Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis

Can a little piece of a successful cob be used to seed the good micro's in a new cob? What things may survive the process that could or will be passed on?
Just meds.. saving some fresh to eat cob, for re seed the start... brilliant. You need something anyway. Moist. You want..whatnthe cob...got...
Do add ..fresh fan leaf, or trim or green bean ends.. you’ll get there.
 
So how does she smoke? Well, I don't remember ever having the smoke come back and caress me. :rofl:

Oh guys, this is gonna take some adjusting to, don't you agree @Weaselcracker? :battingeyelashes: Days smoking GT..... It has to have occured to you how the rest of the buds that can't be rehydrated will be used as give-aways and pain creams. Lol!

Of course, in your world everything can be rehydrated, eh?
Sue..later would you summarize the best recipe for
Fresh bud
Cured bud.
Dry crappy bud...lol.osme got,to,know..

Sue. You have so much very cool weed .. .. xoxo joy
 
My question is "dried to what extent?" Even at 62% I have lots of flexibility in my buds.

Boveda pack figure? I've always thought of those as being more a convenience thing than a perfect target (so to speak). And that the best way to dry/cure was to keep one step ahead of mold. Again, "so to speak" - but illustrating my opinion that drying bud as slowly as possible was best. Seems like if you ask a real old fart how he cures bud, he just looks at you funny, because he "merely" dries his harvest at a significantly slower rate than most people do these days... and then sticks it into whatever thing he chooses to store it in, and calls it done. No checking/burping or any of that, just... done. And the old guy that I new... never disappointed when I visited him.

We stopped in the local Dollar General for milk and when asked to leave our bags at the front I declined the request and started back to the coolers, to be stopped and asked to leave the store. Evidently being treated like a suspected thief is a requirement to shop there. So I'll no longer be shopping there.

Haven't you heard? Punishing the innocent so that one doesn't have to spend a little effort in dealing with the guilty has become the New "American" Way.

I've heard of people getting told off - by LEO - when they reported a break-in of their automobile, for not having locked the vehicle up in a garage.

I once wrote a short (for me) story of a future time where the cops went around arresting people who did things like not locking their valuables into vaults. Couldn't get it published. I guess all the publishers figured the future of LEO was to become Corporate Cops.

The employee that firmly insisted on leaving is the daughter's partner. Hmmmm...

I'm not touching that one. But... Good luck.
 
This is just the paranoia in me speaking, rather than a criticism!



I like to stick links to government websites in between a set of CODE tags if the software supports such (as this one does), so that other 'noids don't end up accidentally accessing a government website without meaning to, and having as their "came from" data be a cannabis-related website. Like so:
Code:
https://pubag.nal.usda.gov/download/24757/PDF

Again, this is not criticism, as such.

Aside from that, lol, thank you for the link and information. Yes, there are many different varieties of yeast. I've gotten the impression that some are better than others for fermentation purposes. But home-brewers don't seem to reach for any random variety, though. I assume that there is probably one - or a very small number of - "best choice(s)" for cannabis fermentation and that, eventually, the variety or varieties might be figured out if enough experimentation is done.

I don't know how well (if at all) it relates to cannabis, but I found this article to be interesting:
Code:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/101/yeast/

BtW... IF I remember correctly, mold and yeast are both fungi, and the difference is: If it grows in multicellular filaments, it's a mold; and if it grows (or can grow) as single cells, it's a yeast. Which, if true, is kind of funny. We try to avoid the one but, apparently hope for the other, lol.



<SHUDDERS VIOLENTLY>



You know... Healthy people regularly encounter - and often consume - substances that could be harmful, even fatal to those with (for example) depressed/damaged immune systems. My lungs and bad tooth are probably like "ready to use" petri dishes (agar included). And cannabis is used by people with cancer and HIV/Aids.

In your reading, did you see any comments from people who have such issues, who've become "cob converts" without any negative effects from consuming them?

For those who are concerned, can anyone think of a good sterilization method for the finished product that won't be likely to damage either the cannabinoids or the terpenes?

Yes, your. Stomach contains.hydrochloric acid. Nothing much gets past it. Thankfully.
So best way , pim/ is close eyes/ tilt head /open mouth/insert material/ swallow/.
Rest is automoumous..



