The Quadsquad Thread: A Community For Quadlining

[Azimuth]

It just looks awful easy and much more efficient than LST.

It is pretty easy, but LST is the second step after topping as you'll tie, weight, or otherwise restrain the 4 branches in the direction you want them going.

So, you're not getting away from LST!

 

[Thirvnrob]

Not that I’m a pro but, I top above the 4th and remove the lower 2 on the same day.
I give em a couple days and up pot to my sip.
A few days later they explode with growth.
@Azimuth wont steer ya wrong!

Beauties!

 

[Granny420]

It is pretty easy, but LST is the second step after topping as you'll tie, weight, or otherwise restrain the 4 branches in the direction you want them going.

So, you're not getting away from LST!

No, I won’t!

 

[Granny420]

Hey all!

I’m going to try to add a link to my post of beginning quad today. I yanked that bandaid off!

Granny420 begins quad here.

I think I maybe already began wrong tho, but it’s too late now! I removed the bottom 2 sets of true leaf nodes AND the single leaf node. I possibly misunderstood what is considered the first node?

Anyhoo… I have a start! I’d sure like to know if I didn’t it wrong tho because I have other plants still to do. And thank you so much. I’m grateful.

 

[scottreid1966]

Not that I’m a pro but, I top above the 4th and remove the lower 2 on the same day.
I give em a couple days and up pot to my sip.
A few days later they explode with growth.
@Azimuth wont steer ya wrong!

Azi knows his shit, without a doubt. I was under the impression that doing both at the same time over stresses her.

I cut the lower two then wait untill the stem over the forth grows an inch, especially for outdoor grows. You need that extra lenght for growth. Otherwise they may split under outward pressure.

Cheers!


Canopy looks great!
Did over stressing it help the inner branches to flourish?

 

[Azimuth]

Hey all!

I’m going to try to add a link to my post of beginning quad today. I yanked that bandaid off!

Granny420 begins quad here.

I think I maybe already began wrong tho, but it’s too late now! I removed the bottom 2 sets of true leaf nodes AND the single leaf node. I possibly misunderstood what is considered the first node?

Anyhoo… I have a start! I’d sure like to know if I didn’t it wrong tho because I have other plants still to do. And thank you so much. I’m grateful.

Looks good Granny.

We don't count the seed leaves (coty's), and then the first set of leaves is only one finger and at least one side of that node will produce small buds, so that set goes.

The next set will have three fingered leaves and that one goes as well.

That gets us to node three as the first with 5 fingered leaves and that one and the one above are kept, with each node producing two opposite branches. Keeping those two nodes gives us the 4 branches that make up the quad.

You did good.

 

[Granny420]

Looks good Granny.

We don't count the seed leaves (coty's), and then the first set of leaves is only one finger and at least one side of that node will produce small buds, so that one goes.

The next set will have three fingered leaves and that one goes as well.

That gets us to node three as the first with 5 fingered leaves and that one and the one above are kept, with each node producing two opposite branches. Keeping those two nodes gives us the 4 branches that make up the quad.

You did good.

Azimuth!

Thank you so much. I did take one too many nodes. I removed the single leaf node with growth (above the cotys) plus two more nodes above that. So I was counting nodes wrong.

Only way to learn is doing. I learned here! I will still have the X that begins the quad and I will get it right on the next plants.

Thank you!

 

[Stonecrusher]

Not that I’m a pro but, I top above the 4th and remove the lower 2 on the same day.
I give em a couple days and up pot to my sip.
A few days later they explode with growth.
@Azimuth wont steer ya wrong!

Looking pretty PRO to me!

 

[Azimuth]

Azimuth!

Thank you so much. I did take one too many nodes. I removed the single leaf node with growth (above the cotys) plus two more nodes above that. So I was counting nodes wrong.

Only way to learn is doing. I learned here! I will still have the X that begins the quad and I will get it right on the next plants.

Thank you!

