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Not that I'm trying to push you to grow Danolo, but my first grow was in a closet that measured 33"X 13" deep and 5' high, using only CFLs I had hanging around and over the plants by cords. I pulled 4.5 ounces my first grow, with few resources, a rediculously limited space that required my removing the door and growing autos like house plants (I still use this space for my favorite strain under my favorite light) and no experience behind me at all.
We can teach you how to grow an amazing product in a small cabinet with training techniques meant to maximize the harvest. Even under the worst conditions you can typically pull at least an ounce (I frequently get less, but enjoy it all the same) and keep yourself that much further ahead.
There's much to be said for controlling the choice and the quality of the buds. Nothing you purchase will come close in quality to what you can easily grow yourself. Then there's the oft-praised joy of growing cannabis. They're unlike any other species. They become a personal part of the healing process and I suspect they feed off the energy of the cultivator and deliver just what the patient needs.
My initial goal here was simply to demonstrate how anyone could grow cannabis and keep themselves medicated. At the very least reduce med costs. The plants you'll grow yourself will be hand-chosen to produce the maximum volume of oil, and then you'll play with cultivation technique to enhance trichome development even more than genetics offers alone. Ditchweed242 just harvested an Incredible Bulk that was so loaded with trichomes that he said parts of it "were basically goo." You won't find that in a dispensary.
I know Sue...
I've been reading a lot here on updated techniques, and small spaces, and I'm confident that if I did have such a space, I could do well. But as it stands now I do not. Perhaps that will change one day, but for now, I have to buy at dispensaries, or on the street.
The single biggest issue is the smell. Both from the growing garden and from the drying, curing and extracting.
We live in a building where I'm certain the management would take a dim view of cannabis use, even if it was legal.
Thanks for your encouragement, Sue... we'll see what the future brings.
I couldn't be more pleased that you need to know the hows and whys.
Cannabis is an herbal medication. We've been raised in the time of pharmaceutical drugs, and we think in terms of instant results when we take those little pills. Those little pills that come with such devastating side effects while most often only masking symptoms.
Cannabis works from the inside out, modifying the signals throughout the system to bring your body back to homeostasis and keep it there. Most of us are deficient in the health and well-being of our Endocannabinoid systems. Cannabis relieves the performance pressure your ECS can't meet on its own until such time as your system can take charge of the process once again. This can sometimes take months. You have the charge to remain consistent in your administrations throughout, whether or not you sense the results. The important early work of rebuilding the deficient system is often something you'd have no awareness of. Have faith. It's really healing. You can't stop it from happening.
But it's important to at least attempt to keep a consistent supply coming in. Otherwise you're forcing your system to unnecessarily deal with a feast/famine reality. Think of the additional pressure that puts on the ECS.
I believe the raw extraction may be a good fit for you Sara, and once again, let me assure you, you'll come to a point where the anxiety is an irritation that strikes on occassion, instead of the presence breathing down on your neck all these years. Keep a positive vision in your mind of carefree driving. Those days are ahead. This cultivator you're speaking to will work with you to find the best mix and regimine for you. This is the type of personal oversight you need right now, and I'm pleased you'll be getting it.
If I had to hazard a guess Sara, I'd say that you're sensitive to sativas, and possibly to THC as well. Share that with your cultivator/caregiver when you have that meeting. With my daughter we had to go with a balanced ratio of an indica-dominant plant. As to the problems with euphoria, if you learn to tack, those concerns will be ancient history. I'm pretty certain your upcoming meeting will alleviate your concerns.
The anxiety can, and will, be conquered. This isn't something we hope for at all, it's something we accept as inevitable.
Thank you so much. Yet again
. I think I'm finally starting to understand the entire point of consistent, long-term use and what its purpose is. I guess it just hadn't "hit" me quite yet, but when you explained it I realized. Even if I don't look at it from the endocannabinoid system point of view (which I am, just looking more broadly), maintaining a level of calm for a period of time is going to help reset my system on probably so many levels. Meaning that the high level of stress I feel all the time is what is bringing me to the point of panic to begin with, so if calm is consistently restored, I should have fewer and fewer "break throughs." Am I understanding correctly?I will actually be doing a phone consult instead. He just let me know he had to leave town while we were planning on going, and he is able to ship (I didn't think that was legal, but it is!! Good lord, the internet is such a weird place for real information on this subject, and it's freaking me out). He said in person is obviously better, but I'd have to wait if I did.
