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A few pics. Mostly repetitive ones because I'm pretty sure I just updated a few days ago.
In breaking news though, the Malawi reveg attempt has started to grow some leaves, after a mere 46 days. I'm not sure it will live, since the rest of the plant is dying rapidly, but the reveg growth looks pretty vigorous, so maybe...
What else, hmmmm. Having the mix of mediums and strains under the hexapus is a pain. Once the plants get big it will be fine, but right now the coco plants are crazy overwatered, while the regular perlite pots are quite dry but doing great. Next time I'll do all one style. I'm not even sure the hempies need to be auto-watered, but am too busy to bother fixing what isn't broken, and I don't think it hurts them to get extra waterings.
Seems like there's extra room in there right now. I'm not sure how big the hex plants are going to get though. The Cheese may get quite a lot bigger too.
Malawi reveg
The Thai girls
Thai Stick
Mama Thai
The general situation.
In breaking news though, the Malawi reveg attempt has started to grow some leaves, after a mere 46 days. I'm not sure it will live, since the rest of the plant is dying rapidly, but the reveg growth looks pretty vigorous, so maybe...
What else, hmmmm. Having the mix of mediums and strains under the hexapus is a pain. Once the plants get big it will be fine, but right now the coco plants are crazy overwatered, while the regular perlite pots are quite dry but doing great. Next time I'll do all one style. I'm not even sure the hempies need to be auto-watered, but am too busy to bother fixing what isn't broken, and I don't think it hurts them to get extra waterings.
Seems like there's extra room in there right now. I'm not sure how big the hex plants are going to get though. The Cheese may get quite a lot bigger too.
Malawi reveg
The Thai girls
Thai Stick
Mama Thai
The general situation.
Kriaze
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Damn Weasel I thought my reveg looked terrible until I saw yours. I never realised that they take so long to grow back, I thought it would be a case of a week or two to recover then new growth done after a week lol, I should read up more beforehand on these spur of the moment decisions. Still it's good to see her on her way back, and the rest of the grow looks great, those Thais really steal the show and still love the angle of the Thai stick shot. Good to see everything is great 
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Thanks for the compliments mate. It's nice to be slowly inching my way back into a room full of buds again. Feels like it's been a long time since the garden was overflowing like it was, sometimes, in the good old days.
You're right about the reveg only taking a week or two usually. Maybe I overwatered it at the start or something. That plant sat there frozen in time for over a month. It was amazing really. Not a single thing changed in its appearance till a couple weeks ago when it very slowly started to die. I had enough space in veg that I just left it there. In the last week it's started the new growth. I have a clone of that one now anyway so it was never critical.
You're right about the reveg only taking a week or two usually. Maybe I overwatered it at the start or something. That plant sat there frozen in time for over a month. It was amazing really. Not a single thing changed in its appearance till a couple weeks ago when it very slowly started to die. I had enough space in veg that I just left it there. In the last week it's started the new growth. I have a clone of that one now anyway so it was never critical.
AKgramma
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WC: Tead tells us that you cannot overwater hempys, because of the hole. In fact, you are supposed to flush them out each time you water or feed. The perlite isn't as dry as you think, because it wicks up from the bottom. Stick your finger in about 4" and you'll feel the dampness. The weight of the pot, of course, is still a good indicator.
They will probably be just fine with the autowatering while you are away, but I get the impression they need a good flushing and not dribbles now and then.
Oh, and looks like Thai IS revegging! I'm going to try this with one of the BBL clones.
They will probably be just fine with the autowatering while you are away, but I get the impression they need a good flushing and not dribbles now and then.
Oh, and looks like Thai IS revegging! I'm going to try this with one of the BBL clones.
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I mean to be able to eventually grow my hempies like my regular plants, where I water them 'when I can' which is mainly on weekends. Until I can be around enough this summer to be sure that they'll make it this long between waterings, I've stuck them under the hex. They get lots of water and there's plenty of runoff out the holes. Minimum setting on my hexapus timer is one minute - 1/4" line, it amounts to over a cup each watering and they get it twice a day right now. That's because I'm worried about the regular perlite ones drying out too much.
The plants in regular one gallon pots full of perlite are at least twice as tall and wide as the hempy plants. I kept them alive in veg by putting them in a tray of wet perlite, and despite the worry about rot getting in the open tray, they did way better than the other four plants that are now under the hexapus.
I'm thinking the hempies would have benefited from less watering, or from being started in smaller pots and then transplanted when they gained size. I think they're starting to grow into their pots a little better now though. It's the coco (and perlite mixed) pots that worry me, they're as heavy as rock. I should probably take them out from under the watering system and leave them to dry out a while.
Anyway- this is all experimental stuff. I'm just testing the waters of different methods here, and the main challenge for me is the early stages. My entire grow operation revolves around the weekly watering schedule and whatever I grow has to be able to go 5-7 days without me there.
