Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG

Random shots from this morning's watering...

A busy beg tent
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This is fun. 3 different Crit+ clones from the same mother on 3 different feeding levels. Oh look... a Blue Dream snuck into the shot.
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Some SSDC bud porn
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A very purple DDA coming along. I just love the white hairs against the purple growth.
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Damn.... 2:30a and Tead rolls into his morning world...
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You're insane man. Ya should sleep late. Much easier on the constitution
 
Drive by. All this LED stuff is greek to me. My thoughts about HID and LED, I know I can blast a 5X5 ' footprint with a 1000 watter. And I have good light pertration to grow, good buds on 4+ foot plants. Doesn't LED's light peter out pretty fast in the pentration department?
But I'll have to see for myself. I'm going to do a small tent 20"x32" tent with this Mars Pro11. Should be all the light they can use. Least by their recommendations. They compair it to a 400 watt HID. Wow IF I could ever run a 400 in there. I run either a 250 hid or a 300 watt CFL in there for seedlings and small veg plants. Or as a nursery for spraying incoming clones every once in awhile. I plan on breaking out the meter and checking them out too. Now I'm stuck on stupid,, isn't there a difference in measurements for LED/HID? Lums for HID, well whatever it is on my meter is all I'll be testing.
Gardens looking great. Nice bushy starts.. GL and Keepem Green
 
Weaselcracker said:
You're insane man. Ya should sleep late. Much easier on the constitution
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I'm good for about 6hrs... after that, I just can't stay there and try to sleep, so the java flow begins.
It works out well for me tho. I can do this in the mornings and still get a good bit done during the daylight. I cherish the quiet mornings. They let me work out my thoughts and plan my day some.
I have been damaged by many, many years of rising early. Started in my days wearing too much green and continued thru my 1's and 0's days. I guess you just get set that way after doing it for so long.
 
Tead said:
I'm good for about 6hrs... after that, I just can't stay there and try to sleep, so the java flow begins.
It works out well for me tho. I can do this in the mornings and still get a good bit done during the daylight. I cherish the quiet mornings. They let me work out my thoughts and plan my day some.
I have been damaged by many, many years of rising early. Started in my days wearing too much green and continued thru my 1's and 0's days. I guess you just get set that way after doing it for so long.
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3 AM is a good time to get stuff done. Pretty much no one calls on the phone between 3 and 5 AM :)
 
Norcaliwood said:
Drive by. All this LED stuff is greek to me. My thoughts about HID and LED, I know I can blast a 5X5 ' footprint with a 1000 watter. And I have good light pertration to grow, good buds on 4+ foot plants. Doesn't LED's light peter out pretty fast in the pentration department?
But I'll have to see for myself. I'm going to do a small tent 20"x32" tent with this Mars Pro11. Should be all the light they can use. Least by their recommendations. They compair it to a 400 watt HID. Wow IF I could ever run a 400 in there. I run either a 250 hid or a 300 watt CFL in there for seedlings and small veg plants. Or as a nursery for spraying incoming clones every once in awhile. I plan on breaking out the meter and checking them out too. Now I'm stuck on stupid,, isn't there a difference in measurements for LED/HID? Lums for HID, well whatever it is on my meter is all I'll be testing.
Gardens looking great. Nice bushy starts.. GL and Keepem Green
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Oh nice!!!
I have some Mars units. One thing I didn't like about them.... the air flow direction. I want to hook vent tubes to the vent on the top, but that's the incoming side of the airflow and the flow is going the wrong way for pulling the heat out. I may get creative and try to reverse the fan. I use them in a small/hot area as well, and a vent tube pulling the heat out directly would be really helpful.

I put the Mars units in my veg tent about 2 months ago (maybe? time flies and all) and I've been super happy with the boost. My bloom tent size doubles, but my veg tent seems to be keeping pace.
 
Radogast said:
3 AM is a good time to get stuff done. Pretty much no one calls on the phone between 3 and 5 AM :)
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I forgot to mention... I cover the morning shift at 976-TEAD (do they still have the 976 porno/soothsayer numbers... or am I just old?).
You can call us 24/7 for grow support, but we keep the bong by the phone, so you mostly just hear bong rips in the background. Sometimes there are two of us and you get to hear us laughing about something.
$4.99/min!
 