I had another question for you - I know you keep your daughter on her regimen of 4x a day, but do you guys increase amounts temporarily if she does experience these breakthroughs?
I know that with my dog on the hemp oil we do this in high-stress situations and it works well.
Funny enough - my dog is a 7lb little-old-lady yorkie. 13 1/2 years old. She takes more of the hemp than I could manage, haha
. I just think that's hilarious.So my next step is going to be coming out to my family about my cannabis use. I honestly think that having my dog on hemp (and calling it her food her "Pot Patties" has eased the stigma around it a LOT in my family, particularly my parents. They've watched the transformation of her, and how it eases her pain and anxiety, watching her bound around like a puppy. So that should help
. Or maybe I should wait until I'm bounding around like a puppy first and then they'll just be happy that I'm happy 
. Thank you for the encouragement. I can't wait until this anxiety stops controlling my life.
(I really do run on - sorry - I think this fun
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Thank you so much. Yet again
I will actually be doing a phone consult instead. He just let me know he had to leave town while we were planning on going, and he is able to ship (I didn't think that was legal, but it is!! Good lord, the internet is such a weird place for real information on this subject, and it's freaking me out). He said in person is obviously better, but I'd have to wait if I did.
I had another question for you - I know you keep your daughter on her regimen of 4x a day, but do you guys increase amounts temporarily if she does experience these breakthroughs?
I know that with my dog on the hemp oil we do this in high-stress situations and it works well.
Funny enough - my dog is a 7lb little-old-lady yorkie. 13 1/2 years old. She takes more of the hemp than I could manage, haha
So my next step is going to be coming out to my family about my cannabis use. I honestly think that having my dog on hemp (and calling it her food her "Pot Patties" has eased the stigma around it a LOT in my family, particularly my parents. They've watched the transformation of her, and how it eases her pain and anxiety, watching her bound around like a puppy. So that should help
Thank you for the encouragement. I can't wait until this anxiety stops controlling my life.
(I really do run on - sorry - I think this fun
Take a look at my post and then talk to me about running on. Lol!The choice to lose your cannabis shame and let your family know is very time negotiable. Pick that battle carefully. Learn a little about the ECS. I've found that explaining the existence of an entire system they probably aren't aware of that monitors ALL of the other systems and then explaining how you're really just bringing in reserve troops goes a long way towards diffusing resistance.
When my daughter has breakthrough or knows she's going into a situation that'll add stress she vapes three or four inhalations before leaving the house. This has kept her from having panic attacks for months now. She also hasn't had a migraine since beginning the therapy.
The choice to lose your cannabis shame and let your family know is very time negotiable. Pick that battle carefully. Learn a little about the ECS. I've found that explaining the existence of an entire system they probably aren't aware of that monitors ALL of the other systems and then explaining how you're really just bringing in reserve troops goes a long way towards diffusing resistance.
When my daughter has breakthrough or knows she's going into a situation that'll add stress she vapes three or four inhalations before leaving the house. This has kept her from having panic attacks for months now. She also hasn't had a migraine since beginning the therapy.
So good to know. Thank you. I think when the timing is right, it might not be so weird. They are actually pretty darn open-minded when things are real, around them.
Can you point me to a good place to start reading on the system? Something comprehensive but kind of basic?
Also - seeing my post just now with all those full-toothed maniacal smiles made me laugh out loud. I missed that it looked like that when I posted
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So good to know. Thank you. I think when the timing is right, it might not be so weird. They are actually pretty darn open-minded when things are real, around them.
Can you point me to a good place to start reading on the system? Something comprehensive but kind of basic?
Also - seeing my post just now with all those full-toothed maniacal smiles made me laugh out loud. I missed that it looked like that when I posted
Haha! Every once in a while I'll put up a post with more laughing emoticons than should have been allowed. Lol! The reality is I truly laugh a lot. Here's a link to my post on the ECS. It's basic and easy to digest. It's a good starting point and may be enough to give you the rudimentary understanding you'll need when you begin explaining.
