Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis


I'm going with the 0.5 gr piece. :battingeyelashes:
.5! Damn girl. Ridddeee the wavvee~~~~ yes.... I definitely AM excited by the cobb stuff! Hurry up and wait!! Mmhhmmm.....no prob Be silly NOT to try this in near future.
 
Ah, but the vault is gone, kaput, incinerated, finis. It took awhile, but we managed it. :bongrip: You've decided that old bud can be cobbed?

What??:eek:
Nah..Not Graytails vault. (I saw pics once) Jars that go on and on like the bricks in the yellow brick road.
You MUST have had help. Lots of help:yummy:
 
I'm just starting to play with Sativa's... It's my understanding, that it can be a common trait with some sativa strains...I did not cob the Malawi,considering the change it went through... Have four cobs each of purple MX and Incredible bulk sweating in the dehydrator now...24 hours will be be late afternoon Manana...cheerz... h00k...:rollit:

WooHoo! :yahoo: hook's got cobs going. :slide:

Guys......I have to say..... It thrills me that this group went all in. :circle-of-love:
 
Hi Folks,

I echo the sentiment, Sue. I have been obsessing over cobs a bit lately and the thread just keeps going with more and more new people. SO many new people! I have looked at 5 new grow journals just today and absolutely love this network we have here. You are all beautiful.

So I rehydrated buds for another few cobs of the Dr Grinspoon. I should have done another three and let it sweat for longer... but it will give me something to do tomorrow....

Anyways...

I rehydrated again by spraying water on the buds and then sweated them for 48 hours at 104 Fahrenheit. I opened it once at 24 hours to see if I wanted it to go longer and after the one I did a few weeks ago I decided that it needed more time. I noticed an odd orangish color around the canary bud. The first round of cobs did the same thing but I thought it might have been from the string or husks or something and didn't really pay too much attention to it. Sort of an orange halo around one of the cobs - turns out it was the Dr Grinspoon that I sweated here.

Canary bud:







The close ups look like they are amber trichomes that have burst. I think I will do a longer sweat next time and I will do a bigger canary cob.

And my cobs!


Peace and :green_heart:
 
Wow, that's a lot of amber lazyfish. Lol! I take mine down at the first sight of anything beginning to turn amber. :rofl:

Do you think a sweat needs to go longer than 48 hours? It's intent it to kickstart the fermentation process. In my mind it makes more sense to do a 24 hour sweat and then increase both fermentation temps and time, but I'm far from an expert on this one.
 
I'm far from an expert on this one.
I know what you mean. I am just trying to get a grasp of the process and what is going on.

I just don't feel like I am getting the signs of a good sweat. I guess I am just playing around with the longer sweat times. Like Tangwena said it is going to have to be something that we see and small ourselves. He has also said that cobbing dried buds gives sub par cobs. They also have not cured for nearly long enough to reach the potential that he describes so we are definitely jumping the gun... ...but I am antsy and have dry buds to play with so I play... It is still fun and I feel like I am learning. AND the cobs that I have produced taste great, still get me high, and I will smoke them as much as I will smoke the glass cured buds.

:)
 
Hi Folks,

I echo the sentiment, Sue. I have been obsessing over cobs a bit lately and the thread just keeps going with more and more new people. SO many new people! I have looked at 5 new grow journals just today and absolutely love this network we have here. You are all beautiful.

So I rehydrated buds for another few cobs of the Dr Grinspoon. I should have done another three and let it sweat for longer... but it will give me something to do tomorrow....

Anyways...

I rehydrated again by spraying water on the buds and then sweated them for 48 hours at 104 Fahrenheit. I opened it once at 24 hours to see if I wanted it to go longer and after the one I did a few weeks ago I decided that it needed more time. I noticed an odd orangish color around the canary bud. The first round of cobs did the same thing but I thought it might have been from the string or husks or something and didn't really pay too much attention to it. Sort of an orange halo around one of the cobs - turns out it was the Dr Grinspoon that I sweated here.

Canary bud:







The close ups look like they are amber trichomes that have burst. I think I will do a longer sweat next time and I will do a bigger canary cob.

