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Great day to ya Sue - I expect lots of little micro naps throughout your days could be a very helpful thing during this transition
A considered path, but I can’t bring myself to do that. Part of me wants to start over, from scratch, and see what happens.
Candy Cane is now sold as an auto. This was an early batch that proved to be unstable. I believe Crop King stabilized the genetics. I’ve been considering growing the auto and seeing if it’ll fit the bill for her. The profiles should be reasonably close, don’t you think?
Next grow I'm trying another auto in DWC
The Blue Dream'matic Auto is insane in DWC
the high cost of auto seeds is over the first time I learn to seed one.
Lol not sure that’s really true. These autos have crazy genetics and weird stuff can result. Especially if you self one. I can’t wait to try it for myself too though.
I think feminized seeds and autos are why everyone has hermies now-a-daze. I never had a single hermie back in the day and was way less careful about light leaks and everything really.
Huh! Ok, that's an interesting thought I hadn't considered. I grow in these smaller tents, so nanners don't scare me the way they might another grower.
Is the cannabinoid development stunted if seeds are generated?
How would I even find that out?
Also, at 2’ deep they allow for placement along a single wall that won’t intrude so much on the room. I could line my bedroom wall with them, in all likelihood.
https://www.homebox.net/en/product/vista-triangle/
This landlord I’m going to be working with understands the necessity of ventilation.
I found flip flops that’ll work for me.
I just carried a stack of packing boxes from the Lowe’s
That's DWC, not the specific strain/plant, lol.
I do seem to remember that you have a few cannabis seeds at hand, lol, so I guess keeping "cuts" when you move would save you a little time at best - unless you happen to have Something Special™ growing that you either have no seeds of or have concerns about reproducing (rare phenotype, et cetera) .
<SHRUGS> It's just that a random cannabis plant is probably at least slightly more likely to survive a move than a piece of random glassware, lol.
Eh... We like you, Sue, we like you a lot. I'm sure your daughter is a fine young lady and all... But is her profile "reasonably close" to yours, lol? By that, I mean if you disappeared... NOW, would your daughter be able to instantly step in and fill all your particular roles? Because the difference in the CC you're growing and the CCA that would (as far as I know) be the closest commercial replacement is a generational one. The breeder would have had to have crossed his/her product at least one additional time - either a back-cross with the same auto-flowering line as before (which would shift the profile anywhere from a bit to quite a bit, I imagine) or through the introduction of another one altogether (which would change it).
The breeder had to ensure that there was a "double-shot" of the auto-flowering gene, because it is a recessive one. This is, of course, completely unlike hunting through a bag of candy until you find two of a certain color, lol. It's more like trying to dump two sets of bags of candy together until you find a pile that has two of that color side-by-side - and then you're stuck with whatever else is in the pile.
Okay, not exactly. But I was trying to illustrate that we cannot readily choose the exact makeup of our cannabis plants' genetics; we can only... choose the parents and depend on nature to roll the dice.
Hopefully, you'll be able to recover whatever it is that makes the strain special to you. That "magic" might appear in every (new) seed, in every new pack of seeds, in every few packs of seeds, or... Not. As the version you currently have is special to you, I hope it is pretty common in the current version of the line - and that you leave an example behind with a trusted grower, just in case you end up needing/wanting to recover it in the future.
BtW, I keep forgetting to ask, but feel this could have some importance: IF you rely on any state-run or state-administered programs (such as Medicaid), it might be wise to compare and contrast PA's and LA's versions of the things. I had actually once thought that Medicaid was Medicaid, regardless of where one lived. Then I was encouraged to see if I qualified so that I could use it to deal with some dental and vision (et cetera) issues. Turns out my state doesn't much care what condition you're in as long as you have a pulse (and if you don't, lol, you're not its problem). Need glasses? Stand closer . Can't eat because your dental pain is killing you? Buy baby food until it's actually killing you, then you can qualify under the (paraphrased) "requires a procedure to save life" requirement. My buddy, on the other hand, lives in the next state over - and he gets "preventive care," "wellness" crap, or whatever you want to call it. He even has regular dental check-ups and yearly(?) cleanings covered.
