The Perpetual Healing Garden - SweetSue's Joyful Return

[SweetSue]

Oh Susan...btw , Marilyn was over last night and after reading it myself she sat down and read for about half, hour....Cajoncelt, (spelling). Was very informative and gave Marilyn a better idea of what it's all about ...me too! He is very knowledgable in that area for sure. I can't spell , worth a shit!! Sorry eh! Anyhow , it was important that she realize there's more to it than just puffing some MJ once a day or eating a muffin...ya know. I learned so much just from that 1/2 hr. read ...it was scary. Cheers Sue.

I'm glad you found Cajun. We all seem to have dropped the "celt" part of his user name when we talk to him or about him. I'll have to ask him if he minds that.

Anyway, when you have questions he's the man to seek out. I watch over that thread as well, so you find me there anytime someone shows up. He's a wealth of knowledge. Don't be intimidated, he's human just like us. Cancer tried really hard to kill him and CCO helped him drive it away. That threat was a tremendous motivator for study. I like his warrior mentality. It dovetails nicely with my nurturing maternal approach. It seems to be working on the thread.

Sue have you ever done side by side comparison with your brownies made with coconut oil and made with the olive oil/Lecithin? That would be an interesting experiment. It would be hard to get a base line unless you were using bud with the exact same amount of thc/cbd. But I would be interested to see the results.

Doing a side by side would be tricky, but comparing different batches shouldn't be a problem. I'll try that Noob. The ones I'll be baking later today will be with the olive oil/lecithin. I'll do the next batch with coconut oil/lecithin, using Tikal again. The trick will be the documentation. I have to stay focused enough to write it down.

Right back atcha there SS Those fine folks are friends of ours. They play all around the east coast and the rest of the country too but are from upstate NY and have a lot of friends in P-burgh as well and CO and the PNW ... DTB is coming to our town this Thursday so we are going dancing! woohoo Love our tribe we will all be singing and dancing! Yea u Right!

You girl are killing it green and purple all the way! I'm loving all your healthy ladies!

Sorry for the catchup...

Thank you BB. This is where I'd have a curtsy emoticon. Lol!

 

[SweetSue]

BROWNIES:Step Three - Making the brownies

The oil mix is removed from refrigeration and stirred throughly.

Add the boxed mix, 2 organic eggs, a splash of hemp seed oil and a splash of water. I never measure the extra oil or water. At 62 cooking's come instinctive enough I don't need to bother being that precise. I like the fact that the hemp oil adds more cannabinoids to the mix, albeit none that are known to be psychoactive on their own. I have great faith in the entourage effect and the synergy I know is going on here.

Leave nothing behind. If I could have gotten my tongue into the bottom of that bowl I'd have licked it clean. I'm telling you, I licked that tiny spatula, the pie pan, and the bowl and this oil's kicking my butt already. Tingly body rushes coming in waves and that sweet edgy buzz that SweetSue so thoroughly appreciates.

Drizzle the caramel onto the surface, score with a knife and bake for 35 minutes.

They're baking now. I have about 10 minutes left before they're finished, which gives me enough time to quickly shower and start breakfast, so I have something in my stomach a half hour before I eat my dose. I'll have some mango and take some apigenin as the brownies cool to get the receptors primed and get that competitive inhibition going.

Ooooo...... Nice buzz going here. Quite surprising in its effect. Maybe I want to try a half dose of these brownies. I think I found my supercharged method.

The apartment smells fabulous! Brownies in the oven and buds drying in the hall. I'm thinking they're fragrant enough I may hang them in a tent to finish drying and let the filter control the smell. I'm at the end of the block, so to speak, so it's not the concern it'd be for anyone else in the building, but still........

Ahhh..... A bit of normal again. *sigh of deep relief*

 

[kelticBlue]

O purty : - )

 

[Neiko]

The brownies look and sound wonderful!

 

[Amadeus Forzin]

High Sue

 

[SweetSue]

O purty : - )

There you are keltic. You know I do that just for you, don't you?

 

[Christine Green]

You've officially made my mouth water Sue!

