some data for myself. Personally, I don’t count transition as flowering - they’re not going to start throwing out pistils tomorrow. I agree with @Emilya Green that flipping the lights merely signals the plant that it’s time to start that process - to transition. I count the first day I see pistils as day one of flower. I love that technicality. Of course, at the end of the day, it’s the trichomes that tell us when they’re ready. What’s your take?
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NIce flip! I use the day after flip as day one. Since I'm the only one doing the math it only matters that I have a place to start is my thinking.
 
I go from pistils. That typically adds an extra week to ten days to the flip count and helps me be more patient before harvest
 
They are 1-1/2” taller today. I imagine the water consumption is about to greatly increase. The canopy looks fairly even but the one in the middle is a little shorter. I don’t think she’s getting her share of light with the way I have them arranged. I gotta build a trellis…
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For what it's worth, if you rotate the lights 90º you will double the bars in the middle.
 
InTheShed said:
For what it's worth, if you rotate the lights 90º you will double the bars in the middle.
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I've looked & pondered, looked & pondered about how to situate these lights & never considered or noticed that obvious option. Sometimes I can't see the forest for the trees...
Thanks Shed!
 
One of the first things i read about the switch from growing synthetically to growing organically is that learning to be hands off is the hardest thing to do. As a newbie to LOS, I have to say I totally agree. These are the most lush, beautiful , green, happy, healthy girls I've ever grown & I'm just dying to intervene. I need to add something, don't I? The concept of LOS is to provide everything the plant needs & allow it to pick & choose what it needs/wants - kind of like a buffet. Other than a couple top dressings, it's water only throughout the grow (with a few exceptions). The simplicity of it is what attracted me to LOS, but I am finding it difficult to stay out of the way. These girls aren't asking for anything, yet I still want to feed them. I guess this is like a motherly instinct, although I'm a man & a devilishly handsome one at that (sorry ladies, no pics available).
Getting out of the way & staying out of the way will be both challenging, and enlightening...
 
Thirvnrob said:
One of the first things i read about the switch from growing synthetically to growing organically is that learning to be hands off is the hardest thing to do. As a newbie to LOS, I have to say I totally agree. These are the most lush, beautiful , green, happy, healthy girls I've ever grown & I'm just dying to intervene. I need to add something, don't I? The concept of LOS is to provide everything the plant needs & allow it to pick & choose what it needs/wants - kind of like a buffet. Other than a couple top dressings, it's water only throughout the grow (with a few exceptions). The simplicity of it is what attracted me to LOS, but I am finding it difficult to stay out of the way. These girls aren't asking for anything, yet I still want to feed them. I guess this is like a motherly instinct, although I'm a man & a devilishly handsome one at that (sorry ladies, no pics available).
Getting out of the way & staying out of the way will be both challenging, and enlightening...
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If you want to "give" them a treat, id recommend a compost extract. Super easy. Basically take a handfull of compost, put it in something like a panty hose, old hash bag.....anything to filter out the large particles. Set out some water for 24hrs, like 5 gallons. Then take your compost and steep it like a tea bag. You can even use an old sock. Steep for about a minute. Then gently squeeze remaining water out of your "tea bag", and just water in. The idea is the agitation knocks a bumch of the micrones loose from the soil, and you water them into your soil. Gives it a nice little boost, and no worries to mess up your soil. Just benefits. Not as worrysome as some of these teas. A kelp foliar would make em happy too.
 
One of the girls leaves are still clawing. She got off to a slow start to begin with & is the only one to have shown any signs of struggle. She did perk up immediately after being moved into the SIP container but I think she hasn’t quite adapted yet. Here are a couple pics…
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Can’t decide if these are normal…
 
InTheShed said:
For what it's worth, if you rotate the lights 90º you will double the bars in the middle.
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Alas, it will have to wait till this grow is complete. Doing it now will create a mess, but I’m gonna do that next grow. Thanks for that observation…
 
I was thinking I might have to build a trellis or a scrog net, but these girls are quite hearty. The stalks & main stems are strong & sturdy. I expect I'll have to do some staking, but maybe not & definitely not to the extent I expected to...
 
Buds grows some monsters in his SIP and I don't think he even ties his up!
 
Here's another topic often debated in this forum. Whether to defoliate, if so when & if not, why not? I remember reading something about that, but I don't remember any of it. If memory serves me @Bill284 is not a fan of defoliation. Correct me if I'm wrong. @Emilya Green Has a link to a tutorial wherein she discusses how & why she defoilates. Knowing that these two can participate in civil debate, I've elected to put them both on the spot. Let's get it on!!!
All comments are welcome...
 
Thirvnrob said:
All civil comments are welcome...
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LOL!

That's a completely personal preference, though I think everyone will agree you remove the lower leaf if two are laying on top of each other and it's wet.
 
InTheShed said:
LOL!

That's a completely personal preference, though I think everyone will agree you remove the lower leaf if two are laying on top of each other and it's wet.
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That's exactly what prompted me to pose the question. A couple leaves had wet spots on them...
 
Thirvnrob said:
That's exactly what prompted me to pose the question. A couple leaves had wet spots on them...
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They're all bushy, but one is off the chain. I broke a main stem early on, and she exploded with new growth - she's the one showing what look to be drops of water on some of the leaves. I think I'm gonna start breaking stems more often. They always seem to overcompensate after being traumatized. I fell face first into one of my tents & broke both main stems on a Durban poison. That plant yielded 14 zips & I was flying by the seat of my pants at the time. That was & still is my biggest yield from one plant...
 
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Thirvnrob said:
They're all bushy, but one is off the chain. I broke a main stem early on, and she exploded with new growth - she's the one showing what look to be drops of water on some of the leaves. I think I'm gonna start breaking stems more often. They always seem to overcompensate after being traumatized. I fell face first into one of my tents & broke both main stems on a Durban poison. That plant yielded 14 zips & I was flying by the seat of my pants at the time. That was & still is my biggest yield from one plant...
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I wonder if this is a similar result that occurs from super cropping. When I broke those stems, I was able to prop one of them up & hold it together with duct tape - the other one was snapped off & couldn't be saved. Guess which one thrived? Bushiest mess I've ever seen till now.
 
When you supercrop a branch, every lower node on that branch becomes a top, so that would definitely explain the bushiness!

If you check out the pics in the opening post here you can see how that happens:

Hows & Whys Of Supercropping

Anyone interested in a bit on supercropping? Here is my introduction to the technique. I don't deal so much on the actual way to perform a supercrop, but the reasons and places to do it: DISCLAIMER: This is high stress plant training and I do not recommend it for an autoflower plant. Not that...
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Thirvnrob said:
I fell face first into one of my tents & broke both main stems on a Durban poison. That plant yielded 14 zips & I was flying by the seat of my pants at the time. That was & still is my biggest yield from one plant...
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We call that the @Grand Daddy Black training method, though I think he prefers to back in. No matter, same end result. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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