LA ought to have lots of money for state-run programs, IMHO. After all, the Port of New Orleans is at the center of the world's busiest port system, and it brings in hundreds of millions of dollars annually to the state's tax coffers (although the local government seems to favor tax credits to this entity and others related to it ) . However, I suspect that you'll notice a negative difference in the two states' programs.
In other words, take advantage of all the benefits you can while you're still in PA.
That's DWC, not the specific strain/plant, lol.
There are actually still "regular" (non-feminized) auto-flowering cannabis seeds available. Not the specific ones you're interested in, AfaIK, but lots.
I did - but I liked Asian strains .
There is something to your idea, though. Poor breeding practices, unstable (or non-stabilized) lines, allowing "selfing" in the commercial production rooms, et cetera.
I hate (unplanned) male flowers. Especially in small grows; one can ruin the entire space.
Did you stop gaining weight and eating for two when you gave birth, lol? EDIT: Whoops, that was unclear. Did you start gaining weight and eating for two when you got pregnant? Maybe your body did some rearranging of priorities.
The sole purpose for a plant is to make seeds. Seed-development becomes prioritized. So my answer would be "YES." I could make a hypothetical case for certain terpine development possibly being enhanced in some strains when a plant gets seeded, if, at some point during evolution, some strains survived/proliferated better if a mutation caused their buds to get eaten by more (and more widely-ranging) animals, thus spreading the seeds over a wider area. But cannabinoid development ordinarily (in sinsemilla) continues to the harvest (assuming a proper harvest date, lol). This is in direct conflict with seed development, IMHO; the cannabinoid development suffers.
This is the whole point of producing sinsemilla in the first place, lol. Well... That, plus the fact that finding a seed in a lit joint is annoying as <BLEEP!>, not wanting to waste resources on male plants, etc.
Use a stable strain. Have multiple grows that are in no way able to influence each other. Take, IDK, 50 cuttings from one mother plant, root them, and then pick out a smaller number of rooted clones to actually use in your experiment; the larger initial number should help ensure that you can end up with a set of rooted clones that are as close to each other in size/etc. as possible. Have one set as your "control" set; these will remain sinsemilla plants. Pollinate another set early, a third set a little later, a fourth set later still... And so on until you've run out of rooted clones.
For best results: Divide each set into two subsets. For the first subset, ensure that every variable is the same, including feed times, nutrient amounts and ratios of same, et cetera. For the second subset, tailor everything specifically for the specific plants' needs (there might be some variance between a pollinated female plant's needs and a "virginal" one's, and having the two subsets will help allow for this). Do not use plants that were produced by selfing (and non-feminized would be best, so as to remove as many factors as possible that could (conceivably) skew your results). These grows should be occur simultaneously, not sequentially (things change over time).
You could do the same thing, sort of, with an auto-flowering strain - but due to the naturally higher variance between a handful of seeds and a like number of clones, you'd want to increase your sample size dramatically; otherwise, you have no way of knowing whether or not any differences in your results were caused by differences in the plants.
You'd tie up some resources properly performing such an experiment. While the cost of electricity (and water, for that matter, over time) is not insignificant, I'd guess that your biggest drains would be in regards to time and space.
It might also be best to arrange to have samples of each subset tested post-harvest for content. Some differences are not always correctly quantifiable via "seat of the pants" testing. Out of three samples, which is strongest? Well, a and b are both pretty strong, lol. Like that. Also... I have been thinking in terms of "power" - as if there was only ONE cannabinoid in the bud and that things were determined by how much of it is present. We all know this is not the case! What if not just the amounts, but the ratios of the various cannabinoids change, too? This is... within the realm of possibility, at least, since we do not know everything about the various cannabinoinds produced by cannabis plants and, therefore, we do not know whether or not the plant might use one or more of them for something when seeds are developing (or if the ratios change due to an indirect cause provoked by the seed presence). And cannabinoids... one can lead to several, lol. What if this initial cannabinoid gets affected? Or one of the enzymes/etc. that are required for the various conversion processes?