The plants in regular one gallon pots full of perlite are at least twice as tall and wide as the hempy plants. I kept them alive in veg by putting them in a tray of wet perlite, and despite the worry about rot getting in the open tray, they did way better than the other four plants that are now under the hexapus.
I'm thinking the hempies would have benefited from less watering, or from being started in smaller pots and then transplanted when they gained size. I think they're starting to grow into their pots a little better now though. It's the coco (and perlite mixed) pots that worry me, they're as heavy as rock. I should probably take them out from under the watering system and leave them to dry out a while.
Anyway- this is all experimental stuff. I'm just testing the waters of different methods here, and the main challenge for me is the early stages. My entire grow operation revolves around the weekly watering schedule and whatever I grow has to be able to go 5-7 days without me there.
Be sure to remove all the dead growth from the re-veg that you can. I mean, it's a re-veg, so it's totally gonna be ugly, and there are no buds to rot, but mold never helps anything.
Oh... and ya know... if you went with a 5gal container, your hempies would only need to be watered once a week.
I did a couple of 5gal hempies a while back and they ran forever between waterings.
Hell, I'm a lazy bastard, perhaps I'll join you and shift up to 5gals just so I only have to dance with them once a week.
I did a couple of 5gal hempies a while back and they ran forever between waterings.
Hell, I'm a lazy bastard, perhaps I'll join you and shift up to 5gals just so I only have to dance with them once a week.
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The dying off of the reveg is a fairly sudden and recent turn of events along with the new growth- I'll wait for more leafy reveg action to show itself, and trim off the old buds that aren't doing anything. I think it's pretty safe though- lots of air flow around that old skeleton.
I've put the hempies into 12-12 in the hopes that they won't reach full size. Maybe wishful thinking if I think they'll be small enough to match one gallon pots/ weekly watering schedule, but we will see. They're pretty small now.
I've put the hempies into 12-12 in the hopes that they won't reach full size. Maybe wishful thinking if I think they'll be small enough to match one gallon pots/ weekly watering schedule, but we will see. They're pretty small now.
AKgramma
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I am still somewhat unsure of the watering schedule with hempys + perlite/vermiculite. I know I tend to water them more than I should, but the medium both drains well AND holds enough moisture to keep the roots happy. Maybe more forgiving than all-soil pots?
My hempys are 5+ gallon kitchen trash cans, tall and narrow. A lot cheaper than pots designed as hempys. Also an experiment, WC. I'll be able to do a fair comparison after harvesting a few of them.
My hempys are 5+ gallon kitchen trash cans, tall and narrow. A lot cheaper than pots designed as hempys. Also an experiment, WC. I'll be able to do a fair comparison after harvesting a few of them.
They are more forgiving. You really can't over water.
I was like you when I began. The girls sailed along fine. Hell, I might still be overwatering.
I was like you when I began. The girls sailed along fine. Hell, I might still be overwatering.
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Not the greatest photo but an attempt to show the size difference between the perlite pot plants and the others. Perlite pot on left, a hempy on the right. The two hempies are both the same size as the one shown. The coco plants are a smidge bigger. The perlite plant in behind is a bit smaller than the one shown but they're both way bigger than the other plants.
AKgramma
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WC: yours look a lot younger than mine.
Your plants look healthy, tho. So you're doing something right!
Your plants look healthy, tho. So you're doing something right!
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Thanks Ak. Yeah they seem healthy enough, hopefully they will take off soon and start to fill those pots a lot better. I planted them a little over a month ago. July 1
I'm watching your coco. Never tried it. Been curious.
Big Budha
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Hi Wease Harley here um I mean Big Budha Just stopped in to check out your grow The Thai Stick looks great I'll be keppin a close eye on how things turn out you are 3 1/2 months ahead of my Thai Stick I'm just now starting to see signs of flowering.
I want to pollenate my girl with such a long flowering time at what point do I pollinate? For shorter flowering plants it's 3 to 4 weeks after the first signs of pistils would it be the same for longer flowering plants? Keep 'em green brother!
I want to pollenate my girl with such a long flowering time at what point do I pollinate? For shorter flowering plants it's 3 to 4 weeks after the first signs of pistils would it be the same for longer flowering plants? Keep 'em green brother!
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Thanks for coming by and turning the lights on here BB. I was trying to update the garden last night but postponed again because of camera problems.
Mine was pollinated early and kind of by accident - I meant to get it isolated and self pollinate it from it's CS hermies. But with two CS mutants in there and a male- things got out of control. Other plants I've pollinated took 4-6 weeks to produce seeds that were obviously ready, so giving the Thai Stick 6- 8 weeks seems like a good plan, since it's such a slowpoke. It's not going to hurt the seeds as far as I know if they hang on the plant for three months, but if I could do it all over again I would pollinate just one branch, at about midway- two months into flowering- giving it time to produce seeds but hopefully not distracting it too much from producing some good sinsemilla bud as well.