The Endocannabinoid System: a quick overview
Thank you
My order is placed. I am getting an oil as well as topical for my pain. Luckily, SweetSue, you and he see eye to eye on it all. Because the raw THC is so incredibly different, he starts most people on approximately 1:1 ratio. He was saying that people can take in about 60x the amount of THC raw than heat-processed (I think he was using "activated" as his word). It's fascinating. He made it very clear, as you do, that this is healing from the bottom and everyone will react differently, not to be scared by sensations, and the healing will happen over time. I don't remember the conversation too well - I've become too accustomed to retaining information through reading - weird how we adapt, isn't it? But he said a lot of great things that I wish I could remember.
I started the hemp oil again yesterday and will stay on it until I get my order. I'm not sure how smart it is, but I really want to compare the difference in how I feel between the two things. It should be here right on time as it's that time of the month already!
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Hi Sara, good to hear things are moving forward for you, (and your dog too, ) You can run on all you want here. All medicine should be this much fun! (I meant the learning part, not the other part Sue. )
I don't see what's so maniacal about that smile. Everybody seems to do it around Sue's place. They also give great hugs as you probably noticed. So here's one for you and one for Sue and one for your dog too . 
) You can run on all you want here. All medicine should be this much fun! (I meant the learning part, not the other part Sue. )I don't see what's so maniacal about that smile. Everybody seems to do it around Sue's place. They also give great hugs as you probably noticed. So here's one for you
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Hi Sara, good to hear things are moving forward for you, (and your dog too,
I don't see what's so maniacal about that smile. Everybody seems to do it around Sue's place. They also give great hugs as you probably noticed. So here's one for you
You sweet man.....
Hi Sara, good to hear things are moving forward for you, (and your dog too,
I don't see what's so maniacal about that smile. Everybody seems to do it around Sue's place. They also give great hugs as you probably noticed. So here's one for you
That is so sweet!! Thank you
I'm just excited about it all. You guys help make it fun. And yes - Sue knows how to make a happy, smiley loving space. ... My smiles didn't come out. I must try again....
That's better.
So I got my shipment already! I mean, it's just across the water, but still.
I took my first dose of the oil about 2 1/2 hours ago. I am starting with 1 spray at a time, except the pump was new, obviously, so I don't think I got a full spray Anyway, I'm feeling pleasantly sleepy and relaxed. It isn't the same as the hemp CBD. No heart rate issue. And I don't feel the heaviness/grogginess that I feel with the hemp even though I do feel sleepy. This feels more "right" so far.
I'll get to see in a few days how it does with menstrual pain.
I have to say - I like the taste of the hemp more. The cannabis is more mellow, but the hemp has a bite that I really like. All these years that I've open a capsule on my dog's food, I just love the smell and it even makes me salivate. Which is probably very weird
I took my first dose of the oil about 2 1/2 hours ago. I am starting with 1 spray at a time, except the pump was new, obviously, so I don't think I got a full spray
Anyway, I'm feeling pleasantly sleepy and relaxed. It isn't the same as the hemp CBD. No heart rate issue. And I don't feel the heaviness/grogginess that I feel with the hemp even though I do feel sleepy. This feels more "right" so far. I'll get to see in a few days how it does with menstrual pain.
I have to say - I like the taste of the hemp more. The cannabis is more mellow, but the hemp has a bite that I really like. All these years that I've open a capsule on my dog's food, I just love the smell and it even makes me salivate. Which is probably very weird
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So I got my shipment already! I mean, it's just across the water, but still.
I took my first dose of the oil about 2 1/2 hours ago. I am starting with 1 spray at a time, except the pump was new, obviously, so I don't think I got a full spray
I'll get to see in a few days how it does with menstrual pain.
I have to say - I like the taste of the hemp more. The cannabis is more mellow, but the hemp has a bite that I really like. All these years that I've open a capsule on my dog's food, I just love the smell and it even makes me salivate. Which is probably very weird
Hahaha! Ahhhh.... You have the most delightful sense of humor Sara.
