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It did it there too 
Thai Stick
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you are not SOL. it is possible to breed out Thai Stick.
First cross it
Grow the hybrid and get seeds.
Grow the seeds, get a male and pollinate the "sister"
The resulting seeds will be a wild mix of all the parents... you can pick a Thai Stick phenotype from the grow of these
First cross it
Grow the hybrid and get seeds.
Grow the seeds, get a male and pollinate the "sister"
The resulting seeds will be a wild mix of all the parents... you can pick a Thai Stick phenotype from the grow of these
Not as easy as that. The phenotype is a combination genotype and environment. The chances of all the relevant genes independently coming back together in the F2 is pretty close to zero.
They don't come back together in F2, that is the point
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When bred in this manner recessive genes will become available in the seeds that result from that cross. I have done this. What you get is like a box of candy... you won't know till you grow... BUT... The Thai Stick geno/phenotype will show itself in some of the seeds. In this way you are correct it is not so simple when you get one to preserve it but that is a whole other thread
Second edit -- it would be better if the parents were both solid strains and not themselves hybrids. The Thai Stick is a landrace strain so if you have a landrace female it will narrow down the wildness in that inbred grow.
Third edit -- yes it is a crap shoot
QKrop
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Hey welcome QKrop.
They don't use the word "landrace" with the Zamal Reunion plants I'm growing right now, they use the word "indigenous" to describe the strain. The GDP clone that's in with the male right now will be the first thing that gets pollinated with it. My plan is to:
1) Pollinate a true Zamal Reunion female with collected male Thai Stick pollen.
2) Store the pollen so it can last a few years (if possible).
3) Pick females from f2 to f5 that have mostly traits of the Thai Stick father.
4) Pollinate each of those females in each generation with the original f1 father's collected pollen.
Hopefully I can corner the genetics and it'll be less of a crap shoot that way.
They don't use the word "landrace" with the Zamal Reunion plants I'm growing right now, they use the word "indigenous" to describe the strain. The GDP clone that's in with the male right now will be the first thing that gets pollinated with it. My plan is to:
1) Pollinate a true Zamal Reunion female with collected male Thai Stick pollen.
2) Store the pollen so it can last a few years (if possible).
3) Pick females from f2 to f5 that have mostly traits of the Thai Stick father.
4) Pollinate each of those females in each generation with the original f1 father's collected pollen.
Hopefully I can corner the genetics and it'll be less of a crap shoot that way.
Hey welcome QKrop.
They don't use the word "landrace" with the Zamal Reunion plants I'm growing right now, they use the word "indigenous" to describe the strain. The GDP clone that's in with the male right now will be the first thing that gets pollinated with it. My plan is to:
1) Pollinate a true Zamal Reunion female with collected male Thai Stick pollen.
2) Store the pollen so it can last a few years (if possible).
3) Pick females from f2 to f5 that have mostly traits of the Thai Stick father.
4) Pollinate each of those females in each generation with the original f1 father's collected pollen.
Hopefully I can corner the genetics and it'll be less of a crap shoot that way.
Sounds like a good idea... I have to wrap my gourd around the genetics of that.
Even better, you might find a pheno with the Thai cannabinoid profile and the GDP habit.
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Even better, you might find a pheno with the Thai cannabinoid profile and the GDP habit.
With my luck it'll turn out the cannabis equivalent of a grackle like my Chem D project did.....
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Dinafem Seeds - Critical Jack (3 weeks and 2 days of bloom lighting):
Even better, you might find a pheno with the Thai cannabinoid profile and the GDP habit.
This is probably a dumb question. I get what Graytail says. Picking a trait you like then following your plan, selecting for mostly Thai Stick traits plus the Zamal trait. If you're just trying to get as close to you can to the Thai strain you got males from, wouldn't it be a lot better to just wait til the seed barons release another batch and try again for fems?
They're just out if stock, not discontinued, right?