And my cobs!


Peace and :green_heart:

Woah....
Nothing like a saequnce photo spread. With magnification... classy..
 
I know what you mean. I am just trying to get a grasp of the process and what is going on.

I just don't feel like I am getting the signs of a good sweat. I guess I am just playing around with the longer sweat times. Like Tangwena said it is going to have to be something that we see and small ourselves. He has also said that cobbing dried buds gives sub par cobs. They also have not cured for nearly long enough to reach the potential that he describes so we are definitely jumping the gun... ...but I am antsy and have dry buds to play with so I play... It is still fun and I feel like I am learning. AND the cobs that I have produced taste great, still get me high, and I will smoke them as much as I will smoke the glass cured buds.

:)

Hahaha! Tangwena's turned us all into mad scientists. :rofl:
 
I was soooo high all day long. Lol! I know I'm going to enjoy these cobs because I have an almost unnatural appreciation for the stratospheric buzz.

I didn't get any euphoria from the Jamaican canary, but it felt like every time I fired up or ingested it hit harder. Could be my imagination, but there were numerous occasions when I stopped and thought "Damn, I'm high!" :rofl:
 
Hello ts.

Hi, Marc. I'd like to apologize for being a bit of a <BLEEP> earlier. I hadn't intended to be, but then I read over what I had typed and... I'm sorry if I gave offense.

I wholeheartedly agree that resin is crap. And I haven't smoked accumulated resin (from cleaning out a bowl) since I was a stupid kid.

But I just never stopped to think about such things, when it comes to joints. Except for when I was lucky enough to still be blessed with full jars at (the next) harvest time, I've always smoked my joints right down to that last tiny bit of paper that goes <POOF> and turns to ash upon the breeze. As have others I know. I have had to repeatedly grab the lighter when doing so.

I'm not proud of it, but I tend to do the same thing with cigarettes. Or else I'll end up picking the butts apart for that tiny amount of nastiness stuck to the scorched filter and using it to stuff my little glass "two-hitter."

I've been trying to get into using a tiny bong and comparably-sized bubbler. But they seem to be significantly better at filtering out cannabinoids than at filtering out toxins and particulate matter. I really should vaporize instead of smoke. But I like to get high as well as medicate! I will at least think seriously about trying to stop smoking 100% of any joints I roll in the future when I once again have a little cannabis. These lungs sure aren't going to get any better - and if they get much worse, I suspect I'll end up having a reunion with Dad even sooner than I expect to.

Sue, the terpines profile is marked..
the real terpy .citrus smell// n strawberry / .. I am attracted to those..instantly.

That, IMHO, is important - and not solely for any concrete medicinal benefits that they may provide. Since I've met Sue, I have come to realize that the buzz is very much affected by things like one's mental state. (A bad example, lol, but an example: If I am lucky enough to get high, but then go directly into the throne room and hop on the toilet, my buzz is gone before the first... splash. I do not believe this is a physical thing; rather, IMHO, the situation is just a mental buzz-kill.) I think one's mental and emotional state is as much responsible for why the first buzz out of a bag seems to be such a nice one as factors like eventual tolerance and "strain burnout" are. If someone hasn't been high in a while, and knows they're going to get there, well... the happy anticipation adds to the eventual effect (again, IMHO).

Tangwena: Ever hear about or experience a strain called Black Magic, Black Magic African, or Black African? I read an article ("Strains of Yesteryear") written by DJ Short, in which he described it by stating "It looked like rotted, black leaf, some leaves intact but crumpled, plus a powdery black shake. It had no particular odor other than sweet spicy moldy hay" which would tend to cause one to think very little of it. But he then described it as the strongest ever, dangerous!, "this stuff alone could cause one to reach 3.5 pluses on the Shulgin psychedelic rating scale!"... and "This was truly the most devastating and consciously inebriating herb I have ever smoked."

Which was more than enough to catch this person's interest.

Apologies for the lack of on-topic content. I'll try to think of something next time ;) .
 
Thinking outside box here......

