Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG

[SweetSue]

I'm definitely the lazy gardener. How does your perlite system work? Is a drip system, or E&F or quasiDWC? Details please?

Oh Skybound....... You're hooked now.

The entire garden is 2L soda bottles made into Hempy pots. Hempy is a passive drain to waste hydro system that one can use in a hot environment that would normally preclude the use of active hydro methods.
Basically, one puts a small hole near the bottom of a growing container of some sort (2Ls in my case). This creates a small res in the bottom of the container and the water wicks up thru the mix between waterings taking the nutrients with it.
Easy. Stupid easy if you use an Osmocote+ nutrient regime.

I can testify that the simplicity and success translates well into SweetSue's kingdom too. I clone using TOAST's produce bag technique, a method so reliable that I take the clone cutting at a particular time in the cycle - Dave Groomer has me experimenting with 15 days into flower, which is looking very promising - pop that singular cutting into a bag and wait. Still running 100% successful with his brilliant self-contained atmospheres full of moisture and CO2 from my breath that inflated the bag.

To be able to take a singular cutting from each maturing specimen and know with absolute confidence that it will succeed has allowed me to create my own flow.

Mine start out on the floor in front of the tiny closet, checked every three days.

When they sprout roots they get potted, either in soil or in perlite with Osmo Plus.

Back on the floor for a day to adjust to the room conditions without light stress.

Then off the floor to the sides of the tiny closet, still not so close to the lights as to be stressful while they get some feet under them,

....then off to the veg shelf. Oooo....! I forgot.... I have a new light that'll be making its way to me for this space. Something new and experimental Dan has in mind for me.

Sorry.... Got lost in a gleeful dance there. That Dan over at Timber Grow Lights is one amazing man. If this is my karma coming back at me I must have been a really good person.

Introducing me to the ease of your hempy system has changed the flavor of my grow and allowed me to drop some interesting specimens into spaces left over by the big pots of soil. As I harvest one surprisingly robust specimen after another from the hempy pots I wonder every time how long it'll take me to shift the whole garden over to the ease of hempies.

I think Tead has bets placed on the time it'll take me to face that music. Today I'll be planting the next seed in a hempy, a Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies. That'll make four hempy pots in a bevy of....... 12 plants, with plans for more in the coming months.

Skybound..... You've been warned of the addictive nature of Rev. Tead's methods.

 

[Radogast]

Alrighty... I meant to do this yesterday, but life occurred.
We've been speaking of the flow lately. I took some shots to talk about it.

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Of course, the waves in Tead's SOG crash upon the blades of my scissors next, but I don't feel the need for photos from there on out.

Nice explanation of "the flow."

Good choice to do it now while you have everything so new, shiny and pretty

Are these larger Blue Dream girls sleepy, or are they weeping over the deep humidity in your swamp?

No dig there. Your Mississippi mud is the best swamp in the USA!

 

[TheFertilizer]

Oh Skybound....... You're hooked now.



I can testify that the simplicity and success translates well into SweetSue's kingdom too. I clone using TOAST's produce bag technique, a method so reliable that I take the clone cutting at a particular time in the cycle - Dave Groomer has me experimenting with 15 days into flower, which is looking very promising - pop that singular cutting into a bag and wait. Still running 100% successful with his brilliant self-contained atmospheres full of moisture and CO2 from my breath that inflated the bag.

To be able to take a singular cutting from each maturing specimen and know with absolute confidence that it will succeed has allowed me to create my own flow.

Mine start out on the floor in front of the tiny closet, checked every three days.

When they sprout roots they get potted, either in soil or in perlite with Osmo Plus.

Back on the floor for a day to adjust to the room conditions without light stress.

Then off the floor to the sides of the tiny closet, still not so close to the lights as to be stressful while they get some feet under them,

....then off to the veg shelf. Oooo....! I forgot.... I have a new light that'll be making its way to me for this space. Something new and experimental Dan has in mind for me.

Sorry.... Got lost in a gleeful dance there. That Dan over at Timber Grow Lights is one amazing man. If this is my karma coming back at me I must have been a really good person.

