Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis

[LVMarc42]

Sue,

Terpines redeax,

I’m intrigued by this. The wonder of terpene transmutation. Lol! That was obviously b-caryophyllene I was tasting. The peppery snap and burning sensation speaks to an abundance of this valuable anti-inflammatory.

I’ve yet to really grow Zamaldelica, but I have a quantity of seeds with Zamal crosses to choose from. I’ll be starting one in the not-too-distant future. I give away a lot of pain cream. Having an infused oil of Zamaldelica to back it up would be nice.

Having cobs for Sue..... even nicer.

...
Ok terpines are complex plant goodies.
Letchinthin simialrly, if not more promising for delivering tea.
Thc we are family with
Canna’s.
..leaf structures..

If you want thc and canna
That come off >75% in qwet.
No thermals.
No additional losses.
Using tincture supplies everything you seek?
The second qwet wash of the first batch;s residual, provides the rest of the thc, cannas, terpines, was.
It’s as dirty as you want it.
Sue the third wash is like boat tar. Spear it on bark to seal it. You do not want to ,consume this material.

Soooooo.. that full circle...
Again...

On cob.bing..

Sue brilliant thread. Think of the serendipity.
Ok, here some fodder.

I read you use bread soaked in water , ina conatianer.
May I suggest a slower and more controlled approach.?
Using plant materials.

The end trims of ;

Green beans
Asaprus tips. Broclii
About 2-7 grams of matter,
Ina “space”
With some bud
And left over space inside the box.so low fill ratio.
Not 6 lbs of shit in 4 pound box..lol
1/4 oz in a 1/2 pound box. Shoe box.
Go for higher temperature right at the start. Above 110- below 142. F. Why?

We want to energize the ‘good’ biology on the buds.
Moisture and heat energized everything.. sigh.....
Ok well,fool it.
Well start it ‘fast and hot.
Burn ,with after burners, for 36-72 hours.
Getting biological,growth.
Time limiting , molds, fungus , basically un-desirables

Be sure, in the pile of buds, above 60% Rh,
Mold and fungal,growth occurs.
So does sugar conversion.

The cat piss is sulphuric ammonia nitrogen,too..compounds..

This must be. The exhaust from the conversion of
Nitrogen /phosphate/ —leaf Structure....itno a gas...

Folks the stuff you want to remove. It doesn’t .disappear
No,trams muting here.
It’s fermented to a gas......... then you burp it.. it makes more for weeks.

Cure is a cure. ...cool wet cues with some stink too. Let’s you know you got action..
The cold, 42 f exactly, is lager beer temperature...why
Let yeast convert sugar. Limit biological growth.
Biological growth,is perpetually occurring. All places, surfaces every millisecond...less at 40 then at 80..

The worst temperatures for ‘ ure would then be
Best for biology.
75 f awful for curing buds... based upon this
Biological growth limit,, idea.
Maybe that’s why
A cold cure and a ? Arm moist one exist...

 

[JustMeds]

I can see a long colder cure in the fridge coming.....

 

[TorturedSoul]

I am using some of my precious up load quota on this so you better be impressed ha ha

Impressed? I just scratched away at my screen on the off chance that the maintainer of my linux distro had sent a "scratch and sniff" enhancement upgrade without telling us, lol. (Sadly... no. But that's probably for the best, for had it been otherwise, my next step would probably have involved a lighter .)

Nice bud-- err... cob porn.

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• JustMeds
• Mar 30, 2018

Ahh, triple beam scale. Never get rid of that. About the only way to mess that thing up... is with a hammer. No batteries required! And no trying to do a balancing act on a postage-sized platform, either.

Sue the third wash is like boat tar. Spear it on bark to seal it. You do not want to ,consume this material.

So... the multi-week soaks that I used to do with anhydrous acetone probably did not create a very healthy product, lol? (Tasted like fish and sausage, IIRC.)