Radogast said:
3 AM is a good time to get stuff done. Pretty much no one calls on the phone between 3 and 5 AM :)
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Exactly. Then I just try to get to sleep before those silly birds start singing.
 
Tead said:
I'm good for about 6hrs... after that, I just can't stay there and try to sleep, so the java flow begins.
It works out well for me tho. I can do this in the mornings and still get a good bit done during the daylight. I cherish the quiet mornings. They let me work out my thoughts and plan my day some.
I have been damaged by many, many years of rising early. Started in my days wearing too much green and continued thru my 1's and 0's days. I guess you just get set that way after doing it for so long.
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Down at midnight, eyes wide by four, done it that way for over 30 yrs now. Nothing better than sitting on the porch, burning a fatty waiting for the birds to wake up.

Once or twice a week I might get six hours sleep, but it'll be split into two like Granny used to do. She'd go to bed at nine, get up at midnight, and putter around to three or four before going back to bed for a few hours. The CEO thinks I'm nuts. :)
 
Radogast said:
3 AM is a good time to get stuff done. Pretty much no one calls on the phone between 3 and 5 AM :)
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When I was in the manic stage of grief and couldn't face the empty bed that slice of time between 2 AM and 6 was my favorite time of the day. Got some of my best writing done during those hours. Nothing like catching a bedtime buzz as you listen to the birdsong ramp up and watch the sun rise over the horizon.

These days I've fallen back into the schedule of bed by 2AM. I'm told this is good, but sometimes I miss the middle of the night conversations I used to carry on.
 
Tead said:
I've got a bunch of OGK in the veg and bloom rooms, so I looked up my original seed order and did some digging.
I found this little blurb from the folks at Dinafem.... OG Kush: everything you need to know about this strain in 10 delicious puffs
I just can't sing it's praises enough.
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Nice little read there. I'm edging towards deciding I need to add a good chemdawg or OG Kush strain.



Rifleman said:
Down at midnight, eyes wide by four, done it that way for over 30 yrs now. Nothing better than sitting on the porch, burning a fatty waiting for the birds to wake up.

Once or twice a week I might get six hours sleep, but it'll be split into two like Granny used to do. She'd go to bed at nine, get up at midnight, and putter around to three or four before going back to bed for a few hours. The CEO thinks I'm nuts. :)
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The wren has been trilling up a storm lately. I heard him/her as I typed that. :) ... and as I typed the smile :)


SweetSue said:
When I was in the manic stage of grief and couldn't face the empty bed that slice of time between 2 AM and 6 was my favorite time of the day. Got some of my best writing done during those hours. Nothing like catching a bedtime buzz as you listen to the birdsong ramp up and watch the sun rise over the horizon.

These days I've fallen back into the schedule of bed by 2AM. I'm told this is good, but sometimes I miss the middle of the night conversations I used to carry on.
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I'm usually going to bed between 2-3 AM, waking at 8AM, except when I wake early. The need for a shorter amount if sleep seems to happen to many of us around age 45. I used to go to bed at 10 and wake a 2-4 AM, but lately I like the late night unwind more than I do morning meditations. I was up 'til 4 AM chatting with a friend last week, like I used to do in my 20s.


We talked sleep, anyone want to talk about how regular we are?
 
Radogast said:
Nice little read there. I'm edging towards deciding I need to add a good chemdawg or OG Kush strain.





The wren has been trilling up a storm lately. I heard him/her as I typed that. :) ... and as I typed the smile :)




I'm usually going to bed between 2-3 AM, waking at 8AM, except when I wake early. The need for a shorter amount if sleep seems to happen to many of us around age 45. I used to go to bed at 10 and wake a 2-4 AM, but lately I like the late night unwind more than I do morning meditations. I was up 'til 4 AM chatting with a friend last week, like I used to do in my 20s.


We talked sleep, anyone want to talk about how regular we are?
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With cannabis it's all regular, all the time. If it's not, one way or the other, that's what suppositories are for. Did that work Rad? :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
... and to change the subject... uhhem.....