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There's no official discontinued label on the seedbank websites for Thai Stick but every time I've seen a breeder put out new strains one or two more times while I'm waiting for a "back in stock" strain of theirs, that particular strain gets labeled "discontinued" shortly afterwards. Ace doesn't even list Thai Stick on their official website anymore. They were regular seeds, so if they came out again I would just buy 10 seeds to make sure I got a female. I saw someone else's version of Thai Stick, but it was a California Skunk cross.
I saw someone else's version of Thai Stick, but it was a California Skunk cross.
SmokesDaKush
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That 600 watt HPS is doing it some righteousness, SmokesDaKush
Note: The Thai Stick male decided it didn't want to be manageable anymore, so I moved it out of the 125 watt red spectrum CFL locker and put it into a 200 watt red spectrum CFL 2' x 3' closet. I'll get pics up later and you'll see what I mean.
Note: The Thai Stick male decided it didn't want to be manageable anymore, so I moved it out of the 125 watt red spectrum CFL locker and put it into a 200 watt red spectrum CFL 2' x 3' closet. I'll get pics up later and you'll see what I mean.
Well she has grown some righteous buds from the light thats plain to see
But you must have given her a lot attention as well
But you must have given her a lot attention as well
it took me a few days... man I am getting thick as a brick.
if you have enough pollen and can keep it long enough, you can "square" with a male.
this is usually done with a female but what the hell, why not do it with a male?
pollinate the female and get seeds
50/50
grow that seed and pollinate with the same pollen
75/25
grow that seed and pollinate with the same pollen (why does the e turn to i when you pollinate?)
99.9/.1
right?
if you have enough pollen and can keep it long enough, you can "square" with a male.
this is usually done with a female but what the hell, why not do it with a male?
pollinate the female and get seeds
50/50
grow that seed and pollinate with the same pollen
75/25
grow that seed and pollinate with the same pollen (why does the e turn to i when you pollinate?
)99.9/.1
right?
Hey welcome QKrop.
They don't use the word "landrace" with the Zamal Reunion plants I'm growing right now, they use the word "indigenous" to describe the strain. The GDP clone that's in with the male right now will be the first thing that gets pollinated with it. My plan is to:
1) Pollinate a true Zamal Reunion female with collected male Thai Stick pollen.
2) Store the pollen so it can last a few years (if possible).
3) Pick females from f2 to f5 that have mostly traits of the Thai Stick father.
4) Pollinate each of those females in each generation with the original f1 father's collected pollen.
Hopefully I can corner the genetics and it'll be less of a crap shoot that way.
I read this back just now. DUH yes I am getting thick as a brick.
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Thai Stick male - left; Grand Daddy Purple female - right:
The temps are too high in that unit; I have to work on the airflow today. The branches on this Thai Stick male drooped down on their own without being tied down (nice one to SCROG if I had a female):
GDP:
The temps are too high in that unit; I have to work on the airflow today. The branches on this Thai Stick male drooped down on their own without being tied down (nice one to SCROG if I had a female):
GDP:
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I hope this Thai Stick male gets far enough along before it's too late for pollinating the GDP mother:
See how unruly that Thai Stick got? Quick too!
But on a brighter note, the Critical Jack plant is turning into a 1-1/2' cola
See how unruly that Thai Stick got? Quick too!
But on a brighter note, the Critical Jack plant is turning into a 1-1/2' cola
Wow!
Do those sacs not look like they're about to burst? Do you know if there could be some viable pollen in unburst sacs? Would it hurt to prune and open a few, and if any substance looks promising paint on some flowers?
Any way to prolong the flowers on the mother to be?
That critical jack bud is something special!
Do those sacs not look like they're about to burst? Do you know if there could be some viable pollen in unburst sacs? Would it hurt to prune and open a few, and if any substance looks promising paint on some flowers?
Any way to prolong the flowers on the mother to be?
That critical jack bud is something special!