I'm thrilled that you have the oil so quickly. Good to hear, and excellent results so far. I'm most encouraged that the heart rate issue isn't a concern. I know how disconcerting that can be.
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i saw coconut oil in the store today so i bought some to try and make oil
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The best coconut oil I have found is the Kirkland Organic Virgin from Costco. It is about $16 for 84oz. It also has a great smell and flavor!!!
Apparently, I get to see immediately how the oil is for menstrual pain. So... I was doing good last night - up until right after I posted here. Then I got very emotional, cried - sobbed - for at least 30 minutes and then had uncontrollable shakes and a little wooziness for over two hours. Then I was fine when I went to bed, but a little awake. I slept fine after awhile, though.
I mean, is this a thing? Is it possible from the cannabis? Or do I need to just chalk this up as something else weird that happened? I'll say that it must be a testament to how it works that all the time I was shaking I did NOT have a panic attack - and normally a feeling like that would do it immediately for me. I can easily say the sobbing was hormonal. But the shakes were not that I'm aware of. But who knows?
I'm sorry if I'm oversharing - just trying to actually get through this. This is normally where I'd get scared and stop taking it for awhile. But I just took my 2nd dose. Going to see this through until I'm better, darnit.
I mean, is this a thing? Is it possible from the cannabis? Or do I need to just chalk this up as something else weird that happened? I'll say that it must be a testament to how it works that all the time I was shaking I did NOT have a panic attack - and normally a feeling like that would do it immediately for me. I can easily say the sobbing was hormonal. But the shakes were not that I'm aware of. But who knows?
I'm sorry if I'm oversharing - just trying to actually get through this. This is normally where I'd get scared and stop taking it for awhile. But I just took my 2nd dose. Going to see this through until I'm better, darnit.
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It's not oversharing Sara. If we're not bold enough to share the details then how can we learn through this forum? Thank you for your courage.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the oil you're using was made with a sativa. Why you ask?
The emotional overdrive is a hallmark of the sativa influence. I didn't figure this out for months. Lol! The poor guys on site - I was an emotional mess. Hahaha! You'll be fine. If it continues, I'd get in touch with your caregiver and let him know. A little tweaking of the formulation and he can quickly set things aright. Your body may adjust, so give it a couple days. I'm impressed to hear that even during the episode you didn't understand you didn't slip into panic. It's fascinated both my daughter and I how effective the cannabis oils are at keeping the mental and emotional confusion at bay.
Can you contact the caregiver? It may be you just need to reduce the dose until your body adjusts to cannabis as a therapy.
It's not oversharing Sara. If we're not bold enough to share the details then how can we learn through this forum? Thank you for your courage.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the oil you're using was made with a sativa. Why you ask?
You'll be fine. If it continues, I'd get in touch with your caregiver and let him know. A little tweaking of the formulation and he can quickly set things aright. Your body may adjust, so give it a couple days. I'm impressed to hear that even during the episode you didn't understand you didn't slip into panic. It's fascinated both my daughter and I how effective the cannabis oils are at keeping the mental and emotional confusion at bay.
Can you contact the caregiver? It may be you just need to reduce the dose until your body adjusts to cannabis as a therapy.
Thank you again, Susan. Truly, you have no idea how much I appreciate the help. I thought he had sent along info about the strain and batch, but I'm not finding it. The emotional outburst was totally unexpected - until this morning when, um, I was surprised
So, THAT part could very well be the usual thing. But the shakes/vibrations are different. I am now having very slight vibration feelings - but it isn't necessarily bad. I just feel like I'm slightly vibrating all over. Sort of like what I had when I accidentally took several drops of hemp that one night and my left leg was vibrating. He made it very clear to me that I shouldn't be scared of anything in the beginning - any sensations. So I'm trying to be more level-headed than normal
However, yes. I absolutely can contact him. He's been very good about being available. So I think later today when I've had this dose in me for a few hours, I'm going to contact him and let him know what I'm feeling. I think I'm going to find a dropper bottle and put my oil in there. I prefer the drops - having more control that way. The sprayer doesn't seem to be consistent from use to use. I don't have a dishwasher - would rubbing alcohol be a good way to extra sanitize the bottle?
