The Hexapus's Garden

@ WC , thanks for the info and correct me if i am wrong , you did say 18 months in flower ? ? also , you have the best medicine for sleep !!!!! i smoke at night and get a great night's sleep.... hope things get better on that issue !!!!! wishing you well.:Namaste:
 
Weaselcracker said:
There I go again.... 18 months, lol. No it only takes 18 weeks to flower.
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That's still 147 days of flower. Monster long flower time. Anything can happen in 147 days.

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Cbgb, I'm giving you reps for asking that question... Man that has made my day/month maybe time on 420 mag.. Meant in the lightest way possible brother, you just made me laugh big time... Thanks...
 
hi wc , no worries.... 14 weeks of flower for thai stick . i think it is worth the wait........ wc, why do the mold the buds and (thai) them up ?
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"Before unwrapping the string, prepare several leaves with a coating of hash oil. This will act as a glue while giving the Thai stick it's powerful punch. '
 
Speaking of sleep- it's been a long-ass week, and I was so tired writing that last bit about the 18 month flowering time that I literally had to keep squinting my eyes to see the screen. Passed out a minute later and here I am at dinner time trying to get my head around having morning coffee. Maybe I'll just say screw it- skip this day and go back to bed.
Cbgb that info and pic you posted there isn't how they used to make Thai Stick, as far as I know, but more of a modern idea somebody came up with and is calling 'Thai Stick'.

Thai Stick was just a little before my time. It was around when I first start smoking as a teenager, but pretty rare, and I missed out. I didn't start hanging out in Thailand till the late 80s and never stumbled across Thai Stick there. So I am not really the person to ask. Conradino is probably more well read on the subject.
All the pot I smoked in Asia was a brownish colour. It is dried and cured a bit like tobacco, in humid conditions which cause it to 'ferment' a little and turn brown. It gives a nice smooth cure and mellow smoke. I wouldn't be surprised if wrapping the buds was partly related to the curing process. It also would have made for great packaging. Packing of herb in Asia was a problem and usually when I bought smoke it would be like a large cheap shopping bag- full of branches with the bud rapidly falling off and crumbling into dust at the bottom. Other times it would be branches wrapped loosely in a cloth. They didn't fare that well either.
Malawi Gold is traditionally cured by being tightly wrapped in banana leaves and buried underground. I can see a little similarity there.
Thai is an old culture, never colonized, and there are a lot of localized customs. It's amazing to see the variety of local specialties which differ so much from village to nearby village, based on many centuries of tradition. Some of the weird traditional food products and handicrafts just make you say - 'wtf?' Thai Stick was probably just one of those kooky local traditions. During the 'American war' as it's called over there, somebody tuned into Thai Sticks and started exporting them. The smoke would have been better than most anything else people could get.
The wrapping and stick were not the active ingredient.

I think some websites say 14-16 weeks for the Thai stick flowering time. Others say 18. PotChimp's took 18. I'll be lucky if mine takes 20. It's going very very slow. I think I might cut the lighting hours down again, maybe to 10/14.
 
Hey weaseley, a q fer ya, iffin I might,, yer opinion requested, what do you think of the fact, as far as I read it, that you, me, or possibly near anyone in Canada might soon, within two weeks even, might soon be 'legal' as a grower and producer of marijuana?

Within two weeks, how radical is that??

What are your thots please friend
 
Can you point me in the direction of the hopeful news Nivek? I'm a bit of a Luddite in some ways and don't do television /radio + have had my head in the sand even more than usual lately and I didn't notice anything from our 420 newshound.
 
it also makes me scared to start new strains because I feel the urge to clone everything and make backup plants which becomes a large area of work and fussing around associated with each new plant.
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I share your pain here. The amount of space and resources required for each strain is a real issue and it pains me to see a strain disappear from the garden.
I tell ya... it tempts me to start making seeds... but that's hurdle too high for such a lazy gardener.


My cloning rate is pretty sucky lately too Nivek.
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I've been having stunning results cloning in pure perlite lately. I use min-hempy pots that hold about 1.5 cups of perlite and have a hole about 1" from the bottom. I use an opaque dixie cup from my local bar ('go' cups baby!!!) with a small hole in the top as a simple humidity dome. Water daily... the pots are small and dry out quick.
My world is a touch unique with heavy heat and humidity, but it's really been working well for me lately so I felt I had to share.


Within two weeks, how radical is that??
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WOW! Off to dig... thanks for the tip!
 
I was mentioning about soon folks being allowed to grow their own, if one has a medical pot prescription, or can designate someone else to grow for you, August 24 th or similar. Sounds like possible legal growing to me,,

Thoughts??