And here I had managed to convince myself that it was all the years of working in / wearing / breathing methyl ethyl ketone and other (less pleasant ) chemicals that put me in this shape. Well... Yeah, and the cigarettes, of course. I'm thinking, even without all the industrial crap I encountered in trying to paying a bill or two, it's probably a wonder that I'm not in even worse shape. And as to the work-related stuff... My ex-wife once complained that I was exhaling MEK when I woke up in the mornings. So... I guess all the cannabis I've smoked to date might be the only reason I'm still above ground .

Your mention of extractions... Has anyone done bud from the same plant (and as comparable as possible) two ways - the usual method and this cob thing - and then later done extractions on both, in order to compare the two? I'm wondering if there might be a noticeable difference there, too.

 

[JustMeds]

TS,

KISS principal..... The Yin and Yang balance.

 

[SweetSue]

I can see a long colder cure in the fridge coming.....

Ha! Low and slo meet Tangwena.

 

[SweetSue]

Impressed? I just scratched away at my screen on the off chance that the maintainer of my linux distro had sent a "scratch and sniff" enhancement upgrade without telling us, lol. (Sadly... no. But that's probably for the best, for had it been otherwise, my next step would probably have involved a lighter .)

Nice bud-- err... cob porn.



Ahh, triple beam scale. Never get rid of that. About the only way to mess that thing up... is with a hammer. No batteries required! And no trying to do a balancing act on a postage-sized platform, either.



So... the multi-week soaks that I used to do with anhydrous acetone probably did not create a very healthy product, lol? (Tasted like fish and sausage, IIRC.)

And here I had managed to convince myself that it was all the years of working in / wearing / breathing methyl ethyl ketone and other (less pleasant ) chemicals that put me in this shape. Well... Yeah, and the cigarettes, of course. I'm thinking, even without all the industrial crap I encountered in trying to paying a bill or two, it's probably a wonder that I'm not in even worse shape. And as to the work-related stuff... My ex-wife once complained that I was exhaling MEK when I woke up in the mornings. So... I guess all the cannabis I've smoked to date might be the only reason I'm still above ground .

Your mention of extractions... Has anyone done bud from the same plant (and as comparable as possible) two ways - the usual method and this cob thing - and then later done extractions on both, in order to compare the two? I'm wondering if there might be a noticeable difference there, too.

Sooner or later we’ll be testing TS. We’re new to the game. Kickinitup1 and Canyon showed us the power of combining the forces for focused testing. When we get there that might be a good place for a spin-off thread.

 

[TorturedSoul]

Yes, I keep forgetting that this is not a quick procedure.

 

[SweetSue]

Yes, I keep forgetting that this is not a quick procedure.

None of us is happy that it takes so long to get to the gold ring. Haha!

 

[SweetSue]

Sue,

Terpines redeax,




...
Ok terpines are complex plant goodies.
Letchinthin simialrly, if not more promising for delivering tea.
Thc we are family with
Canna’s.
..leaf structures..

If you want thc and canna
That come off >75% in qwet.
No thermals.
No additional losses.
Using tincture supplies everything you seek?
The second qwet wash of the first batch;s residual, provides the rest of the thc, cannas, terpines, was.
It’s as dirty as you want it.
Sue the third wash is like boat tar. Spear it on bark to seal it. You do not want to ,consume this material.

Soooooo.. that full circle...
Again...

On cob.bing..

Sue brilliant thread. Think of the serendipity.
Ok, here some fodder.

I read you use bread soaked in water , ina conatianer.
May I suggest a slower and more controlled approach.?
Using plant materials.

The end trims of ;

Green beans
Asaprus tips. Broclii
About 2-7 grams of matter,
Ina “space”
With some bud
And left over space inside the box.so low fill ratio.
Not 6 lbs of shit in 4 pound box..lol
1/4 oz in a 1/2 pound box. Shoe box.
Go for higher temperature right at the start. Above 110- below 142. F. Why?

