MrSauga is right , I did try without phing in dwc and my flood&drain. I had the cool yellow leaves coming out . I upped the MC then they all got yellow , mainly new growth ! The ph would be 5.7-5.8 after mixing nutrients, but the next morning would be 6.1 every time . Which several have already saw this happen ! So I decided to leave it alone . Wrong MrSauga saw what was happening and had me adjust the ph to at least 5.8 next morning the yellow was turning green . That was in the dwc .In hydro you need to be at 5.8 to 6.0 with MC. Iron is a common def in hydro when run 6.1 or higher. Lower than 5.8 and you start to lose Mg which shows almost right away as well. @West Hippie has perfect examples of this right now.