I don't know why it took me three days to mention this news or why has no one else???
 
I usually rely on word of mouth to get me the news I need around here, Nivek. So -thank you.
Last week I had a friend tell me that another friend recently went to a local doctor and got a medical prescription which allows him to use cannabis, and (if they had the story right) apparently to grow it. I've been waiting for the stars to align enough to give me the excuse to meander up in friend #1's direction and interrogate him. Perhaps today would be a good day for that.
If this is true, and I'm sure it is, it is awesome news. Really incredible. I'll be paying a visit to the doctor as well. Not something I normally would do -but no pain no gain I guess.
 
Tead I've been meaning to go look you up about the perlite cloning. I did clone one in perlite. As an experiment I just stuck a cutting in a tin can full of wet perlite- no drainage holes- 3 seconds of loving care. I added more water a time or two.
The stupid part was that I had no way of knowing when it rooted. With rock wool cubes in a tub of coco I can just lift the cubes up and see when there are roots, with little damage to the roots.
So I just pulled the cutting out of the can every so often. I got roots last week. They weren't super happy about being pulled out of the can of perlite, but I planted the cutting in Sunshine mix and it seems to be alive still.
How do you know when you have roots? And then what - dump it out upside down and transplant?
The daily watering thing - I can't easily do. But if I set up solo cups with holes on the bottom and stuck them in the wet tub of perlite system I had going recently for my perlite plants...... ??? That sounds like it might be a winner. I know you were worried about rot with that system- but it sure worked well the first time I used it.
I'm not sure whether to call that a 'swick' or not. I'll have to go re-read the stick thread.
 
nivek said:
I was mentioning about soon folks being allowed to grow their own, if one has a medical pot prescription, or can designate someone else to grow for you, August 24 th or similar. Sounds like possible legal growing to me,,

Thoughts??

I don't know why it took me three days to mention this news or why has no one else???
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Nivek! I did a video on this on my channel!! Check it out. I have mixed feelings.

Good to see you brother!

:ciao: Weasel! Just flying by to catch up with my Home Boys!

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This is some good shit!

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Here the link

Big News for Canadian Cannabis Patients w/Pigeons420 - YouTube
 
Weaselcracker said:
Tead I've been meaning to go look you up about the perlite cloning. I did clone one in perlite. As an experiment I just stuck a cutting in a tin can full of wet perlite- no drainage holes- 3 seconds of loving care. I added more water a time or two.
The stupid part was that I had no way of knowing when it rooted. With rock wool cubes in a tub of coco I can just lift the cubes up and see when there are roots, with little damage to the roots.
So I just pulled the cutting out of the can every so often. I got roots last week. They weren't super happy about being pulled out of the can of perlite, but I planted the cutting in Sunshine mix and it seems to be alive still.
Hwo do you know when you have roots? And then what - dump it out upside down and transplant?
The daily watering thing - I can't easily do. But if I set up solo cups with holes on the bottom and stuck them in the wet tub of perlite system I had going recently for my perlite plants...... ??? That sounds like it might be a winner. I know you were worried about rot with that system- but it sure worked well the first time I used it.
I'm not sure whether to call that a 'swick' or not. I'll have to go re-read the stick thread.
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I've been using just a touch of grow nutes (1/2tsp per gal.) on the clones. This gives them just enough to give a touch of color change and new growth once the clone has any roots. I use the new growth as an indicator.
Another indicator would be if the clone can live without a humidity dome. If it has roots to pull in moisture, it will live without a humidity dome.
I avoid any movement of the clone until I'm fairly sure if it has roots. I think your checking might be a problem.
I also avoid getting any water on the leaves and stem. In a more humid environment, it's probably a good thing, but I see the stems rot when I water the leaves with the humidity dome in place.
I know I preach about the rot issue, but it's probably not as much of a threat as I seem to indicate. I currently have a little clone going in a cup with holes in the bottom sitting in a plastic lid keeping a small external res. I let it dry before refilling it. Counting on wicking action to keep the clone wet.
After I've seen the indicators I want, I float the clone out of the container using tons of water. I set it into it's new home and let her go.
 
I watched the video Pigeons. Very cool. Thanks. Nice to put a voice to the name, if not a head :) :passitleft:
I'm going to try and track down that friend today and see how he managed to get a prescription. I know he got his prescription because cannabis helps ease his back pain and let's him sleep.
My main medicine is sativa. Think I can buy that on the street? There barely is a street here, let alone a dispensary of any kind, and the local dealers just have whatever no name shit they have- take it or leave it.
So yeah, I'll be screwing up my courage to go to the doctor. Not somewhere you'd normally ever find me as every time I've gone to the medical system it's brought me more problems than it's solved. All the more reason to sort out the legalities here though. My patients are legal- well, two of the three are, and one pending. The paperwork filled out between us isn't exactly up to legal standards, or probably even high school standards, but the intention is honest and I've just left it at that for the last few years.
 