Take a small dried bud. Place it on top of say a.... glass measuring cup placed upside down in a pressure cooker. Place about equal weight of water in bottom of cooker. Seal up tight. Place on stove for 5-10 minutes leave to cool naturally and slowly till safe to open. Thoughts are the pressure and steam may push some moisture back into bud. I would do a very small amount to try it. Not sure if it would work. Sounds like it may.

I've thought about trying to use my pressure canner to somehow seal (cured) bud up in jars, but feared that the low moisture content within them would cause this thing to fail.

I'd be interested in learning of the results of your experiment.

BtW, at one (additional) atmosphere of pressure over (sea-level) ambient, the temperature inside a pressure cooker/canner should reach 250°F / ~121.1°C - so I would expect whatever bud you stick in there to be fully decarboxylated when you pull it out, regardless of its state when it goes in. Especially with the combination of heat plus pressure.

But that is just a guess, for as I mentioned, I have never performed such an experiment.

In terms of this "cob thing," I am wondering if it would help facilitate it - or cause it to not work (in regards to getting the hoped-for, traditional result). Then again, it might leave you with "ready to gnaw" product in just a few short minutes, lol. . . .
 
Ts..I know your pain with a woman, lost to you.

I must have given the wrong impression. Do not think "companion," rather... party-favor.

She was not a ‘Stripper’

But some people get offended at the use of the term "whore."

Speaking of which, I did have a somewhat... complicated relationship much more recently with a lady of the night. I didn't go see her only when I was bored and failed to think of anything more palatable to err... do, this was a woman I took out to dinner, stopped at my place afterwards - and it was almost six weeks to the day before she left, other than to grab some clothes from her place, :rolleyes: . I'd known her for a while before that, and really thought of her more as a friend who needed a friend than anything else. I don't care what others called her, that girl was a stripper. She could strip your bank account dry in two-point-five seconds ;) . Well... She'd have been digging up dirt before she ever found any money around me, but I kind of kept track of her a bit, and it was not really unusual for her to <COUGH>blow<COUGH> $2,500 in one week (had a little habit).

Yes, she was gorgeous - and talented. But she wasn't supporting her... expenses working about 18 hours/week by dancing.

Surprisingly, she quit when I suggested that her life might improve if she did (and then I began to allow myself to become closer, to my eventual... well, regret might not be the correct term. Misery, though...). Quitting the things that she was spending the money on, though... I think I'd sooner walk through a house that was on fire than to have to help someone through that again. She has been in private care for some time now. Her issues were not all of the chemical kind (very few of them, actually).

Italian car racing rule’’’’
Re rear view mirror

What’s a , behind me me...”

“ it’s not importantante’’

I think we might have been great friends (or killed one another in some unique and interesting way ;) ), had we been neighbors.

Get back i there and think this through.....

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Hey, dr.h00k, what was it that Butch (RiP) used to type? Because the above hit me from nowhere and left me with tears. IDK why, but it did.

BtW, I'm glad to see that you and the Missus made it back in one piece (err... each ;) ).

@dr.h00k they have said the ammonia smell is not a good thing.

I took it to mean that it would not be a good thing in the finished product, but that if it was present at some point during the process, it was just a thing. But I have not done this stuff yet, and my understanding of it is, I suspect, poor. So IDK.

Cat piss can also be a characteristic aroma of cannabis.

Man, these traitorous eyes! At first, I thought you had typed charismatic. I thought, "WtF???"

Sue re the yeast- I don't know much about fermentation or for sure if that's what we are doing with the cobs- or what is involved besides yeasts. Probably other microorganisms, bacteria, enzymes?
I do brew wine and beer though and do know that wild yeasts are everywhere and in everything. Freezing kills them- but Im thinking a curing jar situation sure wouldn't.

I don't know whether it would help with the process (or possibly even enhance it in some way) or not, but I would not think it would be harmful, in and of itself, if someone added it and then later ate the bud. I used to give brewer's yeast to cats now and then. Seemed to help with their skin and fur, and the B vitamin content is a good supplement for most off-the-shelf cat food. OtOH, although somewhat rare, a cat can be allergic to the stuff. I suppose the same could be said for people, so one might wish to try a (tiny) amount of it by itself before adding it to one's bud, just to make sure it causes no issues.