His take on it when we talked was very interesting - he said that for the first while, whatever you feel is whatever you need to feel for the healing. That's when he told me not to be scared. My anxiety has just made me afraid to experience anything different in my body. That was one of the reasons I stuck with Lorazepam so long - nothing made me feel weird (except sometimes a heart rate increase for the first few minutes) just relief. Interestingly, my mother and aunt both have exactly the same sort of anxiety. One "off" feeling in the body and they are done for. We are SO weird!
I'm super impressed I didn't panic, either. I mean, that is exactly what I wanted and needed. Just to get through the other stuff.My partner has been making hilarious cracks all week about using pot, including having the munchies. But, I couldn't finish my dinner OR my cupcake that I'd been dying to have all week. This morning, I couldn't eat half of my breakfast, either. So, that'll show him
Anyway - as long as I'm reassured by you and by him that no matter what I am feeling I AM NOT GOING TO DIE then I'm going to get through this.
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Thank you again, Susan. Truly, you have no idea how much I appreciate the help. I thought he had sent along info about the strain and batch, but I'm not finding it. The emotional outburst was totally unexpected - until this morning when, um, I was surprised
He made it very clear to me that I shouldn't be scared of anything in the beginning - any sensations. So I'm trying to be more level-headed than normal
However, yes. I absolutely can contact him. He's been very good about being available. So I think later today when I've had this dose in me for a few hours, I'm going to contact him and let him know what I'm feeling. I think I'm going to find a dropper bottle and put my oil in there. I prefer the drops - having more control that way. The sprayer doesn't seem to be consistent from use to use. I don't have a dishwasher - would rubbing alcohol be a good way to extra sanitize the bottle?
His take on it when we talked was very interesting - he said that for the first while, whatever you feel is whatever you need to feel for the healing. That's when he told me not to be scared. My anxiety has just made me afraid to experience anything different in my body. That was one of the reasons I stuck with Lorazepam so long - nothing made me feel weird (except sometimes a heart rate increase for the first few minutes) just relief. Interestingly, my mother and aunt both have exactly the same sort of anxiety. One "off" feeling in the body and they are done for. We are SO weird!
My partner has been making hilarious cracks all week about using pot, including having the munchies. But, I couldn't finish my dinner OR my cupcake that I'd been dying to have all week. This morning, I couldn't eat half of my breakfast, either. So, that'll show him
Anyway - as long as I'm reassured by you and by him that no matter what I am feeling I AM NOT GOING TO DIE then I'm going to get through this.
I assure you Sara, you won't die from it, and thank you again for sharing so much. I like his explaination to you concerning the anxiety. You taught me some valuable points in that post. Now I'm certain the meds are sativa-dominant. Appetite suppression is another of the sativa hallmarks. For a while there, when I had a lot of Carnival to indulge in, I had to remind myself to eat. Lol!
The low-level vibration is THC at work. Lucky you.
This is one of my indicators that the strain I'm using is powerful enough to drive my overcharged metabolism. I keep a bottle of ISO, over 90%, on hand to sterilize my bottles. Works like a dream. You could get away with the 70%, but I wouldn't use the 50/50 mix.
Now I'm certain the meds are sativa-dominant. Appetite suppression is another of the sativa hallmarks. For a while there, when I had a lot of Carnival to indulge in, I had to remind myself to eat. Lol!
The low-level vibration is THC at work. Lucky you.
I keep a bottle of ISO, over 90%, on hand to sterilize my bottles. Works like a dream. You could get away with the 70%, but I wouldn't use the 50/50 mix.
That is so interesting!! If the sativa does repress the appetite a bit, I will be happy. My appetite has been haywire and out of control for the last 2 years. And when I get anxious, I have a compulsion to eat (unlike most people I know).
So the THC causes those vibrations, huh? Again, I'm fascinated. Do you know what it's doing?
Even my scalp is - the feeling that my hair is standing up
It kind of tickles when it happens. So whatever it's doing, it's doing it everywhere 