Tortured


Nice work.... the two correlate to aerobic and anaerobic processing.
Cob tangie ..has both. Hot wet oxygen. Seal. Up. No oxygen... generally oxygen is always a problem..except human respiratory...
 
Sue..later would you summarize the best recipe for
Fresh bud
Cured bud.
Dry crappy bud...lol.osme got,to,know..

Sue. You have so much very cool weed .. .. xoxo joy

It’s a joyful thing Marc. Lol! I planned to retire someday and stay high continuously, and here I am, doing just that.

If you’re asking about rehydrating, we’re still working that out. I’m liking this talk of including some fresh into the cob to recharge dried bud, but it’s still new talk.

I’m inclined at this point to agree with Tangwena that you’ll get the best results with fresher buds, but we’re driven to find a way to potentiate what we already had when we fell down this rabbit home.

Dry, crappy bud will make wonderful pain cream that you’ll write home about. :battingeyelashes:
 
And a thing of beauty it is, eh BigBear? Did you snag a small taster slice, by chance?

Here I am wandering the virtual halls in the middle of the night again, so I thought I’d go ahead and open the Devil’s Carnival cob before I went to bed.

Turned out the air in the apartment is so dry it took barely half an hour for the cob to surface dry. It was only slightly damp coming out, more sticky than damp, to be honest.

While it was drying out I took time to harvest a teeny slice for tomorrow morning and the day after.

She’s down another gram of water weight.






Isn’t it beautiful? :green_heart:


All sealed up for another week. The trimmings are in that little cup with the hygrometer perched on top. I’m checking the RH of those bits, which’re sitting at 50% and slowly going up. I’ll report back on it after sleep.
Ohhhh.thiose are nice. .

Sue.your connin is fresh or real nearly fresh buds? Yeah or nah..dry crap..lol/

Two/ did you get fucked with at foood store?
Turn the cheek or rip an asz??

Joys great... why at the closest food store. I ask .. whistfully..
Perhaps at 2 am.
Black top /black pants/ no hoodie // a backlava//.
For eggplant ..lol
 
It’s a joyful thing Marc. Lol! I planned to retire someday and stay high continuously, and here I am, doing just that.

If you’re asking about rehydrating, we’re still working that out. I’m liking this talk of including some fresh into the cob to recharge dried bud, but it’s still new talk.

I’m inclined at this point to agree with Tangwena that you’ll get the best results with fresher buds, but we’re driven to find a way to potentiate what we already had when we fell down this rabbit home.

Dry, crappy bud will make wonderful pain cream that you’ll write home about. :battingeyelashes:
Sue I told you that based upon fermenting science one page one.. ok

See the fresh bud, sue ..your gonna laugh.

If you look at grapes. To crush to ferment// just thatnpart.

Ok .. can flowers..yum.snip with fans trim intact.leave stem.
Put in some sweaty hit box....that’s the crush .makes ..juices. Stewing it’s own...hehe.
Ok then you sort out.rest.
Tie into cobs... like Malawi.. great.
Air pack.nice.
No Ganga n turds for sue... not in mud. Not anything...

Ok later.fermented weed.

The fresh weed.has the ‘’’’magic perfect yeast ‘.
So do moist cob..ettes//
 
In your reading, did you see any comments from people who have such issues, who've become "cob converts" without any negative effects from consuming them?

Hi TS,

Not particularly. I don't actually know any of these people. But they seem to be from all walks of life.

I am no professional but I believe cobs are relatively safe to consume as long as you retain clean cobbing practices..... you wouldn't sterilize glass cured cannabis before smoking it would you? Making it into tea could effectively clean it of any microbial life.... but if it is the botulism that scares you the toxin is killed by heat. !0 minutes of boiling decomposes the toxin. I don't worry about it but honestly it is hard to personally recommend eating it if you are at all worried. There is no science that shows that this is safe or not. I know that Tangwena and Sue and many others have eaten them with no harmful effects. Even though I have had very limited experience I will continue to make and chew cobs.

:green_heart:
 
Hi my friend very informative post you are on the right track. I dont think you can get good results from dry buds as you noted they are dead. Whatever is happening you need a live organism to start with.
All the cobs I have made are strong dozens of differing effects but all strong in their own way.

