Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG

[Tead]

Holy F*&$!

2 pages of qwiso love!

I know and embrace most of my sins.
The filtering gave me some grief because I used paper. Shoulda just grabbed an old tshirt. I was trying to rush and get the mash outta the iso. Tho I tried to filter it twice thru paper, both broke... the second one let a bunch of really fine stuff thru, but the mash was already in the iso for way too long at that point, so I just drove on.
For the record, I used 70% iso. I managed to keep it down to about 1/2 of a 32oz bottle... including rinses and whatnot. It dried in a double boiler setup(ish) in about 2 hours... and that was after I accidentally dumped some water in the mix trying to fill the boiler.

I've not put it in the oven before. I was considering that.. but I cook with gas and putting iso in an enclosed oven with an open flame involved seemed like it might have been a poor idea. I think it could have benefited from some final joy in the oven, but I enjoy my home after all.
Somewhere... in a box probably... lives a set of bubble bags consisting of 5 different filter bags. It's been hiding for a few years now. I keep thinking it's time they showed themselves... but they're apparently not of the same mindset. This is probably an indication that it's time to de-clutter my world. Meh!

Another point to make.... Tead's just not a fancy smoker. Sure, I like to play with someone else's dab rig (oh yes... luvs me some fancy dabbin!) or play with their fancy battery powered vape rig... but I really do employ the KISS principles to every aspect of my life and something more intricate than loading a bowl with some herb seems a bit much.

I did a little reminder reading before I made my goo. Many folks had medical goals and spoke the word "de-carb" for some sort of heat process at higher temps. I'd sure bet someone (yea SS... that's pointed at you) in this room know about "de-carbing" and will toss a little education Tead's way.

See... like I blathered in an earlier note... I prefer to photograph thing's I'm proud of... this one... not so much.

Thanks for all the words all. I promise to step up the next batch.

 

[Tead]

... and I wish I would have gone with the everclear I had, but I was afraid it wasn't enough. Ran to the local market, but found none. How is it that a grocery store in NOLA doesn't carry such basic ingredients?

 

[lexort420]

Ya i guess i failed to mention don't purge in a gas stove lol i have a electric stove so its whatever ya know. I'll let sue go in depth on the decarb topic since i dont worry about that but to put very simplified its for when your eating cannabis it converts it so get your goodies, when your smoking cannabis its technically decarbed kinda when you light the bowl. In your case since you have a gas stove i would just double boiler longer it would accomplish the same thing I guess just remember alcohol boils off at 173F if im remembering correctly. When making qwiso it is definitely important to keep wash times short like 30 seconds, better to do multiple washes then to wash too long, basically if the alcohol easily turns green its spent, yellow/golden is the key. Ya once those paper filters get wet all it takes is a little jagged stem to poke a hole in them then before you realize it you got a big hole lol.

 

[lexort420]

How much product did you wash if i may ask?

 

[Tead]

And to tead, sorry for rambling in your journal lol in my defense it is on topic atleast lol

On topic??? How dare you not take the thread for a complete left turn!

Not the least little bother on my part. I've always felt that that's part of the magic around here... one subject leads to more. It's the open/honest communication I appreciate from this site. Feel free to drive your discussion in any 'ol subject direction that tickles your fancy.

 

[lexort420]

On topic??? How dare you not take the thread for a complete left turn!

Not the least little bother on my part. I've always felt that that's part of the magic around here... one subject leads to more. It's the open/honest communication I appreciate from this site. Feel free to drive your discussion in any 'ol subject direction that tickles your fancy.

Just didn't wanna take over your journal lol but i will keep that in mind lol. I too like this site for pretty much that reason lol.

 

[Tead]

How much product did you wash if i may ask?

I didn't measure anything. Spilled about 1/2 of the freshly washed iso on the ground.
At start, it filled a quart canning jar. I sent it thru a coffee grinder to break it down more.
I'd guess I scraped out about a tablespoon. A small portion of that was some fine powder.
The source material was OsmoGirl's trimmings. Lots of fan leaves and thick branches.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

With Qwiso and Qwet the main objective is to have everything cold as possible. When I do an alcohol run I make sure to freeze the leaves and alcohol overnight. This is the attempt to keep all the chlorophyll and other water soluble nasties in frozen form. So after you have both frozen then put the frozen jar of herb in a tub with ice water and salt. Pour in the frozen alcohol and start mixing. Agitate for 15 seconds and let sit 30. Repeat several times before pouring off through a filter. You can go several minutes because the chlorophyll will take longer than usual to get into the alcohol. A second wash will give more yield at less quality.

 

[lexort420]

I didn't measure anything. Spilled about 1/2 of the freshly washed iso on the ground.
At start, it filled a quart canning jar. I sent it thru a coffee grinder to break it down more.
I'd guess I scraped out about a tablespoon. A small portion of that was some fine powder.
The source material was OsmoGirl's trimmings. Lots of fan leaves and thick branches.

I only ask cause I usually prefer to do littler runs myself reason being it seems easier to control so i don't get too much chlorophyll. I usually don't do more then 1/4 a pint mason jar and I put just enough alcohol in there to put the liquid 1/4-1/2 a inch above the material. I usually ended up with powder when i either A had a crap filter and little stuff got through B used isopropyl alcohol lower then 91% or C used too high of heat when double boiling. I went through a lot of trial and error when I started making qwiso because I could never find just one way to do it so i took bits from all methods i read and watched and also learned from my mistakes and made sure not to do them again lol. A small batch of qwiso usually takes me about an hour to an hour and a half to do the washand strain and double boiler and purge. I actually like doing batches using anywhere from 1-4 grams of bud i know it seems small but it seems easier to not make it turn green lol.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

I only ask cause I usually prefer to do littler runs myself reason being it seems easier to control so i don't get too much chlorophyll. I usually don't do more then 1/4 a pint mason jar and I put just enough alcohol in there to put the liquid 1/4-1/2 a inch above the material. I usually ended up with powder when i either A had a crap filter and little stuff got through B used isopropyl alcohol lower then 91% or C used too high of heat when double boiling. I went through a lot of trial and error when I started making qwiso because I could never find just one way to do it so i took bits from all methods i read and watched and also learned from my mistakes and made sure not to do them again lol. A small batch of qwiso usually takes me about an hour to an hour and a half to do the washand strain and double boiler and purge. I actually like doing batches using anywhere from 1-4 grams of bud i know it seems small but it seems easier to not make it turn green lol.