Emilya had the following to say about topping at various nodes...

each node's cut acts a little differently. Cutting between 4-5 give you 2 main colas and slows down the plant a little bit before it goes into maturity (alternating nodes or pistils in an Auto). The 4-5 cut give you plenty of time for nodes 1-3 to rise up to the canopy, giving you 6 additional colas going into bloom.

The 5-6 cut is right at the point of the plant becoming mature. The cut does not stop it, and you get 2 main colas, but not as much side growth will rise up to the top. This cut tends to create a taller and less producing plant than the 4-5 cut.

The 3-4 cut is very special in that it confuses the plant. This cut acts like a FIM and takes the longest to resolve. The plant will usually stall out while it thinks about what to do about this cut, and you can get anywhere from 2-5 colas from this single cut. Depending on how this cut resolves, the plant can take on several odd shapes, but it can end up being a big producer. I don't like the uncertainty about this cut.

The 2-3 cut is commonly called Uncle Ben's method, It usually involves waiting until the 5th node is rising, and then the gardener makes this drastic cut at 2-3. Because of waiting and the several large fan leaves that have developed, even with this cut the plant still has enough energy to develop quickly, and you always end up with 4 main colas as a result of this cut. This is the most common way to start a quad or mainline training and will result in a short, high producing plant.

 

[Granny420]

Emilya had the following to say about topping at various nodes...

That was super info! Unluckily, I did a 5-6, thinking it was the 4-5. My luck! But I’m gonna see what kind of lemonade I can make from it anyway! And I learned. Thank you for that info!

 

[ChronicKid007]

Don’t know what that is. But also, I just fucking broke one of the bottom limbs clean off. So now I have a… tri-line?

Fml.

I hacked this plant and started over. Here is the end result (almost ready to chop)

 

[ThirdUncle]

Thanks @Azimuth for the informative Info, from Emilya ,, i'm planing on doing a mainline this time round,,

 

[Azimuth]

Cool. That's a @Gee64 favorite.

 

[Azimuth]

Thanks @Azimuth for the informative Info, from Emilya ,, i'm planing on doing a mainline this time round,,

From earlier in the thread...

Are mainlining, manifolding and fluxing the same thing, just some call them different names for essentially the same thing? Or are there material differences?

Ok. Did a bit of reading and answered my own question.

Seems like Mainlining was first, started by a grower named Nugbuckets. His technique was to top the plant producing two opposite branches. Then he topped those two to produce four, and topped the four to produce eight colas. Each cola is the same distance from the roots in this method.

Then, a grower named Nebula Haze took that idea and eliminated the additional toppings and just let the original two branches grow and used the side branching to make up her eight branches, claiming to have saved a bit of veg time in the process with no loss of yield. This was termed "Manifolding."

Then @Light Addict came up with his more elaborate, and time consuming, training more along the lines of the second version, but focuses more on creating many, many more tops than the eight found in either of the two prior versions, with a bit of weaving of stems along the way. LA calls this technique "Fluxing".

And from there we now have @Asesino85 's quadlining version which tops but leaves four branches to grow instead of two, shortening veg time even further and producing a very symmetrical plant.

I think I have my history right but am happy to be corrected if anything is not accurate or complete.

 

[Granny420]

Azimuth for that history info!

I just love 420Magazine! There is such a wealth of information! I did a better job on my first Blueberry cheese today. I corrected my error from yesterday.
Granny 420 Gets Step One Quad Right!
Hope everyone is having a super Sunday!

 

[Granny420]

I hacked this plant and started over. Here is the end result (almost ready to chop)

Beautifully back in control!

 

[ThirdUncle]

@Azimuth ,, thanks ,,your a wealth of info

 

[RonT]

Here is my first quadline plant. Growing in coco and curious what size fabric pot do you recommend?

TIA

 

[Azimuth]

Here is my first quadline plant. Growing in coco and curious what size fabric pot do you recommend?

TIA

@Bill284 is who I'd ask about growing in coco.


Nice looking plant. I like to leave more of a stump when I top to help minimize chances of splitting later on.

 

[Chuckeye]

A good start, day 29

Cheers