I rehydrated again by spraying water on the buds and then sweated them for 48 hours at 104 Fahrenheit. I opened it once at 24 hours to see if I wanted it to go longer and after the one I did a few weeks ago I decided that it needed more time. I noticed an odd orangish color around the canary bud. The first round of cobs did the same thing but I thought it might have been from the string or husks or something and didn't really pay too much attention to it. Sort of an orange halo around one of the cobs - turns out it was the Dr Grinspoon that I sweated here.

Is it just me, or do some of the pictures in your post seem reminiscent of what one gets if one has a small bud, a piece of parchment paper, a hair straightener, and the willingness to put them all together and stand on the combination for about 30 seconds?

IOW, is that orange(?) residue smokable, lol? If so... well, it's a shame that it has left the bud - but it ought to provide its own solace ;) .

I hadn't expected to see anything like that. I had assumed that it would take a higher temperature than what y'all are using to cause anything to flow (like syrup, maybe, but...). I try to learn something every day. Most often, though, I learn how ignorant I am.
 
Tangwena: Ever hear about or experience a strain called Black Magic, Black Magic African, or Black African? I read an article ("Strains of Yesteryear") written by DJ Short, in which he described it by stating "It looked like rotted, black leaf, some leaves intact but crumpled, plus a powdery black shake. It had no particular odor other than sweet spicy moldy hay" which would tend to cause one to think very little of it. But he then described it as the strongest ever, dangerous!, "this stuff alone could cause one to reach 3.5 pluses on the Shulgin psychedelic rating scale!"... and "This was truly the most devastating and consciously inebriating herb I have ever smoked."
I am using some of my precious up load quota on this so you better be impressed ha ha
Here is another before and after by a seriously able curer on another forum I hope he dosen't mind me showing his work off ha ha
We were trying to reproduce Congo Black cobs sticky black cobs the stuff you were talking about was probably dried pieces from a broken up cob.
This is a seriously mind melting cure depending of course on the type of bud used.
 
Hi Folks,

I echo the sentiment, Sue. I have been obsessing over cobs a bit lately and the thread just keeps going with more and more new people. SO many new people! I have looked at 5 new grow journals just today and absolutely love this network we have here. You are all beautiful.

So I rehydrated buds for another few cobs of the Dr Grinspoon. I should have done another three and let it sweat for longer... but it will give me something to do tomorrow....

Anyways...

I rehydrated again by spraying water on the buds and then sweated them for 48 hours at 104 Fahrenheit. I opened it once at 24 hours to see if I wanted it to go longer and after the one I did a few weeks ago I decided that it needed more time. I noticed an odd orangish color around the canary bud. The first round of cobs did the same thing but I thought it might have been from the string or husks or something and didn't really pay too much attention to it. Sort of an orange halo around one of the cobs - turns out it was the Dr Grinspoon that I sweated here.

Canary bud:







The close ups look like they are amber trichomes that have burst. I think I will do a longer sweat next time and I will do a bigger canary cob.

And my cobs!


Peace and :green_heart:
Hi man were those from re hydrated buds? Not bad I will be interested if its made a big difference to the smoke I dont think I have had many reports on re hydrated weed.
I would be surprised if its as good as fresh buds but we live and learn, here's fingers crossed it blows your mind.
 
I’m intrigued by this. The wonder of terpene transmutation. Lol! That was obviously b-caryophyllene I was tasting. The peppery snap and burning sensation speaks to an abundance of this valuable anti-inflammatory.

I’ve yet to really grow Zamaldelica, but I have a quantity of seeds with Zamal crosses to choose from. I’ll be starting one in the not-too-distant future. I give away a lot of pain cream. Having an infused oil of Zamaldelica to back it up would be nice.

Having cobs for Sue..... even nicer. :battingeyelashes:


Zamal crosses (and itself ) I've grown in Docs kit...theyre limey...great strain, IMO. :ganjamon:
 
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