I'll try and get some worthwhile pics for an update soon.
Mine was pollinated early and kind of by accident - I meant to get it isolated and self pollinate it from it's CS hermies. But with two CS mutants in there and a male- things got out of control. Other plants I've pollinated took 4-6 weeks to produce seeds that were obviously ready, so giving the Thai Stick 6- 8 weeks seems like a good plan, since it's such a slowpoke. It's not going to hurt the seeds as far as I know if they hang on the plant for three months, but if I could do it all over again I would pollinate just one branch, at about midway- two months into flowering- giving it time to produce seeds but hopefully not distracting it too much from producing some good sinsemilla bud as well.
I'll try and get some worthwhile pics for an update soon.
Big Budha
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Thanks Weasie in the past I've gotten viable seeds after 4 weeks of pollination but I did have some flowers that didn't take because they were pollinated too late. What I might do is pollinate at 4 weeks in then again at 6 weeks and then again at 8 weeks
AKgramma
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WC and BB: Thank you fr this info. I tried to pollinate a branch of a lady I call Frilly lady, but I had to wait till pollen was available. By then I have just learned, it was too late and the branch didn't take. I would have seen seeds by now. But now the whole plant looks like hell, like it's finished, but no swollen calyxes, and almost all shriveled, amber pistils. I have one branch that looks like I might get sinsemella buds.
Does a one-branch pollination affect the whole plant like that? Maybe all but one branch got pollinated. Or maybe the seeds will form later, after the one healthy-looking branch is harvested? I assume that seeds take longer to form and mature. Maybe I need to be patient and wait out the 90 days?
This lady was put under flower around the end of May.
Does a one-branch pollination affect the whole plant like that? Maybe all but one branch got pollinated. Or maybe the seeds will form later, after the one healthy-looking branch is harvested? I assume that seeds take longer to form and mature. Maybe I need to be patient and wait out the 90 days?
This lady was put under flower around the end of May.
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Hey Ak. This is just based on my limited experience along with some guesses and assumptions, as usual- I might be just saying stuff you already know perfectly well.
Each grain of pollen is capable of pollinating one pistil. It's an interaction between one pollen grain and one calyx and shouldn't affect the rest of the plant. The calyx associated with that particular pistil on the bud then can produce one seed. The pollinated parts will turn their attention to producing seed and stop focussing on making the resin we like so much.
My understanding is that the remaining areas of the bud, the parts which did not get pollinated, will carry on as usual growing, producing resin and thc, and will be every bit as potent as if the neighboring naughty bits hadn't been knocked up.
I do not know if there is a general change of course in the entire plant when most of it has been pollinated, like an overall chemical/biological shift as it repurposes to seed production. I tend to think there might be- and that afterwards the plant puts less energy into producing resin in it's unpollinated parts since it's already achieved that important part of its life purpose. But I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe the pollinated areas are going full speed on seed production while the unpollinated areas are feverishly growing sticky buds trying to get knocked up as desperately as they were before.
At any rate, I do know that seeded bud can be amazingly good as like most people who been around for a while, I used to smoke lots of it.
As you may recall, when I pollinated my Mama Thai in my last journal, large swollen calyxes with immature seeds were plainly visible after six days. The Thai Stick took longer to show- though I don't know exactly when it got pollinated. But for sure within a couple weeks after the deed- seeds should be obvious
My impression was that 4 or 5 weeks was plenty time to produce viable seeds. But I also like leaving things to mature. 8 weeks should be plenty though.
Each grain of pollen is capable of pollinating one pistil. It's an interaction between one pollen grain and one calyx and shouldn't affect the rest of the plant. The calyx associated with that particular pistil on the bud then can produce one seed. The pollinated parts will turn their attention to producing seed and stop focussing on making the resin we like so much.
My understanding is that the remaining areas of the bud, the parts which did not get pollinated, will carry on as usual growing, producing resin and thc, and will be every bit as potent as if the neighboring naughty bits hadn't been knocked up.
I do not know if there is a general change of course in the entire plant when most of it has been pollinated, like an overall chemical/biological shift as it repurposes to seed production. I tend to think there might be- and that afterwards the plant puts less energy into producing resin in it's unpollinated parts since it's already achieved that important part of its life purpose. But I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe the pollinated areas are going full speed on seed production while the unpollinated areas are feverishly growing sticky buds trying to get knocked up as desperately as they were before.
At any rate, I do know that seeded bud can be amazingly good as like most people who been around for a while, I used to smoke lots of it.
As you may recall, when I pollinated my Mama Thai in my last journal, large swollen calyxes with immature seeds were plainly visible after six days. The Thai Stick took longer to show- though I don't know exactly when it got pollinated. But for sure within a couple weeks after the deed- seeds should be obvious
My impression was that 4 or 5 weeks was plenty time to produce viable seeds. But I also like leaving things to mature. 8 weeks should be plenty though.