Introducing me to the ease of your hempy system has changed the flavor of my grow and allowed me to drop some interesting specimens into spaces left over by the big pots of soil. As I harvest one surprisingly robust specimen after another from the hempy pots I wonder every time how long it'll take me to shift the whole garden over to the ease of hempies.

I think Tead has bets placed on the time it'll take me to face that music. Today I'll be planting the next seed in a hempy, a Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies. That'll make four hempy pots in a bevy of....... 12 plants, with plans for more in the coming months.

Skybound..... You've been warned of the addictive nature of Rev. Tead's methods.

You think that bag trick would work if I planted the stem straight into a solo cup of soil, and then put that whole thing in the bag?

Trying to move away from rockwool and plugs and stuff. Just more stuff to buy.

 

[Skybound]

Sue, the way you described the process above, leads me to believe you start the cloning process under bloom light schedule, is this true?

 

[SweetSue]

You think that bag trick would work if I planted the stem straight into a solo cup of soil, and then put that whole thing in the bag?

Trying to move away from rockwool and plugs and stuff. Just more stuff to buy.

You know, I can't think of a reason it wouldn't. Pot Chimp been known to start clone cuttings by simply sticking them into the pot of soil. I use Rapid Rooters soaked in an aloe vera dilution and use rooting hormone to coat the branch, of course. My sense is that it's the atmosphere created in the bags that makes the magic. They typically take between 9-12 days, but I've had a couple take longer. Just haven't lost one yet.

Give it a go. Show us how easy it can be to do this. TOAST will be so proud if it works.

Sue, the way you described the process above, leads me to believe you start the cloning process under bloom light schedule, is this true?

I was taking them when I flipped, but Dave Groomer has convinced me to try at day 15 after flipping. They're blooming by then, but by the time they've reverted to veg and bushed out it's the perfect time to follow the mother, who's being harvested. That two weeks additional veg time I lose shouldn't effect anything, really, since they were always ready to flip before I had tent space open.

So far the new clones, taken in flower, are transitioning fine and look to be some of my best clones to date.

 

[Skybound]

What I meant, was do you keep the cuttings in 12/12 until rooted, then move them back to veg, or do you just take them from a plant in bloom on day 15 and root and reveg them in 18/6?

 

[SweetSue]

What I meant, was do you keep the cuttings in 12/12 until rooted, then move them back to veg, or do you just take them from a plant in bloom on day 15 and root and reveg them in 18/6?

They spent two weeks at 12/12 and then I took cuttings and those went back to 20/4. I run my grow veg lights 20/4. Makes my life easier to cater to the autos. The clones rooted under 20/4 lights.

Look Tead.....my first Transplant into a 2-liter.

Could this be any easier?

 

[Tead]

I think Tead has bets placed on the time it'll take me to face that music.

How did I not put a nickel on that!?!? I must be slipping in my advancing years.

Nice explanation of "the flow."
Good choice to do it now while you have everything so new, shiny and pretty

Thanks. The later part made me chuckle some... I have plans to dirty it up a bit with some plywood walls. The Reflectix stuff is problematic in many ways when used alone as a wall. I'll be reapplying the Reflectix on top of the plywood and all of this should bump up my air seal game a good bit.

Are these larger Blue Dream girls sleepy, or are they weeping over the deep humidity in your swamp?

No dig there. Your Mississippi mud is the best swamp in the USA!

Neither. Root bound. Too big for the little 2Ls. I kinda think I'm finding that to be true with many sativa strains.
I generally ignore it and have plans of pumping up pot sizes soon.

 

[SweetSue]

Neither. Root bound. Too big for the little 2Ls. I kinda think I'm finding that to be true with many sativa strains.
I generally ignore it and have plans of pumping up pot sizes soon.

Makes me glad my Carnival is in a bigger pot. I like the one gallon vinegar bottles myself. I'm gonna keep acquiring them and replacing the 2-liters at some point, but one can only use so much vinegar and Pepsi bottles were much easier to find.

 

[Weaselcracker]

You think that bag trick would work if I planted the stem straight into a solo cup of soil, and then put that whole thing in the bag?

