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What's the thinking behind this? I would think I'd want the microbes in the RWC to help breakdown the minerals and meals. I imagine there's probably a starter set of microbes that went dormant but what is happening in the day prior that it's important to wait a day to add them?Brew the molasses and other ammendments for 24 hours in a warm room and then toss in the EWC for another 18-24 hours and see what that does.
I went and reread the prior TLO book on the teas since he's largely abandoned teas in his new book. He recommends diluting the tea before use so every 1 gallon of tea expands to double that for the garden.I have to admit, I wouldn't mind a small brewer too for the very reason you just stated. Clean-up is a bugger on a big brew.
You can toss it all in at once if you like but water is a solvent so it starts breaking things down and the molasses stews into any matter in the tea such as kelp. Then the microbes eat it better as molasses is in everything.What's the thinking behind this? I would think I'd want the microbes in the RWC to help breakdown the minerals and meals. I imagine there's probably a starter set of microbes that went dormant but what is happening in the day prior that it's important to wait a day to add them?
Yes, always cut your tea in at least half. Sorry, I have mentioned it so many times in here I figured you knew that.I went and reread the prior TLO book on the teas since he's largely abandoned teas in his new book. He recommends diluting the tea before use so every 1 gallon of tea expands to double that for the garden.
Calcium in a tea is safe if your soil can use the extra calcium, but putting Ca into teas is a bad habit to get into. Sooner or later you will burn your leaves. You are better to keep teas and dolo water or calmag seperate. Just an FYI moving forward.Ok, got my set up in place and am giving it a go.
1G pitcher w/half a gallon of dolo rain water, 1/2 T molasses, and 1T each bone meal, Seaweed JLF, and Fruit & Flower JLF.
I'll let that bubble for a day and then add 8T of castings
Thats right, I forgot that you road tripped thru here once upon a time. They are definitely fatties!They are cuties. I found them generally how you described but there were a few times I was on the trail and they felt threatened! Close winding rocky places. You don't want that at all! Fierce fatties they are when they're thinking you're too close! I forget exactly where. Most likely the Banff area or north of there. Whistlers!
Ok, that makes sense.You can toss it all in at once if you like but water is a solvent so it starts breaking things down and the molasses stews into any matter in the tea such as kelp. Then the microbes eat it better as molasses is in everything.
I'm sure you did. Because of the hassle, and the fact that my main brewer produces way more than I need, I've never really focused on teas. When I read the book originally I kind of skimmed that chapter, but I'm now paying attention. He also says not more often than once every 10 days, and if one doesn't use spikes, then teas are a must.Yes, always cut your tea in at least half. Sorry, I have mentioned it so many times in here I figured you knew that.
Definitely recycling the soil as a one-third part of my mix.You need to decide if you want to recycle this soil. If you don't then just pour molasses water straight in weekly to the end, but if you want to recycle it then you are better served to fortify it now and make your microbes robust, not lazy.
No worries there. I like to know the "why's" of what I'm doing as it helps solidify the practice in my mind. That's why when I answer questions around the site I try to give the reasons behind a practice.Sorry if that sounds like a lecture, it's not. It's just the logic behind it if you want to recycle your soil.
Ok. The Rev said he uses his dolo water every time and my rain water is very low in ppm and pH so I was just trying to bring it up to a good starting place. Probably no harm as my calcium line is sort of fuzzy but seems to have room to improve.Calcium in a tea is safe if your soil can use the extra calcium, but putting Ca into teas is a bad habit to get into. Sooner or later you will burn your leaves. You are better to keep teas and dolo water or calmag seperate. Just an FYI moving forward.
Hopefully that happens. I really only need 2-3 points so shouldn't be a big ask and hopefully it provides the boost to get the soil kick started to maintain things itself, but I don't think my mix is there yet with the lack of global P.This is what I have been waiting to see. It will be freaking awesome if you get a brix spike!