We want to energize the ‘good’ biology on the buds.
Moisture and heat energized everything.. sigh.....
Ok well,fool it.
Well start it ‘fast and hot.
Burn ,with after burners, for 36-72 hours.
Getting biological,growth.
Time limiting , molds, fungus , basically un-desirables

Be sure, in the pile of buds, above 60% Rh,
Mold and fungal,growth occurs.
So does sugar conversion.

The cat piss is sulphuric ammonia nitrogen,too..compounds..

This must be. The exhaust from the conversion of
Nitrogen /phosphate/ —leaf Structure....itno a gas...

Folks the stuff you want to remove. It doesn’t .disappear
No,trams muting here.
It’s fermented to a gas......... then you burp it.. it makes more for weeks.

Cure is a cure. ...cool wet cues with some stink too. Let’s you know you got action..
The cold, 42 f exactly, is lager beer temperature...why
Let yeast convert sugar. Limit biological growth.
Biological growth,is perpetually occurring. All places, surfaces every millisecond...less at 40 then at 80..

The worst temperatures for ‘ ure would then be
Best for biology.
75 f awful for curing buds... based upon this
Biological growth limit,, idea.
Maybe that’s why
A cold cure and a ? Arm moist one exist...

The bread was fresh, not deliberately wet. I shy from adding water into the process, but hey.... hadn’t thought of a bundle of fresh greens suspended above the dry buds. Hmmm....

Marc, you’re more experienced with the science behind the process, even if we’re still only guessing. Do you think the bread would let that moisture out faster than the greens? I had no problem adequately rehydrating an ounce with a single fresh slice, so I’m thinking it might work better.

 

[SweetSue]

To rehydrate I use a jar that has twice as much open space as the buds I’m beefing up, the same jar I use to pull the moisture out with rice.

 

[SweetSue]

@JustMeds , BOOM!

Blue Dream. Damn! I’m down to about a quarter. .......... On the list for a quick start. I’m planning a trip to San Diego in May and I’m trying to figure out if I can stop entirely before I leave. I’m switching to all hempy. It feels like a good breaking point but the garden feels dark without something in veg.

I’m making the list for the next run. Not enough space, and I flower up to 8. Lol!

 

[lazyfish]

@tangwena

That is a sexy cob.

Is that black cob only 22 days old? Was is the standard procedure that is in the chart that everyone uses? Is it done and being dried, now?

 

[LVMarc42]

The bread was fresh, not deliberately wet. I shy from adding water into the process, but hey.... hadn’t thought of a bundle of fresh greens suspended above the dry buds. Hmmm....

Marc, you’re more experienced with the science behind the process, even if we’re still only guessing. Do you think the bread would let that moisture out faster than the greens? I had no problem adequately rehydrating an ounce with a single fresh slice, so I’m thinking it might work better.

I like slow release of moisture from something.
Veggie scraps have been proven, by so many government studies, to be a communal,source, and its sustainable. Green water..,tm..t shirt . ..this ones for ts...

I don’t like bread as the host.
The ‘bread yeast’ dead at the bake. Forget that.
The starchy and sugar and ..not good for the bad biology limitations in general.

Sue, the biology ,,,bugs.. good ones. Bad ones right/// they eat what we do...
They like 75 f too
They love moist.
I like dry, I’m a desert rat,
I don’t need chap stick , ever o Rh .@0c . Nice.. if sunny..

Use a sponge . Like 2 inches square ina shoe box size.


Btw, you know when you go,to
SCALE UP;;

TRUST ME SCALING UP,, A LOT, OR SHRINKING A LOT.....DOES NOT AT ALL EVER WORK..

So batches of curing would be the way to handle many ounces. Of course I never have that problem..


Bud requiring cured, doesn’t need water to touch it..certain. Air fries first..for awhile..
Used to be ‘lager’ ...cold moist.only way frankly..