I hope you are having a great day today. It's a clear sunny day here, highs in the low 60's.
oh, sorry, I forgot to share.

 

[SweetSue]

High Sue

Yes I am Mr Am4zin. I think I may be one of the most blessed women walking the planet.

The brownies look and sound wonderful!

Good morning neiko. Let's talk about those brownies.

Because I had such a strong effect from simply licking the bowls and utensils, I decided to be cautious about dosing this time. It's about more than Susan getting high now. If I'm onto some way to cut my doses in half I'm all for that. Cajun warned me on more than one occassion that this adaptation to cannabinoid consumption would hit like a freight train, so dosing was critical. I stared with a half dose, intending to wait an hour before taking any more, and listening to my body carefully to catch that subtle moment when the THC hits.

About three minutes in it slammed into me, just like that freight train Cajun'd warned me about. No lie, I actually shifted in physical space, the effect was that pronounced. Unfreaking believable!!! I never expected it to hit that fast and that intensely. Ok, I think we're on to something here. The combination of olive oil - determined by at least study we've been looking over in the study hall to be the most efficient carrier oil for cannabis extractions like CCO - and the liquid sunflower lecithin take this recipe to a new level.

I wrapped each dose in wax paper and packaged them in sets of two. I'm soooooooo buzzed right now, and yet posting and gardening are still easy and enjoyable chores. This is pretty close to what I consider an optimal dose, and I think it shows the Tikal off nicely. I find it a good source of introspection and spiritual depth, unlike any other strain I've tried since joining this community 18 months ago. I'd been searching for a strain that would offer more spiritual depth, and Tikal has a nice feel so far. Interesting. Did I mention I'm pretty high right now?

If I were you, I'd be ordering some liquid sunflower lecithin ASAP and do some playing around with some recipes. Over at the Study Hall we have a recipe for what we call Bio Bombs that incorporate this into capsule form that Cajun tells us is akin to IV in its efficiency in getting maximum cannabinoids into the system. Powerful stuff. Proceed with caution. Be responsible.

I tried to use my best Mom voice there, but I was laughing the whole time because I plan to throw caution to the wind and go in search of cosmic forces. Haha!

Really though, small steps. I have no fear. Lol! Remember cannabis won't kill you, but it can leave you uncomfortable with improper dosing. Only you know your own limits.

It was over a week without. I'm going with the urge to take that second half right now and do a spiritual quest. Hahaha! You guys may lose me for the day. LOL!

I'll be somewhere today, but rest assured, no matter where that is, I'll be safe.

 

[kelticBlue]

There you are keltic. You know I do that just for you, don't you?

I do. .

You might not believe but I can catch a buzz just by looking.



Edit: I might have to drive my Mrs. kelticBlue over to your place, she is one of the few people I know that can handle the likes of IV efficiency. Thanks for the Whoot! now eyes on the hands wheels on the road

 

[Neiko]

Wow Sue, that's good news. I have liquid sunflower lecithin in my shopping cart at the jungle store now. How many milligrams of oil in pill form with the bio bomb recipe would you suggest starting with? I don't want to send an unsuspecting person to the moon. I tried some of my ac/dc x querkle oil about 7 this morning and I guess a little goes a long way. I took about a grain size dose maybe a touch bigger and it wiped me out. I'm still feeling it 6 plus hours later. It's really nice though! I like the idea of pills a lot. So you think olive oil over coconut oil? What about MCT oil?

Tikal for me in high doses is quite a trippy ride, it is one of my favorites. It makes mundane chores quite fun for me too. It is one of those strains I love to listen to music on. I hear things I've never noticed before on songs I thought I knew inside and out. I have a really nice phenotype of it that I hope I never lose. I think it is one of ACE's most underrated strains.