IMO you def need fresh grass. Yesterday I chewed some GT cob from 2016 and spent a very delightful couple of hours listening to music and rolling around on my yoga mat inside my head. Riding wave after wave of absolute ecstacy its hard to describe but it cleans all the bad karma and negative thoughts and leaves you in love with every living thing its my pic me up medicine.
Lady fish...

You make tangie here look like .bio ringer//.

More scuence......spelling twe
 
Hi TS,

Not particularly. I don't actually know any of these people. But they seem to be from all walks of life.

I am no professional but I believe cobs are relatively safe to consume as long as you retain clean cobbing practices..... you wouldn't sterilize glass cured cannabis before smoking it would you? Making it into tea could effectively clean it of any microbial life.... but if it is the botulism that scares you the toxin is killed by heat. !0 minutes of boiling decomposes the toxin. I don't worry about it but honestly it is hard to personally recommend eating it if you are at all worried. There is no science that shows that this is safe or not. I know that Tangwena and Sue and many others have eaten them with no harmful effects. Even though I have had very limited experience I will continue to make and chew cobs.

:green_heart:
Botulism.
Killed in first.strp with fresh harvest bud.
Living plant has about 0.000% chance of bot bug.
After steamy night in sues’s....box. Not spores...

Then , sorted.let yo rest.corn cobbed. Anerobiv/with steamed weed.mothing left.
.in Asia they bury par boiled eggs in mud/beach/swamp//I think it’s bs.. just saying. They eat old eggs fermented in shot.. what could possibly go wrong...sssszzzzzz.t
 
@TorturedSoul , TS, I think if you try to sterilize a cob you'll destroy whatever wonderful components you were hoping to benefit from.

Cannabinoids and terpenoids are known to boost the immune function. It's a risk you'll have to find a way through when the time comes.

I'm fairly certain the choice of banana leaf over corn husk was one of convienence in Malawi. Burying may have started in part as a biodynamic step, to infuse the power of the earth into the fermentation. Just a thought, I have no idea how it started. Men have been fermenting things for recreational use for as long as they've walked the earth. Lol!
 
The piece of gray and white vinyl that is actually roofing material:Namaste:

Oh yeah? That's one I wouldn't have thought of. Lol!
 
I have come to realize I have a canopy of new grape leaves , must a thousand. Leaves. So 10 each , 10mbatches to Mid East places.. 50 bucks. Deshabille buds. Check save

Grape leaves for the last step?
Sue a living .fesh araaomatic leave has to be the way to go.

Now that's an interesting thought to put away for future play Marc. Hadn't considered the value of a final wrap in something like a grape leaf.

So..... wanting to infuse some fresh life into less fresh buds......

How about simply tossing some fresh bud material, possibly some stem and fan leaf, bundled up in a piece of silk to keep it seperate but permit lots of airflow, into a big jar with the material you want to cob? Leave it sit together until it hits the humidity levels you desire.

In the back of my mind is a little voice telling me the fresh material would do more good if it was included into the drier stuff. This would be easier if you had a plant of the same chemovar you were trying to reinvigorate.
 
you wouldn't sterilize glass cured cannabis before smoking it would you?

You thought I was merely exercising my fingers, perhaps? :rolleyes:

I'm at the point where I just don't want any more pain. That's pretty much my sole motivation any more. Well, that and a familial duty that does not allow me the luxury of exiting stage left.

@TorturedSoul , TS, I think if you try to sterilize a cob you'll destroy whatever wonderful components you were hoping to benefit from.

Yeah, I was afraid that was the case (and kind of expected it to be). Sucks; I was hoping someone would have an idea - and that it would translate to regular non-molested bud.

I'm about through with all this pot crap anyway. It's rarely done much, and never done anything for more than a few minutes. It's just all a bunch of hope hope hope wait wait wait stress stress stress FUCKING DISAPPOINTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I've got disappointments aplenty that don't carry the risk of getting arrested. So, yeah, I'm about done.
 
Ok, now that we see there is a whole forest behind the tree we have been looking at, ya it was a nice one. Think of the other medical goodness's that could be placed next to, in, or during the process. Even designer cobs Infused with flavors.
 
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