Thirvnrob's Multi Strain Seed Drawer Clean Out

InTheShed said:
Looking good in there, but I don't believe that doing LST on the two lowest nodes will increase your yields.

LST on an uptopped plant involves slowly bending it over so the top is lower than the rest of the nodes, causing the plant to put growth hormones into the lower nodes to get a new apical branch. On a topped plant it would involve keeping the top nodes flat (again tricking the plant into moving the auxins to lower branches) while the lower nodes catch up.

I did a write-up on it here on the type without topping if you wanted to take a look:
InTheShed

Thread 'How I perform low stress training on my plants: Lots of pics!'

Greetings all! I've had members ask about how I do my LST (low stress training) on my plants so I thought I would do a pictorial on it. My pics are of two different plants but don't let that confuse you. It's just easier to demonstrate that way.

Let's discuss the theory behind LST for a minute. Cannabis plants grow up to the sun. They have a top (apical) cola and side branching. Most of the growth hormones (auxins) go to that apical cola, which is why an untrained plant often has a beautiful huge bud on top and then progressively smaller buds as you head toward the soil. Topping a...
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The topping and training method is the type I use on all of my photoperiod plants now.
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I should’ve said I’d remove the first two nodes…
 
First up is Pure Kush. She’s a bushy girl for sure. She’s taken well to training, but oops…I was tweaking her tie downs just a bit. My fingers aren’t nimble enough anymore to tape it together so a clothes pin will have to do.
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Reconfigured my light again - removed 2 bars & I like the space much better now. 800 watts should be plenty light! Added a rug to provide a tiny bit of barrier between the buckets & the cold concrete floor. Hopefully tomorrow I can muster the gumption to get the rest of the room in order…
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Thirvnrob said:
She’s taken well to training, but oops…I was tweaking her tie downs just a bit. My fingers aren’t nimble enough anymore to tape it together so a clothes pin will have to do.
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Next time try leaving a decent stump above the node as that can help keep it from splitting.
 
The space is looking awesomely ready for you Rob!
 
I'm digging the clothes pin idea and the plants are looking good. Grow room looks in good shape to me!
 
Thanks Stone! It's the other side that was cluttered - always is after a big trim job! It's coming together now though, slowly but surely.


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Shed, I've used the clothespin trick before & it worked well. I got the idea of doing stuff like that from your LST tutorial a couple years ago. This wasn't part of that tutorial, but I got the idea there. First LST for the power plant.

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I put The Sour D clone under the big light. I'm worried about her well being. Once she rooted, I put her in FFOF with the intention of taking some clones from her & flowering her later on. I forgot to feed her (everything else is in LOS) & Although she's had a flowering tea & two top dressings, her buds just aren't fattening up like I expected & the color has been fading from her leaves for several days now. Rather than grovel about the mistakes I made, I'd rather spell out where she stands at the moment & ask whether anything can or should be done.

Today is day 42 post flip.
PPFD is 680-ish
I top dressed her Friday with Gaia 2-8-4
I've been top watering once weekly with calmag & she gets Mammoth p at every watering
Maybe a tea made with EWC? Dolo water?
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This is how I have my grow area set up. Some of you know I don’t get along with tents & now the rest of you do too. I’ve fallen face first into a tent one time too many. I’m clumsy by nature & stiff because I’m old & lazy, so I use screens I can move around for easy access. Now I just need to learn how to grow weed:bongrip:

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Thirvnrob said:
I put The Sour D clone under the big light. I'm worried about her well being. Once she rooted, I put her in FFOF with the intention of taking some clones from her & flowering her later on. I forgot to feed her (everything else is in LOS) & Although she's had a flowering tea & two top dressings, her buds just aren't fattening up like I expected & the color has been fading from her leaves for several days now. Rather than grovel about the mistakes I made, I'd rather spell out where she stands at the moment & ask whether anything can or should be done.

Today is day 42 post flip.
PPFD is 680-ish
I top dressed her Friday with Gaia 2-8-4
I've been top watering once weekly with calmag & she gets Mammoth p at every watering
Maybe a tea made with EWC? Dolo water?
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I can't comment on whether a tea or some castings would help, but unless you're willing to feed her synthetic nutes I think all you can really do is wait for the top dressing to take effect.
 
Melville Hobbes said:
I can't comment on whether a tea or some castings would help, but unless you're willing to feed her synthetic nutes I think all you can really do is wait for the top dressing to take effect.
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I was considering synthetics since it’s not in LOS. I guess great minds think alike…
 
Ehh it takes me at least 2 weeks to see a boost after top dressings. Possibly longer if the microbes aren't fully populated to help breakdown the Gaia. Which is another reason I started feeding weekly with Gaia.

I figure with the teas though you should be seeing some more immediate results. Something seems to be locked out.

Maybe @Gee64 can give some tips. I know he has talked about using the 284 in a tea but I can't remember the ratio.
 
g-one-three said:
Ehh it takes me at least 2 weeks to see a boost after top dressings. Possibly longer if the microbes aren't fully populated to help breakdown the Gaia. Which is another reason I started feeding weekly with Gaia.

I figure with the teas though you should be seeing some more immediate results. Something seems to be locked out.

Maybe @Gee64 can give some tips. I know he has talked about using the 284 in a tea but I can't remember the ratio.
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How wet is her soil? She looks very overwatered.
 
Gee64 said:
It can't hurt. Do you have a soil moisture probe? I would let her dry down and switch to top watering for a couple weeks and see if she greens up. How is your brix/calcium line?
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I haven’t brixed her. I’ll be proactive & do that this afternoon.
 
Gee64 said:
It can't hurt. Do you have a soil moisture probe? I would let her dry down and switch to top watering for a couple weeks and see if she greens up. How is your brix/calcium line?
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Brix is at 15 with a pretty well defined line - very slightly fuzzy…
 
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