A rant... a lighting rant!
A wonderful woman sent a piece of flotsam my way... an XML350 LED panel. Great light. When you consider the energy consumption and delivery efficiencies, it's really quite stunning.

LED manufacturers have really missed the boat on cooling configurations. They seem to drinking a bit of their own koolaid quite frankly. They've spent so much time focusing on how they run so much cooler than HID... and they totally do of course... but that doesn't mean that they're still not hot. They are hot.... quite hot. I measured the case at ~140f. My HPS cooltube body has been running at ~110f.
Of course, the HPS has an external power conversion piece (a.k.a. the ballast), so that heat can be generated and dissipated outside of the garden, and the LED manufacturers have simply not employed that configuration (mostly). Plus, they think their shit runs so cool that they don't even consider building the light so one could hook a vent tube up to it.
WTF guys? External cooling options and an external ballast would save energy in ANY warm garden. These two simple steps seem like an option EVERY light fixture should have.... including LEDs. The HID world has figured it out.... long ago. How have they missed such a simple and basic thing? I kinda wanna throttle them a touch.

Somewhere... sometime... one LED manufacturer will get the clue and build a unit that includes external cooling options and an external ballast. I hope it sells well.

Now.... I gotta figure some damn way to hook a vent tube up to my fancy new LED.... and same with the Mars units.
 
Norcaliwood said:
They are trying to take down my Greatgrandfather, Nathan Forrest's monument from a park in Memphis. their family even donated the land to the city for the park and him and his wife are buried there. They want to move both their bodies and statute. If I was abit younger I'd be back there to help save our heritage. Matter a fact I still pay dues to the Son's of the Confederacy. If you read that article, they even want to move a battle site??? People should know that war was about states rights, anyway you look at it. Whatever the catalyst was. Look now,, we are STILL battling for states rights over marijuana. Confederate States of Cannabis... Look Away [><] Keepem Green
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Then why is there no legal mj In the southeast ?? And states rights does not & never did give one human being the right to own another human being ! Sorry !!
 
Tead said:
... and to change the subject... uhhem.....

A rant... a lighting rant!
A wonderful woman sent a piece of flotsam my way... an XML350 LED panel. Great light. When you consider the energy consumption and delivery efficiencies, it's really quite stunning.

LED manufacturers have really missed the boat on cooling configurations. They seem to drinking a bit of their own koolaid quite frankly. They've spent so much time focusing on how they run so much cooler than HID... and they totally do of course... but that doesn't mean that they're still not hot. They are hot.... quite hot. I measured the case at ~140f. My HPS cooltube body has been running at ~110f.
Of course, the HPS has an external power conversion piece (a.k.a. the ballast), so that heat can be generated and dissipated outside of the garden, and the LED manufacturers have simply not employed that configuration (mostly). Plus, they think their shit runs so cool that they don't even consider building the light so one could hook a vent tube up to it.
WTF guys? External cooling options and an external ballast would save energy in ANY warm garden. These two simple steps seem like an option EVERY light fixture should have.... including LEDs. The HID world has figured it out.... long ago. How have they missed such a simple and basic thing? I kinda wanna throttle them a touch.

Somewhere... sometime... one LED manufacturer will get the clue and build a unit that includes external cooling options and an external ballast. I hope it sells well.

Now.... I gotta figure some damn way to hook a vent tube up to my fancy new LED.... and same with the Mars units.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Those big panels generating all that heat, and they claim they run cooler. :straightface: Great light though, and your plants will sing songs of greater trichomes. Have you seen what Shiggity is playing with these days? He's building his own bad-ass unit. Check it out Tead. It'll make your eyes glaze over. :laughtwo:

You're a brilliant man with a knack for DIY. I await the unveiling. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
I saw a COB LED build on YouTube and the guy used a long narrow aluminum heat sink, similar in shape to a four bulb T5 fixture. IDK why someone hasn't thought of it yet, but they can be mated to a register box on each side and tape the fins with aluminum tape to create channels for air to flow through. Even when the LED drivers are affixed to the heatsink, your traditional ducting would then be able to cool the panel. I'm really surprised I haven't seen anything like this on the interwebs.

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