No, that's a Jadam extract of various fruits and flowers. That's what I gave the last plant that didn't have the K issue I often got 3-4 weeks into flower. A "liquid feed" as you call it.Fruit and flower JLF, is that your crumble?
Teas definitely work. You can always make teas without EWC which negates the need for molasses.Ok, that makes sense.
I'm sure you did. Because of the hassle, and the fact that my main brewer produces way more than I need, I've never really focused on teas. When I read the book originally I kind of skimmed that chapter, but I'm now paying attention. He also says not more often than once every 10 days, and if one doesn't use spikes, then teas are a must.
So, looks like I'm getting into the tea game.
No worries. It's how LOS works. You need to hear it over and over until you get out the other end. It's like I told Keff when I first met him. It's extremely complicated until you see it start to finish, then it's like "Really? thats it? anyone can do that."
Definitely recycling the soil as a one-third part of my mix.
No worries there. I like to know the "why's" of what I'm doing as it helps solidify the practice in my mind. That's why when I answer questions around the site I try to give the reasons behind a practice.
And I appreciate the patience you've shown retelling me things over and over.
I'll get there, but sometimes it takes a while to really learn the lessons as various things can seem unrelated until you can step back and see the whole picture.
One time for you, with room for more calcium won't hurt, but if you use your calcium seperately then tilth is there before you add the tea, plus it's easy to cross the line into too much and fry your plants if you aren't paying close attention.Ok. The Rev said he uses his dolo water every time and my rain water is very low in ppm and pH so I was just trying to bring it up to a good starting place. Probably no harm as my calcium line is sort of fuzzy but seems to have room to improve.
I agree, and possibly soil carbon, only because the other parameters have been eliminated. But when we analyzed your mix and compared it to my recipe, which is more or less a copy of Rev's, yours did show low on P.Hopefully that happens. I really only need 2-3 points so shouldn't be a big ask and hopefully it provides the boost to get the soil kick started to maintain things itself, but I don't think my mix is there yet with the lack of global P.
One round at a time, thats how it works when you are creating a recipe from scratch. It's easy to add more, but impossible to remove some if you added too much, so this is the way.The next round should be better on that front and we'll have a chance to see what that change will do.
Definitely..... for now.... eventually you will get your soil to where you want it and teas will become microbial boosts, not feeds.But still, given my small pots and lack of spikes, if I have to tea regularly this smaller setup should make that easier and i can just add it into my routine.
Thats actually a good thing. You only need slight improvements, and spikes are a big improvement.Spikes are another thing I skimmed over on my original read as that's another thing I don't do.
Sigh. So much room for improvement.
Ok cool, just making sure I understand what you are brewing.No, that's a Jadam extract of various fruits and flowers. That's what I gave the last plant that didn't have the K issue I often got 3-4 weeks into flower. A "liquid feed" as you call it.
I hear!If you guys love critters you really need to holiday in SA. We definitely have some cool critters here. It will be Kak cheap too
How do you use these little goji beauties?Day 3 of Veg for the LC-18's.
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Day 1 for Miss Sticky.
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6 RVDV clones cut from the one in the black tub outside.
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And my first bag of goji berries headed to the freezer.
They are being stored in the freezer until the bush is picked clean as they all don't ripen at once. After the full harvest get's tallied my plan is to toss some onto my oatmeal every morning, unless of course the Big Boss puts the kibosh on thatI hear!
How do you use these little goji beauties?
lol I usually brew in the bath tub. You may be in for a mess. Hopefully not. I couldn't log into 420 all day yesterday, did you have the same problem?My brew was really frothy after 24 hours even without the castings and its still super hot in the cabinet so I let the mix go another 12 hours before adding the castings for the final 12. I know in cool temps you have to brew longer and I'm hoping for not a huge mess when I check it tonight.
I left the cover to the pitcher on and fed the airstone through the pouring spout to try to minimize and direct any overflow and have a catch basin under it so we'll see what happens.