The Gee Spot - You Finally Found It

[Gee64]

How much variance in Brix is there from lights on to lights off? I'm running my lights at night to keep heat down so the check them I would have to be up around 3 am. I don't sleep a ton but 3 am is early .

Ok so I say 10 hours after lights on because it's a pretty safe time to hit it for your solid maximums for the day, but really you know how about an hour before lights out, the plants actually start to look tired? They lose a bit of perk?

Well that's too late, you want it before that happens. On the other side of that once stretch is over and every day is the same for water consumption you can do it any time after about 7 hours.

Brix is definitely later tho because it's accumulative, but if 7 hours after lights on is when your plants are nicely in their groove you can definitely check VPD, and if you check brix too just remember that you can probably add a point or so for what it could have been later in the day.

If the lights are still on when you get up at least do it right away and see what you get. If it's later than 11 hours then VPD has likely changed as the plant will start preparing for dark when it switches from transpiraftion to respiration, so VPD may not be accurate to what it was earlier, but still close. You kind of want to know it's max tho, because if you read it earlier, think it's too low, reduce humidity to notch it up, and then 6 hours later it's now wound up full yhrottle, it may be too high.

So you only make adjustments at it's daily maximum time to be safe.

I check VPD every time I enter the tent just to see what they are doing. If they are warmer than normal all of a sudden they likely need water.

Once VPD is stable and your exhaust fan is set right for your tent, VPD has a way of settling in solidly. If the light is set just right and the soil is perfect dampness and air tempbis good, it gets much easier to hold RH stable.

 

[Gee64]

Spam time again. It was another sunny day with great light. 23.8C at 4pm.

This one,

and this one are the 2 larfiest buds I could find. They were hiding under the fans in the shade.

VPD looks dialed for outdoors lol. Sometimes even in mid October you can catch a break

 

[Gee64]

And more spam.

See the blue jug Azi? That's my 3gal dolowater can. It has a fantastic shower head that unscrews to clean out. $2 at Dollerama in mid winter. I should have bought 5.

Covid hits, now they are $8 at Dollerama if they have them, and $20 everywhere else.

 

[Gee64]

How much variance in Brix is there from lights on to lights off? I'm running my lights at night to keep heat down so the check them I would have to be up around 3 am. I don't sleep a ton but 3 am is early .

Sorry G I didn't actually answer your question. It can vary a lot, like when a storm is coming. 2 or 3 for sure, but sometimes if the microbes need more sugars they can drop 5 or 6.

Leaves are expensive tho, so don't go too crazy plucking them for brixxing, they have VPD value too, now that you see how they work, but for science to learn, check brix all different times of day, just don't short change yourself on leaves after flip.

The reading in the plants late afternoon is your best brix of the day.

 

[Gee64]

Lights are just now back on.

Air temp 75°
Leaf temp 73°
Humidity 47°
=
VPD 1.38

Humidity range 29-58
Temp range 66-86

Leaves average right around 2 degree difference, but depends on where in the canopy and whether or not directly under a light.

Thats a good VPD for flowering. If you can check it later in the plants day tho you should as there's a pretty good chance it will be different. Any chance you got up before lights off to zap another reading?

 

[Azimuth]

Any chance you got up before lights off to zap another reading?

No.

 

[Gee64]

Ever try a bottomless Swick/Sip where all inputs go in through the top? Its pretty cool but the plants get way too big. (Gee's a dikk)

Azi remember this post from Carmen's Swick thread? Keep it in mind and ponder it.

Once bricks are up and you return to swicking, the plants will still expect top watering, but the roots will gladly adjust to the SIP.

I think if you convert it back to a SIP but fill the res from the surface you will see pleasant results. Thats how nature fills her aquifers, she doesn't have a fill tube. LOS expects this.

Once it establishes you can fill thru the tube, but you will still need some top watering too, so form a plan and when the time comes to SIP again this will help you transition.

 

[Gee64]

No.

You lazy SOB!

 

[Azimuth]

You lazy SOB!

Not all of us are retired, so weekends are for sleeping in.

 

[Gee64]

I won't be retired until tomorrow. I can't squeeze it all in today so I won't even try. I'll go finish up tomorrow and hopefully be retired by lunch time

 

[Gee64]

Webcam shot. I need to raise the camera again.

 

[Azimuth]

Azi remember this post from Carmen's Swick thread? Keep it in mind and ponder it.