Homebox sells two "corner tents" among its many product offerings. They're more or less triangular in shape; actually, they're five-sided, but it's just a triangle that sets in the corner of a room, and the ends of the front (where the door is) have been truncated slightly and two really skinny wall panels are used to connect the "shortened" door wall to the two angled sides. It looks like those two additional small walls were added to the basic traingle shape because, hey, they must assume that you'd stick a corner tent into a corner and, therefore, you might not be able to ventilate via the walls in the corner, so they provided the two "extra" walls that are just wide enough to have ventilation/etc. ports. If that makes any sense. These two tents are the same area, but one is taller than the other. Like many of Homebox's tents, these two have the best (PAR) reflectivity in the industry (white walls ) . I'd post an image, but the company isn't a sponsor and we do have a "comparable" sponsor. I won't post a live link, either, for the same reason.
However, since Gorilla Grow Tents does not offer this specific product type, I think I can safely post a non-live link to these two specific products:
Code:https://www.homebox.net/en/product/vista-triangle/
LOL, yeah, I'd reckon.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, not flip-flops. Those things are even more worthless than sandals, IMHO, and should be relegated to prisons and jails for the sole purpose of giving inmates something to wear from their cells to the showers and back without having to bend over to take the things off at any point during the task.
But that's just me. Some folks feel that sporks ought to only exist in prisons - and I rather like those.
Egg crates are free at the grocery store, lol (and are of decent size). Liquor stores are good places to go for boxes, too.
OtOH, I am guessing that the boxes you bought came flat and easier to carry, lol.
Everything is looking great, Sue, and congrat's and best wishes with the move! Your Gorilla is a monster and, is this that Carnival that had all the mold on the roots?:
If so, very nice recovery!!!
Huh???
TS, I felt like we sat and shared a bowl.
Thank you for the overview of breeding.
The flip-flops are marked as "a start" because I intend to replace them with better, but that can wait until I'm settled in. At the moment all I had were my walking shoes and a pair of Sketchers slip-ons about to wear through. I can't move to southern Louisanna with no footwear that let my feet breathe.
I'm gonna have to check out those Homebox tents when I have a moment.
Huh???
Right.....Pick any cannabis strain, and it'll do better in DWC than in the same size soil(ish) container. <SHRUGS> That's just DWC
think Amy might have ordered one recently, but I cannot swear to it, or (if she did) whether or not she bought one of the models with white interior walls, a corner model, et cetera. But (again, assuming she now owns one) she might be able to talk about quality and features.
Yes I did.
And I did order one with the white interior but that’s not what I got because it turned out not to be in stock (after I’d orsere and paid)
Look it’s a solid tent and sturdy, and totally non toxic
It’s light leaky.
Completely lightproof - Total-Blackout Zippers provide additional strength and light-proofing without the fuss of flaps and Velcro. Tough canvas material with an inner layer of thick, flexible, food-grade polyethylene.
What I plan to do is see if I can upgrade to their higher model - either the one I wanted in the first place, or the next step up even to their top line. Both have the par+ lining I like, and I think the top line one comes in my preferred dimension.
Oh - and the vents at the bottom have Velcro on covers but it seems a lot to ask that a grower would have to manually put these on each night to maintain light security.
So what I got was the GrowLab which is the model that’s being phased out. And the new version of this one (HomeLab?) may well have addressed these issues.
https://www.homebox-growlab.net/
The GrowLab utilizes thermal film on the interior which is highly reflective, waterproof, and extremely insulative (offering 97% thermal protection). This film is also non-toxic and won’t release any harmful gasses that can damage sensitive plants. All of the zippers used in the tent are extremely durable.
