Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis

[Stage]

Hehe!
You right Sue. I AM doing this.

How lovely is it that I found my dehydrator, sushi bamboo rollers, seedling heat mat and Foodsaver.

Sugar,
You have no parachute on and I'm running behind you with both hands in the air.

Oh, I think more than “...just may..” OMG Stage, you’re gonna love this. And I haven’t gotten to the cure yet. Lol!

Tangwena suggests weekly checks, accompanied by a test - of course - and letting the cobs and canaries dry to the touch each time.

 

[TorturedSoul]

I put a note in my calander TS. I'll text you.

Thank you very much. This gives me additional motivation to do the seeds tomorrow (today; LATE today ).

I found it deliciously speedy, without the nasty things that come with actual pharmaceutical speed, which no sane woman in her early sixties would play with. Lol! It's been decades since I last dabbled in pills.

Good. You have a wonderful heart, and it would be a shame if it exploded.

I lived and breathed... accelerants for years. Then one day I went to the doctor. He said my heart was in great shape - for a 70-year old. Think I was about 29. I quit eating (various forms of) speed like it was candy at that point. Eventually, I pretty much stopped the other type of it, too.

I do still love a good sativa, though. Brings back memories of my childhood :LOL: .

The people who said - and, occasionally, still say - that cannabis is a gateway drug, they have it completely backwards, IMHO. Cannabis never caused me to do other drugs. It was a valuable tool that helped me STOP a number of them.

Time and temperature are the factors at play with decarb. What happens in this fermentation stage that accelerates the process?

Well, it IS a chemical process. As is decarboxylation, removing the COOH group from the THCA molecule by releasing H₂O and CO₂. When I asked about smelling ammonia earlier in the thread, and someone (IIRC) stated they smelled it at some point in the process... that indicates that NH₃ was being released. It could be that some of the hydrogen that makes up ammonia came from the THC-A. It's been... over 30 years since I took a chemistry class. Someone else can do a little speculative math, lol.

 

[SweetSue]

3:49 AM. Still awake. Hell.....this stuff is better than I imagined.

“Accelerants...”. Yeah, we could call it that. Lol!

I didn’t do enough speed to damage me TS. Not enough money, to be honest, but that turned out to be a blessing, didn’t it? This is safer, and more fun.

 

[SweetSue]

Let me try this sleep thing again. Hehe!

 

[TorturedSoul]

Play a Neil deGrasse Tyson video, those can put ME to sleep when the pain level is manageable - and I think astrophysics is cooler than liquid helium. If someone is easily bored by such subjects, they might need a person to come in after about 35 minutes to make sure they still have a pulse .

Speaking of which... Time to queue a couple episodes of Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey. . . .

 

[repuk]

GG has great success with the ND Sap, something none of us was able to replicate so far. Isn't this why cured is better than fresh? Time and temperature are the factors at play with decarb. What happens in this fermentation stage that accelerates the process?

I think BigBearNTexas and TorturedSoul pointed to it:

Well, it IS a chemical process. As is decarboxylation, removing the COOH group from the THCA molecule by releasing H₂O and CO₂. When I asked about smelling ammonia earlier in the thread, and someone (IIRC) stated they smelled it at some point in the process... that indicates that NH₃ was being released. It could be that some of the hydrogen that makes up ammonia came from the THC-A. It's been... over 30 years since I took a chemistry class. Someone else can do a little speculative math, lol.

Ammonia smell is not a good indicator, guess a subtle one is OK, to me ammonia = mold.

I'm no organic chemistry expert by any means, but I think what we're after is:

In the absence of heat, my guess is that one or more of the byproducts of fermentation is helping with the conversion. We want to remove a carbon from the THCa, adding extra hydrogen in the form of lactic acid may cause methane or ethane to develop. There may also be enzymatic reactions that happen, that help break that carbon off.

This is what should ideally happen when the method is successful. I correlate smell of "ripeness" with ethanol and "sickly" sweetness to the lactic acid.

I think in the end what we are doing is forcing a global ripening process by induced fermentation.

 

[SweetSue]

That makes sense repuk. We’ll eventually have some testing done and we’ll have a better understanding.

Tangwena suggests my dose yesterday was a bit on the high scale - he tries for somewhere in the range of 0.1 to 0.35 grams. We also accept that chewing this early isn’t going to give me the true effects curing will.