Once bricks are up and you return to swicking, the plants will still expect top watering, but the roots will gladly adjust to the SIP.

I think if you convert it back to a SIP but fill the res from the surface you will see pleasant results. Thats how nature fills her aquifers, she doesn't have a fill tube. LOS expects this.

Once it establishes you can fill thru the tube, but you will still need some top watering too, so form a plan and when the time comes to SIP again this will help you transition.

I'm mostly doing it that way now as I have the NetPot SIP built with a small connector pot to reabsorb any runoff, but I'm trying to not have much.

 

[Scottay]

Heya Gee! Those outside girls are lovely!! I dig those autumn like colors!! Thanks for sharing the DLI article too. I'll probably read that several more times. Happy Sunday buddy!!!

 

[Gee64]

Heya Gee! Those outside girls are lovely!! I dig those autumn like colors!! Thanks for sharing the DLI article too. I'll probably read that several more times. Happy Sunday buddy!!!

Your very welcome Scottay. Yeah read it a couple times or even more. It's confusing until it's not, then it's easy. Don't hesitate to pose a question if needed.

The key takeaways are that light intensity warms leaves, never let your leaves get as warm as the air, and don't make adjustments unless you are basing them on the late afternoon readings. 10 hours after lights on is a perfect time.

 

[Gee64]

Miss Sticky - Day 21 of Flower.

Not only does she fill the 5 x 5 but she is 6 feet tall now. Stretch seems to have finished. I brixed her and she's only 15 and her calcium line is barely fuzzy.

Not only is she a soil pig, she's a calcium pig too. This pot had a strong calcium mix in it, It's Rev's mix. So she got 2 litres of 65ppm dolomite water. I hope a 10gal can get her thru, she's a monster.

She gets 1 cup og Gaia Powerbloom every Wednesday for topdressing, as well as EWC and fish water. Fingers crossed.

It's hard to get a decent canopy shot now, she's just too big.

Some colas.

And this. One top in Larf Valley is turning red. That's not usually good. That's usually a hermie. I checked her and can't find any boy parts, but there was a big fan leaf on the next cola over that was rubbing the top of this one, and it's the only top to be getting rubbed like that. I'll have to keep an eye on this.

So Azi, I mixed 1 litre of RO water with 1 tablespoon of concentrate and got 45ppm. I'll test it daily. Is that what you meant?

 

[Gee64]

I'm mostly doing it that way now as I have the NetPot SIP built with a small connector pot to reabsorb any runoff, but I'm trying to not have much.

So how are you liking the netpot now that you have some time in with it?

 

[Gee64]

BK started flopping today, the weight is coming in. I have her partially tied up, I'll finish her later today.

Her fans are cranking sideways tracking the sun south.

Pistils on the larf are going red. Finish begins. I need 2 more weeks

She's not going to go pink like her Mom but the purple is real. It's almost black.

 

[Gee64]

The 3 RV's

They are just starting to really flower now. I love this plant but it's useless to me. I'm not sure if I will keep the mother or not. It's not happy indoors and won't come close to ripening outdoors. We shall see but I'm leaning towards getting rid of all my RVDV's. The worms support this direction.

If I only lived in California

 

[Azimuth]

So Azi, I mixed 1 litre of RO water with 1 tablespoon of concentrate and got 45ppm. I'll test it daily. Is that what you meant?

So how are you liking the netpot now that you have some time in with it?

Well enough, but the proof will be in the roots at harvest. I'm not watering it any more than my bucket SIPs but the next plant up I'm doing a couple of uppots to see if that makes a difference.

Pretty nice looking plant and the upper foliage has no sign of thrips damage so maybe my brix levels are finally getting getting better. I'll know more mid week.

We shall see but I'm leaning towards getting rid of all my RVDV's. The worms support this direction.

A worm bin certainly makes the decision easier.

 

[Gee64]

Ok good. Apparently I'm going to need it this grow. Miss Sticky just got too big for the pot.

Well enough, but the proof will be in the roots at harvest. I'm not watering it any more than my bucket SIPs but the next plant up I'm doing a couple of uppots to see if that makes a difference.

Pretty nice looking plant and the upper foliage has no sign of thrips damage so maybe my brix levels are finally getting getting better. I'll know more mid week.

Yessssss!

A worm bin certainly makes the decision easier.

It does. With 2 of them now I need all the food I can get.