 

[SweetSue]

Wow Sue, that's good news. I have liquid sunflower lecithin in my shopping cart at the jungle store now. How many milligrams of oil in pill form with the bio bomb recipe would you suggest starting with? I don't want to send an unsuspecting person to the moon. I tried some of my ac/dc x querkle oil about 7 this morning and I guess a little goes a long way. I took about a grain size dose maybe a touch bigger and it wiped me out. I'm still feeling it 6 plus hours later. It's really nice though! I like the idea of pills a lot. So you think olive oil over coconut oil? What about MCT oil?

Tikal for me in high doses is quite a trippy ride, it is one of my favorites. It makes mundane chores quite fun for me too. It is one of those strains I love to listen to music on. I hear things I've never noticed before on songs I thought I knew inside and out. I have a really nice phenotype of it that I hope I never lose. I think it is one of ACE's most underrated strains.

My thinking is that if you're taking the capsules recreationally, go with coconut oil and use the mango and supplements for competitive inhibition (I only take one, the apigenin) and enjoy the ride. For most medicinal purposes, olive oil would be the best of many good choices of LCFAs, IMHO.

The standard seems to be 10-15 mg of oil per capsule. Be smart and have something to eat a half hour before taking the capsule. This would be when you want to take your supplements and some mango too. Give those valuable cannabinoids the best chance you can. Be sure to drink lots of water. Not juice or coffee or tea, but water. Do also have those other choices if you desire, just make water a priority.

fookinel's been working through beginning a protocol with these capsules on the Study Hall thread. He just updated today. He started out one capsule after breakfast, one after lunch and two after dinner. The next day all doses increased by one capsule. Do that until you feel it. Back off one capsule and you have the individual dose. Increase the individual dose slowly but surely until you hit the therapeutic dose. Most shoot for the gram a day for cancer, so you almost have to get to suppositories. We're into uncharted territory with me here.

Of course, if you're taking them recreationally, increase until you're where you want to be.

I hope that helped Neiko. Both fookinel and panacea have much more experience with this.

I have the earbuds in filling my soul with some excellent music oozing with romantic love and acoustic guitar. What an indulgence. I love the awareness Tikal brings to the music. I agree with you, there've been things I heard that I couldn't believe I'd never noticed before.

From the perspective of a Callanaddict, I'm noticing an increased awareness of how to get more out of the Callanetics movements. I'm liking Tikal more and more. That second brownie piece was a good idea. Haha!

Do you get munchies with Tikal?

 

[Neiko]

Munchies with Tikal......hmmmm? I don't think so. Actually no. Weed effects me differently than most. I don't get the munchies very often on anything I've grown. They do happen but not on a regular basis. I have really only grown sativas or sativa dom hybrids. The few indica dom strains I've done I always seem to get the sativa phenotype......probably due to the HB soil. I am trying some 100% indica strains in the future. They have probably 3 or 4 months before they get their turn in the flower tents. Now the wife, everything gives her the munchies lol.

 

[SweetSue]

Munchies with Tikal......hmmmm? I don't think so. Actually no. Weed effects me differently than most. I don't get the munchies very often on anything I've grown. They do happen but not on a regular basis. I have really only grown sativas or sativa dom hybrids. The few indica dom strains I've done I always seem to get the sativa phenotype......probably due to the HB soil. I am trying some 100% indica strains in the future. They have probably 3 or 4 months before they get their turn in the flower tents. Now the wife, everything gives her the munchies lol.

I asked because, up to now the sativas have tempered my appetite, but this is two days in a row I've gone looking. Fortunately, everything I have in the house is healthy food, so I'm just fueling wisely. Lol!

 

[Noob4x4grow]

My thinking is that if you're taking the capsules recreationally, go with coconut oil and use the mango and supplements for competitive inhibition (I only take one, the apigenin) and enjoy the ride. For most medicinal purposes, olive oil would be the best of many good choices of LCFAs, IMHO.

The standard seems to be 10-15 mg of oil per capsule. Be smart and have something to eat a half hour before taking the capsule. This would be when you want to take your supplements and some mango too. Give those valuable cannabinoids the best chance you can. Be sure to drink lots of water. Not juice or coffee or tea, but water. Do also have those other choices if you desire, just make water a priority.

fookinel's been working through beginning a protocol with these capsules on the Study Hall thread. He just updated today. He started out one capsule after breakfast, one after lunch and two after dinner. The next day all doses increased by one capsule. Do that until you feel it. Back off one capsule and you have the individual dose. Increase the individual dose slowly but surely until you hit the therapeutic dose. Most shoot for the gram a day for cancer, so you almost have to get to suppositories. We're into uncharted territory with me here.