To get the most of out the plants you grow with our GrowLab tents we recommend using a vaporizer. A vaporizer is an electronic device, whichmost of them look like a power bank at first glance, that heats up your plants to your preferred temperature and releases the aromas either directly by a mouthpiece or indirectly by the use of a ballon.
The GrowLab utilizes intake/exhaust ports that allows them to adjust to fit various sizes of ducting. Drawstrings eliminate the need for duct hose clamps and make installation of ducting and fans quick and easy. The GrowLab also utilizes...
Also, I’m inexperienced indoors and don’t know if these pinpricks of light I see at the window seams (and the side seams) are a problem or not.
model of ordered and was kind of the only workable option o ce it became clear they couldn’t get me what I’d orderd (fro some months). Their upper range tents may not have these micro light issues, and maybe they’re not issues, and the newer version of this cheap range may have improved as well. And outside of those little pricks of light, the tent seems really very good and solidly built.
https://www.homebox.net/en/kontakt/
I hope that helps!
I plan to ring the supplier tomorrow and just have a talk about it and see if I have any options. They’re were really apologetic about not having the one I ordered so maybe they will help me upgrade this one.
Aus authorised retailer.through Homebox or via a third party?
Wait... GrowLab?
Oh and TS - I meant to pick this up earlier, but when Sue asked about profiles being pretty much the same or not, I’m pretty sure she was referring to the auto and the regular Candy Cane - cause she was speculating about whether the auto would do for the daughter
However, I suspect that you'll notice a negative difference in the two states' programs.
Ya know... I feel a certain sense of responsibility for this 'rolling boulder'. As such, I've tried to envision all the issues. This one I had totally not considered.
I leave it in Sue's capable hands... but wow, good catch TS!
Right, that's what I responded to. You don't just magic a line into auto-flowering, you need the recessive AF gene to be present in the seed generation, and it must "be there double" (because it is recessive). So, in effect, you are no longer selling the same strain. What you have might be (and, presumably, is) a cross of that previous thing, but it is no longer the same. Breeders aren't gene-splicers, lol, so this new thing is made in the traditional way - meaning that the source of the AF gene (or the additional one, more likely, as - an assumption again - I'm guessing it was present before, just occluded (so to speak) by the dominant non-AF gene) would have donated more than just that single piece of information to the equation.
I've done some small amount of breeding in the past (personal use only, not for seed sales). You find a real good line but there's a thing you dislike, or you wish to introduce one or more qualities from a different line. So then you set out to fix the trait you're trying to add while not losing what you liked about the line in the first place. Sometimes it's textbook, other times you're never really satisfied.
At one time, I'd have been gullible enough to believe that commercial cannabis breeders work with hundreds of examples of each thing they're working on, at minimum. But in the last few years I've realized that probably isn't the case. You don't just need room to grow the plants - you need room to keep them separated. Otherwise, your seeds will always be at least a tiny bit suspect, IMHO. So I'm guessing that a lot of breeders (probably not all of them) work with relatively small numbers of plants. IDK, though, really.
Drive=by. Pretty... How did your DOG come out? I've seen three different pheno of it. Different bud structure and colors. Looking at them last pics, BTW nice,, the buds grew to the typical point on the tip. Mine kind of crown and grow kind of round. Mine loves the calcium at transition. And droops badly at lights out for the first few weeks. Most of the hairs on mine turn dark red after 3 weeks and had a berry type smell least that's what I hear.. . You still got alot going on. You probably said but are you taking any plants with ya?
This is 420% correct!
Since you're an "Old Timer", like me, you may have already seen the post linked in my signature for The Bonsai Sultan Method: Typological Breeding In Little Space ... I did not write the article (copied/pasted from another site!), but, having limited space myself, I have become a big fan of Bonsai's in order to be able to maintain my favorite strains as mom's; and I do plan on using a scaled down version of this method (which supports hundreds of plants!) in a few months. I'm going to build a small "breeding cabinet" that will be about the same size as my little mom/clone cab.