Try the frozen method I posted Lex. It will make it easier to do a larger batch using a quart of half gallon mason jar.

 

[lexort420]

Ya i have tried the method you wrote up and I didn't notice a difference really maybe i screwed the salt water bath up idk. I know its supposed to lower the temperature significantly and the stuff was pretty darn cold but i didn't feel like i could wash for any longer then room temp supplies. Nowadays i just keep the wash time short and i swish it around in the jar but don't shake the crap out of it lol. Any idea how much is needed exactly? I had used a cup of salt for about half a gallon of water cause that is what I could fit in the tub with out it spilling as soon as i put the supplies in it. Idk i might revisit the freezing thing im always looking to improve my qwiso, my goal is to make qwiso as close to bho as i can, don't go shattering my dreams now lol.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

Ya i have tried the method you wrote up and I didn't notice a difference really maybe i screwed the salt water bath up idk. I know its supposed to lower the temperature significantly and the stuff was pretty darn cold but i didn't feel like i could wash for any longer then room temp supplies. Nowadays i just keep the wash time short and i swish it around in the jar but don't shake the crap out of it lol. Any idea how much is needed exactly? I had used a cup of salt for about half a gallon of water cause that is what I could fit in the tub with out it spilling as soon as i put the supplies in it. Idk i might revisit the freezing thing im always looking to improve my qwiso, my goal is to make qwiso as close to bho as i can, don't go shattering my dreams now lol.

Did you also freeze everything (alcohol and herb) overnight? Using this method I have gotten some very nice yellow Qwiso.

 

[lexort420]

Did you also freeze everything (alcohol and herb) overnight? Using this method I have gotten some very nice yellow Qwiso.

Ya i froze the bud and alcohol for 24hrs exactly cause I figured that should be plenty stuff was pretty cold i was wearing gloves cause I am a wus lol i would have never warmed up again after that lol. If you look a page or two back i put up a picture for tead of one of my last batches it was nice and yellow and that was with room temp supplies and just short wash and swish lol.

 

[lexort420]

When i saod my goal is to make qwiso turn out like bho i basically meant i want it to continue to look yellow when its scrapped up, don't know how I will do it but i want to figure it out lol

 

[ShiggityFlip]

When i saod my goal is to make qwiso turn out like bho i basically meant i want it to continue to look yellow when its scrapped up, don't know how I will do it but i want to figure it out lol

One of the things you can do is to "winterize". Take your mostly dried Qwiso and resuspend it in ethanol. Place in freezer overnnight. Some of the plant waxes will come out and harden. Then filter the ethanol and dry. Better product for sure.

 

[Tead]

I wanted to freeze mine before I jumped in... but an empty grinder put a kibosh on that concept.
I shook the bejeezus out of it to.... next I'll do it much smoother and just swish it around.

 

[Tead]

So... I chat up a local on my morning run. He's headed off to dance at some shindig. He had parts of a Mardi Gras Indian costume in his hands... which is what triggered me to chat him up initially.
We have a discussion about how we're both paid to do something we enjoy and how, as New Orleanians, we both feel a need to give back to the artist community some.
It was a very nice chat... but it reminded me that I've been in the habit of avoiding the newbies asking crazy things. I decided to stick my toes back in that water this morning and I intend to visit that thread more often. Wish me luck.

 

[Radogast]

Ok... Photos and feedings...

First up, Betty says "Brrrrrrr!!!"

Next, the Osmo girl.... still getting legs some, but uncovered and doing well.

Other vegging girls and group shots of the veg tent.

Shots of the blooming girls....

Off to warm my bones by the fire....

Well... Even in The Big Easy, I prefer to start my drinking after noon.... tho it's a very soft rule broken often. 5am seems a touch early... plus, you really don't want to see the leftovers from the night before that haven't made it out the door yet. Sometimes I think "last call" might actually be better than 24hr drinkin. You know you've had a drunken night when you leave the bar and the sun's blinding you.... funnny.

5-9AM seems the most dangerous time in the French Quarter. There are some predatory folks on the streets. Waiting until noon and the cops are on patrol seems much safer. I can' speak for the rest of NOLA - only spent time in the quarter and the garden district - and totally tourist

 

[Tead]

There's a tradition that occurs somewhere around 6am.
The cops go round with an ambulance and scoop up the drunks sleeping on the streets.
Makes the tourists feel a touch better.
I've seen ambulances follow stumbling drunks down Canal waiting for them to fall. Obviously they get paid per head.

Thanks for the shots... I was beginning to wonder what my garden looked like when full. Plus, that was the start of OsmoGirl... I just squeezed her leaves yesterday to get some needed love after burning up all her buds.

 

[SweetSue]

I wanted to freeze mine before I jumped in... but an empty grinder put a kibosh on that concept.
I shook the bejeezus out of it to.... next I'll do it much smoother and just swish it around.

It's the winterizing that'll make the biggest difference. Swishing instead of shaking the bejeezus would go a long way too.