Now..yahoo. Not exactly tradional Malawi , ...at all.
But it’s; based on ancient Malawi/Rasta ritua....l.
This is the week
End
For rituals..

 

[tangwena]

@tangwena

That is a sexy cob.

Is that black cob only 22 days old? Was is the standard procedure that is in the chart that everyone uses? Is it done and being dried, now?

Its 2.30 am over here and the cob I chewed at 5pm is still working but then I knew it would ha ha.
Yes that was 22 days since harvest. The guy who made it is Redeye24/7 he just took to it like a fish to water he has a perpetual grow going and had a regular harvest. He came up with new cobs a bricks cured differently just about every week!
I will post some more of his work when I get back to the city its very popular and has opened a lot of doors for him.
He has a lot of contacts due to sharing his cobs at canna clubs his last post I saw was that as soon as he lit up at one club he was invited to the VIP lounge and made some African and Rasta guys very happy.
Its his ticket to the front row seats every time.
He was constantly tweaking the standard procedure god knows what he does these days but you can bet its good.
That was done a year or so ago and consumed very fast once he got into fermenting his weed he went all out.
I have some pics of slabs and bricks he made awesome stuff you can tell it was dynamite without even testing it.

 

[lazyfish]

OK is he the one that had the square press? Cobs came out looking like a slice of bread (thick bread...).

 

[SweetSue]

I didn't have any cob today, for those anticipating a report. I spent the day in the delightful company of my daughter. Didn't even do more than drench and run in the garden.

I believe tomorrow's the day I get my first taste of the Devil's Carnival cob. Wait, let me check.....

Well I'll be damned...how did I miss that?

Devil’s Carnival cob

• SweetSue
• Mar 30, 2018

Coulda had that yesterday. Geez.... Lol! That'll be tomorrow's treat. I'll save the Jamaican bits for another day. I'll post pictures when I open her up in the morning. Right now I really gotta find some food. Lol!

 

[LVMarc42]

I see..said the blind man...

Sue, the nugget shown.
Sealed like that.
Air tight.
After some sweaty n steamy ... post pluck/ ore-cure.

Ok so no,air..oxygen.

Anaerobic environment.

Thus then limits aerobic biological growth.

....converts this to,that....using heat and pressure //gasification...

 

[SweetSue]

I see..said the blind man...

Sue, the nugget shown.
Sealed like that.
Air tight.
After some sweaty n steamy ... post pluck/ ore-cure.

Ok so no,air..oxygen.

Anaerobic environment.

Thus then limits aerobic biological growth.

....converts this to,that....using heat and pressure //gasification...

Marc, I love talking to you. You make it worth the effort to translate what you write into something I understand.

Ok, so what’s going on is the heat and pressure, in concert with the lack of O2 is creating gaseous changes that are somehow making these cannabinoids and terpenes create a euphoric experience bordering on orgasmic hallucinations?

 

[nivek]

The bread was fresh, not deliberately wet. I shy from adding water into the process, but hey.... hadn’t thought of a bundle of fresh greens suspended above the dry buds. Hmmm....

Marc, you’re more experienced with the science behind the process, even if we’re still only guessing. Do you think the bread would let that moisture out faster than the greens? I had no problem adequately rehydrating an ounce with a single fresh slice, so I’m thinking it might work better.

MMight I inquire,,?

I feel an inquire is required.

SSO, might I inquire as to why one,, or two, does not use a bit o bud from a near harvest ready, or perhaps even not so near harvest ready plant to rehydrate an ounce of bud to eighty percentish?

SSeems adding bread moisture, or lemon moisture, or any foreign moisture would only dilute the finished product,, and contaminate as well, if one calls introducing foreign matter contamination, which I might

WWeaseley might have raised similar inquiries, as required

SSimple inquisetness and curiosity drives my inquirey, is all

SSo many thanks its silly

 

[nivek]

Or, since corn husk will be added to the mixture shortly anyhoo, perhaps corn might be a logical rehydrater??