Not sure about soil, but I bet a cup of perlite would work great. I stick my cuttings in a tub of perlite for cloning - incredibly easy and the process needs almost no maintenance. I don't use any sort of dome. They do fine without it, presumably because my RH is high. But if your RH is low, some sort of combo of the Tead/LembaToast method would work really well I bet.

 

[Tead]

Look Tead.....my first Transplant into a 2-liter.

Could this be any easier?

Oh look... a newbie in the garden. Very nice!
My quest to find the laziest grow method may have hit the bottom of the barrel. I'm hard pressed to think of a way to simplify it further. I might hook up some sort of autowater system like Weas does some day.

 

[Tead]

Not sure about soil, but I bet a cup of perlite would work great. I stick my cuttings in a tub of perlite for cloning - incredibly easy and the process needs almost no maintenance. I don't use any sort of dome. They do fine without it, presumably because my RH is high. But if your RH is low, some sort of combo of the Tead/LembaToast method would work really well I bet.

In my world, I draw the RH line at 60%. Below 60, I need to cover them, but I'm mostly well above that so I generally don't bag them.

 

[NorCaliwood]

Drive by and looks kind of busy here... Keepem Green

 

[Weaselcracker]

Yeah an autowatering system would make it almost hands free for much of the time. And- I haven't paid enough attention to know/remember how you mix the osmocote within the pot, but I wonder if maybe with a little re-jigging of things you could place the unrooted cutting in its final pot from the start. That would be lazy..:

 

[Tead]

Yeah an autowatering system would make it almost hands free for much of the time. And- I haven't paid enough attention to know/remember how you mix the osmocote within the pot, but I wonder if maybe with a little re-jigging of things you could place the unrooted cutting in its final pot from the start. That would be lazy..:

I've been wondering just that as well. I have a couple of clone tests to do. I wanna try a strange bag based clone method too... hold the medium and clone bottom in a black back with a small hole the clone passes thru.

 

[lexort420]

Hey brother! Your garden is looking nice and packed lol!

 

[Rooster1]

Morning Tead, Well I'm back home for a few days trying to jump start my garden. I'll be heading back to Red Stick in the morning. Going to try and run back and forth every ten days or so. Have to get my jars filled asap. Want to thank you again for my parting gifts after my recent visit. By the time I get back here next time I should be ready to drop a bean or four..... maybe five!
I'll be in touch my friend and would like very much to visit you and your funny little honey again in the next few weeks. Strolling on, too many gardens to visit and try and catch up...

 

[Tead]

I'll be in touch my friend and would like very much to visit you and your funny little honey again in the next few weeks. Strolling on, too many gardens to visit and try and catch up...

The grinder's usually full, and these days, one can pick from a variety of mix and match green gumbo options in Tead's world.... plus food! You know the way... don't let the weeds cover the path.

 

[Tead]

Hey brother! Your garden is looking nice and packed lol!

Some fresh shots for ya....

Veg. It was promotion day everything shifted from cutting new clones on up the line.

Bloom. Had to drop the HPS back to 75% and the LED down to ~75% for heat reasons.

And a new strange clone attempt. Black plastic bag (3 layers) with watered perlite inside. Holes poked with nail. Clones stuck into medium thru holes. No watering... unattended cloning attempt.

Dat's da garden.
There have been a couple of unpublished harvests... an PC and an OGK. The OGK is still drying.
The PC makes me laugh... not from being high, but from it's smell. I was outside on the deck the other day with a couple of smoking buddies. We were sitting a few feet from each other. I opened a grinder full of PC to load a bowl. They both snorted the air as soon as I opened the grinder and one of them popped off with "Oh... Pineapple chunk ehhh?". Just opened the grinder... hadn't even stuck a finger in to dig some out yet. It was a stylin moment I really enjoyed.

 

[Tead]

Another smelly PC story....

I often do my trimming tasks exactly where I am as I type these words.
This morning, I kept smelling PC. I moved the PC from the drying rack to a jar the other day. Apparently, a nice thick nug was a touch of an escapist the other day and was very nicely smelling up my desk.
I sure do love the smell, but the bud must go live with it's ilk in the jar.