I thought you had high humidity there Tead? I do - and humidity domes usually bring me problems -like more rot. It's ok if I'm there to constantly tweak the lid and get air in there.
But- I can take cuttings and stick them in any sort of wet medium - from perlite to coco to water, with no dome- and they will not wilt. They'll just sit there until they either root or rot.
No doubt it's hard on the little roots yanking the cutting out if the perlite like that, lol. I knew it was a problematic way to do the experiment when I started it. With coco at least I can gently dig it up and it just falls away from the roots. Perlite tends to get packed in there, as you know.
Ok I'm going to take more cuttings today, and I'll start some in perlite as well as coco. I think a large part of my problem with the coco is maintaining the right moisture level. Every once in awhile I have to add water to the tub, and I often end up with rock wool cubes that are too dry or too wet. The perlite aeration and wicking level seems about right.
I'm thinking maybe a covered tub of perlite with holes cut in the lid - along the lines of that bubble clones I made. Maybe that would get around the rot issue somewhat.
 
thanks for the lesson wc !!!!! if you put images or photo's of thai stick in your search engine you will see some crazy thai stuff !!!! can't wait to see the thai finished !!!! here is to a great harvest wc !!! :high-five::thanks::Namaste: thanks for all your help !
 
AKgramma said:
WC: I get my best pics by turning off most, if not all, the lights while taking pictures, and use the auto flash on my camera. I have a decades-old digital camera, but this might work on older cameras.
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Ak it has so far proven impossible for me to be not too busy to show up at the grow just before lights come on. And turning off the two 600's so I can try a flash picture isn't something I like to do if I can avoid it. Also I highly suspect it won't work in my space which is 8'x8'. I've tried photos with a flash before and never got any pics worth using. I will try again though if the timing works out.
I'm counting more on being able to update the old computermaphone with a photography app that can compensate the white balance better and get rid of some of the nasty colors the hps is giving me now.
Here is an example.


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These are my hexapus girls. The Lemon Skunk cross is the tallest one - middle of the back row. They aren't doing that great. Recovering now though. Early on I had some ph troubles and things yellowed up a bunch. Yellow is definitely the color of the month around here. In fact every plant in the grow has been hit by yellowing to some degree. The Thai Stick is looking increasing shitty and shrivelled. It was a lapse in judgement during the early days of the switch to flowering which got most of these ones off to a bad start. A time which I have started to think is an important time not to screw up, if you don't want yellow plants. Will I have to change the name of my journal to The Yellow Hole? Tune in and find out, kids.
Let's just hope they don't turn brown....
enough said.

Anyway- the hexapussy girls might be ok if I play my cards better from now on. I still think some of them lagged behind because of overwatering issues. Next time....



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Delicious Candy at front right looks suspiciously hermie like to me.


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I took four cuttings tonight for cloning experiment number 2,330, in perlite. I am hard at work trying to wire up a tiny microphone to the plants. When I have this invention perfected I will be able to hear their tiny cute screams for mercy and tiny little cute plant swear words as they slowly starve and die and rot in the so called 'cloning area'. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!
 
Weaselcracker said:
I thought you had high humidity there Tead? I do - and humidity domes usually bring me problems -like more rot. It's ok if I'm there to constantly tweak the lid and get air in there.
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I have 1/2" holes in the dixie cups I use for domes... and they're just sitting gently on top of the perlite. I'm sure I'm getting plenty of air exchange. If I don't use them, I see wilting.
I keep forgetting how drastically this can change thru the year. In the cooler months, I have to cover the holes and keep the humidity in, but in the deep of the heat I think I can get away without a dome at all. Hmmmm..... I need to test this.... perhaps with some PC clones.
I do have to keep the leaves and stems dry. If I spill when watering, I dry it off. Otherwise, I see rot.
 
I got feisty this morning and took some shots of my cloning setup... hope you don't mind foreign photos.

Side shot... hempy hole circled.
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Top down... note hole in "dome"
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She's about 2 weeks old. I'm pretty sure she has roots. I'll give her 1/2tsp per gal. at next feeding. You can see the color change (circled) from when I cut her. She's kinda screamin for food at this point.
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And last, and least, a rotting clone. I was just dumping water thru the hole on top. Chump move on my part. I pulled the rot after I shot the photo... we'll see what she does.
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