We all know I’ll have to try again today, for science you understand. Lol! That was one wild ride and SweetSue wants to do that again.

Big surprise, I’m sure. I’ll give it a go with 0.3 grams after I get back from lunch with the seniors.

Guys......wow! I can’t wait to crack it open next week.

I just checked, and the cobs aren’t dry to the touch yet. It feels like another day may do it. I’m sure this part of the process is going to be cob-dependent. I’d think denser buds would hold more moisture within and may take longer to surface dry.

Today I’ll do my best to get some documentation worked out. I do love designing another form.

@lazyfish , what happened with your cobs? Are they curing now? Have you reached the one-week mark to test yet? You should be running a couple days ahead of me.

 

[Canna Montana]

I thought I already came here and commented. It must be my tired brain telling me ive been here already. Sigh. Morning Sue!

 

[SweetSue]

I thought I already came here and commented. It must be my tired brain telling me ive been here already. Sigh. Morning Sue!

You were here Baby. It’s me. Lol!

For after lunch.

Today’s taste.

• SweetSue
• Mar 20, 2018

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Corn husks are on my shopping list

I better do so reading

 

[SweetSue]

Corn husks are on my shopping list

I better do so reading

Feel free to call if you need clarification. This may be more buzzed than you prefer Chris, but you won’t know until you try.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Feel free to call if you need clarification. This may be more buzzed than you prefer Chris, but you won’t know until you try.

I don't mind a BIG BUZZ, when I want it

Plus, how do u think ACDC would be with this process @SweetSue

 

[SweetSue]

I don't mind a BIG BUZZ, when I want it

Plus, how do u think ACDC would be with this process @SweetSue

I wouldn’t venture a guess at this time Chris. We don't yet have any real experience with the CBD strains. Please make one so we can find out.

The cobs are dry to the touch. It’s gotten colder overnight and the furnace has been sucking the humidity from the air. They’re tucked away for the first week.

Malawi cobs

• SweetSue
• Mar 20, 2018

Ready for the first week of cure

Malawi cobs

• SweetSue
• Mar 20, 2018

Open in one week

I’m chewing my 0.3 grams right now, getting ready to spit it into tea and milk.

 

[SweetSue]

Somehow I got my weights wrong. The smaller cob is weighing 12 grams and the larger one is 20 grams. The canaries are both 10 grams at this stage. It looks like I did that small cob at a half ounce.

Not that this matters much, but it’ll give me a good feel for what happens when you only cob a half ounce.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

I'll try the ACDC and maybe a blueberry or c99x blueberry

Interesting indeed

 

[SweetSue]

Hehe!
You right Sue. I AM doing this.

How lovely is it that I found my dehydrator, sushi bamboo rollers, seedling heat mat and Foodsaver.

Sugar,
You have no parachute on and I'm running behind you with both hands in the air.

Hehehe! You know me well Stage.

 

[SweetSue]

I get really absorbed in the magazine and studying, so I periodically have to make myself look around or get up to judge the level of euphoria.

I started chewing at 11:53. It's 12:33 right now and I'm definately feeling the spacial shift, even with the smaller dose. I can see how this will drop in dose size as it cures. Tangwena suggested I chop off about an inch each time I open it to give me enough to play with between checks. At 0.1 to 0.35 grams per dose that seriously stretches the harvest.

How excited am I? Potentiated enough to call for smaller doses. Does it get any better than this?

 

[lazyfish]

Smoke report for my cob? I didn't actually post anythig. I think I might have done something wrong, or cobbing already dried weed doesn't really work, or maybe it's just not ready.

The high does not seem to have been affected. Not stronger or different in any way as far as I can tell. It is finals week so I don't have too much time to eat a bite and report on it. I will eat some this weekend. and give you a better idea of what mine is like.

The taste, smell and appearance have definitely changed for the better I would say.

 

[SweetSue]

Smoke report for my cob? I didn't actually post anythig. I think I might have done something wrong, or cobbing already dried weed doesn't really work, or maybe it's just not ready.

The high does not seem to have been affected. Not stronger or different in any way as far as I can tell. It is finals week so I don't have too much time to eat a bite and report on it. I will eat some this weekend. and give you a better idea of what mine is like.

The taste, smell and appearance have definitely changed for the better I would say.

I think you may find that masticating and then making tea with the dregs will enhance the buzz. I’m liking the taste.

 

[SweetSue]

@Arctic Bowl , you about convinced to give it a try?