"I take two capsules in the morning, I take two capsules at night
I take two capsules in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright"

Just doesn't have the same feel as joints.

 

[Neiko]

"I take two capsules in the morning, I take two capsules at night
I take two capsules in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright"

Just doesn't have the same feel as joints.

Do you know hom many milligrams each capsule has? Are they bio bomb super charged?

 

[welshpony]

Love it noob! I had sublime on at work full blast the other day had a few bad looks when date rape came on though.....

 

[ohioboy]

If I were baking these simply for recreation coconut oil would be my favored choice. It's a more pleasing taste. I'm more interested in the medicinal value. It'll get me high anyway, but MCFAs go directly to the liver and those enzymes are aggressive buggers. You lose about 80% of the cannabinoid showing that route.

With an LCFA, the lecithin and some competitive inhibition I can expect to hit around 90% bioavailability. Next time I may try sweet almond oil. Mmmm..... Good idea Susan.

What about cannabutter? Last year I made several pounds and froze it in cup containers and take one out as needed and I've a couple lbs of cbd honey I made and I like that there's no plant matter in my food like I'll make toast and cannabutter it and drizzle some cbd honey on top and I'm good for 6-8 hrs tspoon (not tblspn)is what I use for a measured cannabutter dose can I be doing something better I really get off on it and also I've heard that the higher the temp that you cook at the More cbd's and thc burn out? Idk I always make rice Krispy treats cause you don't cook them so I melt the marshmallow and then after its melted I add the cannabutter so all it gets is warmed up works great


Outdoors organics

 

[SweetSue]

The rice krispie treats is an excellent idea ohioboy. I forgot about that possibility. I bet I could get a small batch made with whole plant material the way I do with the brownies. I'm a big fan of getting the plant material in. I'll probably do the same for my own capsules.

Making cannabutter takes more inventory than I've had on hand yet, but it won't be much longer. The high is not indicative of effective medication. High means your system has metabolized the THC. Effective medication levels are when there're still enough cannabinoids in the system at that point to meet the needs of your Endocannabinoid System.

If you add liquid sunflower lecithin to anything you're using the butter in I'm certain it will inhance the effectiveness of the cannabutter. You may find you can get the same effect with a lower dose.

I'm convinced at this point I should be able to drop my own dose by at least 1/4, if not right in half by making these improvements to the recipe. Today I'm overindulging, but tomorrow I'll give it a try and see how far a half dose carries me.

I've noticed that within five minutes of a half dose my mouth goes numb for a few minutes. I took a third half dose about 50 minutes ago and my whole body is thrumming. This is following a meditation session. Lol! Let me burn off some energy doing a drench for the no-tills.

Before I run, any chance I could get you to share your recipe for the CBD honey? I have three high CBD plants and a friend with rheumatoid arthritis. This might be a nice treat for him.

Later.

Unbelievably high over here. Feels kinda nice.

 

[SweetSue]

Do you know hom many milligrams each capsule has? Are they bio bomb super charged?

This I do not know yet Neiko I encourage you to swing by the study hall and ask fookinel or panacea about particulars. Then I can learn too. I think PsyCro's using capsules too.

I have some other info I can PM you. Let me pull it out.

 

[SweetSue]

Before I do that task, I stopped to share a laugh. One of the online cannabis sites that I recently joined is offering a course on growing your own cannabis at home. The intent is that you should have 100% confidence in starting your own grow at the completion of the course. All for the low cost of $147. I laughed right out loud when I read it.

This is what we excell at, in one grow room after another, watching over each other's shoulders and working through challenges together on our way to harvest celebrations. All for the low cost of...... Yeah.

Marketing, you gotta love it.